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hightor
 
  4  
Thu 7 Jan, 2021 05:27 am
@blatham,
There was one great clip of Pence denying the Georgia senators' petition because the senators who signed on withdrew their support. But you're right, they performance of the entire party has been abysmal since the beginning of the Trump regime. There were a few exceptions — Flake comes to mind — but even the ones like Sasse were awfully quiet for an awfully long time. Best thing would be for the Dems to pass voting rights legislation and make sure the Republicans never take national power again.

Something has got to be done about the amount of firepower these idiots have access to...time to repeal/rewrite the Second Amendment.
lmur
 
  3  
Thu 7 Jan, 2021 05:50 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

an individual wrote:
Coldjoint was suspended for a year for allegedly violating the rule against soapboxing.


Aw shucks. Such bad timing.




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hightor
 
  3  
Thu 7 Jan, 2021 05:58 am
@hightor,
someone wrote:
Something has got to be done about the amount of firepower these idiots have access to...time to repeal/rewrite the Second Amendment.

This person might recall that, prior to the post '70 politicization of the NRA, the firearms community managed to flourish very well without assault-style weapons, extended clips, bump stocks, etc. A repeal won't be necessary when the Sotomayor Court reinterprets the wording of the anachronistic amendment in 2030.
hightor
 
  3  
Thu 7 Jan, 2021 06:02 am
a noted dissembler wrote:

Conservatives are capable of communicating with each other outside of a2k.

There is email for example. And PMs on rival messageboards.

Produce the email or PM then. Liberals will accept a screenshot. Pics or it didn't happen.
Region Philbis
 
  2  
Thu 7 Jan, 2021 06:07 am

the trespassing dipshits were too stupid to wear masks.

not to protect themselves and others from covid, but to conceal their identities.

facial recognition software will find them and they will be arrested...
revelette3
 
  3  
Thu 7 Jan, 2021 06:12 am
@Region Philbis,
I am not even sure they were aware they were committing a crime. How else to explain their being proud of breaking into the capitol?

Quote:
West Virginia Delegate Derrick Evans Films Self Breaking Into Capitol With Rioters

Derrick Evans, a newly elected Republican member of the West Virginia House of Delegates, numbered among the right-wing rioters who violently broke into the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday afternoon, shown in a video he posted to social media.

In the now-deleted video, Evans can be heard encouraging the crush of people around him to push into the building, which had been placed on lockdown after supporters of President Donald Trump began to clash with police outside.

At one point, Evans leads the crowd in a chant of “Trump!”

Once the rioters breach the Capitol, Evans yells, “They’re in! They’re in! They’re in!”

He then encourages the group to move into the building and can be heard screaming: “We’re in! We’re in! We’re in! We’re in! Derrick Evans is in the Capitol!”

“Keep it moving, baby!” he yells in the video he posted.

Evans turns the camera around at certain points, making himself clearly visible amid the sea of rioters in red “Make America great again” hats, carrying “Trump is my president” flags and wearing conspiracy theory garb.

“Who thought this was gonna happen today?” he says.

In a statement subsequently posted to Facebook, Evans refused to apologize for obviously participating in the break-in. Instead, he claimed, bizarrely, that he was a member of the media.


https://www.huffpost.com/entry/derrick-evans-capitol-riots-video_n_5ff636b6c5b61a92a8bf2e02
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snood
 
  0  
Thu 7 Jan, 2021 06:21 am
@Region Philbis,
Region Philbis wrote:


the trespassing dipshits were too stupid to wear masks.

not to protect themselves and others from covid, but to conceal their identities.

facial recognition software will find them and they will be arrested...


I’m sorry, and all due respect, but you have no factual basis for believing that these people will be zealously persued or prosecuted. If law enforcement was at all interested in, and motivated by protecting the institution that was desecrated, or the people who were terrorized, they could have damn well brought an end to that disgraceful conflagration as it happened.

There is a whole different mindset applied by the police when the offenders are good ole white people. There were police opening the barricades. High-fiving the rioters. Taking selfies.

Fifty two people were arrested, but most were allowed to just walk peacefully away.

“They will find them, and they will be arrested.”
Really?

That level of trust and confidence in our law enforcement agencies is just not credible, from where I’m standing.
Region Philbis
 
  1  
Thu 7 Jan, 2021 06:25 am
@snood,

i hope you're wrong.

these traitors need to be held accountable...
revelette3
 
  2  
Thu 7 Jan, 2021 06:29 am
@snood,
I think there surely must have been some kind of plan, betrayers in the security agencies around the capitol somewhere along the line to have allowed that happen. There wasn't enough police there that I could see. It wasn't until finally the national guard was called in that it looked like they were interested in securing the building. I mean we all seen that lone officer trying to keep those rioters away with a little stick.
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Region Philbis
 
  1  
Thu 7 Jan, 2021 06:30 am
Quote:
Trump's deputy national security adviser Matt Pottinger resigned Wednesday afternoon
in response to Trump's reaction to a mob of his supporters breaching the US Capitol.

Several of Trump's top national security aides -- including national security adviser
Robert O'Brien -- are considering resigning in the wake of his response to a day of chaos
and violence...
(cnn)
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izzythepush
 
  2  
Thu 7 Jan, 2021 06:32 am
@Region Philbis,
They do, but I fear Snood may be right. If the protesters had been black they wouldn’t have made it within a mile of the building.
snood
 
  3  
Thu 7 Jan, 2021 06:37 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

They do, but I fear Snood may be right. If the protesters had been black they wouldn’t have made it within a mile of the building.


And not only that, but they are claiming that they had no way of knowing this would happen. They are saying that they were “understandably” overwhelmed.

Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder could have seen the potential for this. Trump and his cronies have been crowing about “watch out for January 6th” for at least a month.

It’s not that they were unprepared. They were well-prepared... to do NOTHING.
farmerman
 
  3  
Thu 7 Jan, 2021 06:38 am
@izzythepush,
At least those officers need to be rounded up and charged with dereliction of duty. If they abetted the thug army, then they need to be relieved of duty, tried and punished.
revelette3
 
  2  
Thu 7 Jan, 2021 06:41 am
@farmerman,
I agree, also, who knows how far we were betrayed yesterday in our country. Perhaps there was an order somewhere to stand down?
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snood
 
  4  
Thu 7 Jan, 2021 06:44 am
General Barry McCaffrey, this morning on Morning Joe:

Quote:
If you break into the Pentagon, they will use lethal force to stop you.
If you surge a mob into the White House, they will shoot to kill.
If you try to break into Buckingham Palace, you will be killed.
This was an astonishing dereliction of duty.
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Region Philbis
 
  2  
Thu 7 Jan, 2021 06:45 am

https://iili.io/K4ZNMx.jpg
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izzythepush
 
  3  
Thu 7 Jan, 2021 06:47 am
@snood,
The BBC website has an account by journalist Jamie Stiehm, she was in the chamber when it was attacked.

I can’t post links but this is what she said,

“There was a sense of, “nobody’s in charge here, the Capitol police have lost control of the building, anything can happen.””
Region Philbis
 
  1  
Thu 7 Jan, 2021 07:00 am
Quote:
‘I can’t stay here’ — Mick Mulvaney resigns

Trump’s former chief of staff and current special envoy to Northern Ireland said
Thursday that he’s resigning from his diplomatic post.

“I called [Secretary of State] Mike Pompeo last night to let him know I was resigning
from that. I can’t do it. I can’t stay,” Mick Mulvaney told CNBC in an exclusive interview.

“Those who choose to stay, and I have talked with some of them, are choosing to stay
because they’re worried the president might put someone worse in,” Mulvaney added.
(cnbc)
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blatham
 
  2  
Thu 7 Jan, 2021 07:01 am
Quote:
GOP Rep. Mace: Trump's legacy 'wiped out' by Capitol riot

As for the president, “everything that he’s worked for ... all of that — his entire legacy — was wiped out yesterday,” she added.
Politico

Pretty much the same thing happened to Charlie Manson after that one unfortunate incident.
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hingehead
 
  2  
Thu 7 Jan, 2021 07:08 am
@blatham,
I had to read the second paragraph to be absolutely sure you were being sarcastic in the first paragraph.
 

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