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oristarA
 
  2  
Wed 16 Dec, 2020 10:23 am
@snood,
Please be practical. McConnell broke the ice which may help Biden reunite the nation. See what McConnell got by his action? He's right now in a political windstorm:

Quote:
MAGA turns on Mitch: Trump says 'people are angry' after allies including Michael Flynn slammed the GOP Senate majority leader for 'caving to the mob and China' by recognizing Biden as president-elect
Trump loyalists were furious after McConnell congratulated Biden on Tuesday
Top allies accused Senate majority leader of selling out the party's leader
MAGA die-hards called McConnell a 'RINO' (Republican in name only) and even a secret Chinese agent
McConnell recognized Biden's win after Electoral College vote on Monday

Source



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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Wed 16 Dec, 2020 11:26 am
https://pjmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Screen-Shot-2020-12-15-at-5.14.52-PM-1110x396.png
Notice there is no surge in the death rate. Surely during a pandemic there would be.

Another lie just like the phony election. People are all kinds of stupid.

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/stacey-lennox/2020/12/15/have-covid-19-lockdowns-saved-any-lives-lets-take-a-look-at-federal-data-n1212997
Brand X
 
  2  
Wed 16 Dec, 2020 11:37 am
Jan Wolfe
@JanNWolfe
·
1h
It finally happened: Sidney Powell's opposing counsel want her punished for her "frivolous" claims. Lawyers for the City of Detroit say a judge needs to fine Powell and refer her for disciplinary proceedings.
BillW
 
  1  
Wed 16 Dec, 2020 11:47 am
@Brand X,
Brand X wrote:

Jan Wolfe
@JanNWolfe
·
1h
It finally happened: Sidney Powell's opposing counsel want her punished for her "frivolous" claims. Lawyers for the City of Detroit say a judge needs to fine Powell and refer her for disciplinary proceedings.

Unfortunately, it is not likely. I, unfortunately, can't remember why it probably won't happen here!

BTW, it should be a list of attorneys, including Rudy and any other attorney who presented a case of voter fraud in a trial, then under Judge questioning, admitted that they had no evidence of fraud. This is prima facie evidence of a shame trial!

Oh, a few State Attorney Generals and members of Congress s/b included too!
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Wed 16 Dec, 2020 11:47 am
@Brand X,
Brand X wrote:

Jan Wolfe
@JanNWolfe
·
1h
It finally happened: Sidney Powell's opposing counsel want her punished for her "frivolous" claims. Lawyers for the City of Detroit say a judge needs to fine Powell and refer her for disciplinary proceedings.

Opposing lawyers are not law enforcement. And Powells claims have a right to be aired.
BillW
 
  2  
Wed 16 Dec, 2020 12:00 pm
@Brand X,
Brand X wrote:

Jan Wolfe
@JanNWolfe

1h
It finally happened: Sidney Powell's opposing counsel want her punished for her "frivolous" claims. Lawyers for the City of Detroit say a judge needs to fine Powell and refer her for disciplinary proceedings.


Duh on me, that nasty thing called politics. Same reason SCOTUS and some other Judges didn't what to make conclusions, just slap theRump's team on the face:
Quote:
DISCIPLINE UNLIKELY
Despite these apparent ethical lapses, Faughnan said he did not expect state grievance committees to take action against Giuliani and Powell.

Faughnan said investigators have limited resources, and will focus on more straightforward violations such as lawyers who steal from clients.

Faughnan said investigators would also be wary of disciplining lawyers when its about politics.

“When it is a very politically charged case, you know the first line of defense is going to be ‘you are only doing this to us because of our politics,’” said Faughnan.

Sanctions imposed by judges are more possible, Faughnan said, but still unlikely. Sanctions are typically requested by opposing counsel, who may decide the fight is not worth the time and energy, he said.

“Is a court going to take it upon itself to issue any sort of sanction in these circumstances? They might but it seems unlikely,” he said.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-lawyers-sanction-explain/explainer-can-trumps-lawyers-be-disciplined-for-making-false-claims-idUSKBN2851FW

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Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Wed 16 Dec, 2020 02:12 pm
Trump's Twitter account was hacked, Dutch ministry affirms
Quote:
Public prosecutor states Victor Gevers did access US president’s site but as ethical hacker faces no charges

Dutch prosecutors have confirmed that Donald Trump’s Twitter account was hacked in October despite denials from Washington and the company, but said the “ethical hacker” would not face charges.

The hacker, named as Victor Gevers, broke into Trump’s account @realDonaldTrump on 16 October by guessing the US president’s password, Dutch media reports said.

Both the White House and Twitter strenuously denied reports that the account had been hacked.

Gevers, 44, disclosed the hack immediately, saying the password he guessed was “maga2020!”, referring to the Trump slogan “Make America Great Again”.

The public prosecutor’s office (Openbaar Ministerie) said: “We believe the hacker has actually penetrated Trump’s Twitter account, but has met the criteria that have been developed in case law to go free as an ethical hacker.”

It added that hacking was a criminal offence in the Netherlands. But it said that “special circumstances”, also referred to in practice as “responsible disclosure”, could stop prosecutors from taking steps.

Dutch prosecutors made their findings based on an investigation by the police specialist cyber unit, called Team High-tech Crime.

“Both the hacker and the American authorities have been informed of the outcome of the investigation,” prosecutors said.


Press release (in Dutch)
Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Wed 16 Dec, 2020 02:42 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
What's about the Russia’s cyberattack? That broad Russian espionage attack on the United States government and private companies was underway since spring, detected by the private sector only a few weeks ago, but the National Security Agency has been largely silent and Trump has twittered nothing.
Only Nate Blumenthal's (Deputy Assistant Secretary for Counterterrorism and Threat Prevention) message on Twitter was the first official acknowledgment that Russia was behind the intrusion.
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vikorr
 
  2  
Wed 16 Dec, 2020 03:40 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
Opposing lawyers are not law enforcement. And Powells claims have a right to be aired.
Apparently Texas has laws against vexatious law suits.

It appears simpler in Australia - if a person sues you with little grounds - the court can award costs against the litigant (so they pay for both sets of lawyers). The decision is as far as I know, made at the end of the court case.
vikorr
 
  2  
Wed 16 Dec, 2020 04:24 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
Notice there is no surge in the death rate. Surely during a pandemic there would be.
You do know the CDC stats have quite a bit of lag time right? And similar arguments made earilier in the year (regarding the total death rate), after the updates were found to be false?
revelette3
 
  2  
Wed 16 Dec, 2020 04:34 pm
Stimulus checks now part of relief deal as Congress finalizes negotiations
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farmerman
 
  2  
Wed 16 Dec, 2020 04:41 pm
@vikorr,
we have something similar but , besides costs it includes "treble damages"
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BillW
 
  1  
Wed 16 Dec, 2020 04:45 pm
@vikorr,
vikorr wrote:

Quote:
Notice there is no surge in the death rate. Surely during a pandemic there would be.
You do know the CDC stats have quite a bit of lag time right? And similar arguments made earilier in the year (regarding the total death rate), after the updates were found to be false?

His statement is total BS, liar extra ordinaire. Deaths in the US have surged to 3,000+ a day currently (1.1 annualized). The highest it has ever been since theRump Virus struck and neglected by the current administration. It is sad but true. The admin (especially on top) have decided that the majority of people who die are irrelevant and should die anyways for the benefit(?). They are majority black, old and have other medical problems - you know, the throw always all societies are always trying to get rid of (sic).
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Wed 16 Dec, 2020 05:10 pm
Quote:

The Epoch Times calls on Trump to take decisive action to save the republic by invoking the Insurrection Act

Trump needs to do this.

Quote:
That’s the conclusion of The Epoch Times’ editorial board earlier this week.

“The 2020 presidential election is unlike any that came before and requires unprecedented measures to protect it, our republic, and our future,” the editorial begins.

“Both the degree and the scale of voter fraud were unprecedented. In swing states, President Donald Trump had large leads on election night. Then, late that night, counting was stopped and election observers were ushered out. And then, huge, statistically impossible vote dumps occurred, giving Joe Biden the lead,” it continued.

Noting that this extremely unusual and highly suspect pattern of vote surges occurred only in swing states Biden needed to win (to make everything look on the level), the editorial board added that it all “points to a coordinated effort to steal the election.”

The plan no doubt involved the suspect Dominion Voting System machines which have become the center of attention after attorney Sidney Powell, with the help of forensic IT experts and eyewitnesses who developed the software used by the company, exposed how they can actually steal votes while hiding any trace of the theft.

But it’s not just the testimony regarding the machines. The editorial board pointed to “a thousand sworn affidavits by election observers and others now attest to various forms of illegal ballot harvesting and election irregularities.”

There are even reports that foreign influence may have undermined our election as well.


“Trump has said our election system was the focus of a ‘coordinated assault and siege,’” the board wrote. “As a consequence, our form of government is at risk. If an election can be won through such dishonest means as were used in 2020, then one can expect the next election to be won in the same manner. The American people will effectively lose their right to vote.”

There’s no doubt that is exactly true; if, in fact, there was a coordinated effort to steal this election, that amounts to subversion, the board argued.

And we would add another “s” word: “Sedition.”


Either way, both represent an assault on our republic that cannot and must not go unanswered.

https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-12-16-trump-action-save-republic-insurrection-act.html
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Wed 16 Dec, 2020 05:11 pm
@BillW,
Quote:
Deaths in the US have surged to 3,000+ a day currently

Prove it.
BillW
 
  1  
Wed 16 Dec, 2020 05:14 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Quote:
Deaths in the US have surged to 3,000+ a day currently

Prove it.

Bite me a*h, just open your lying nasty eyes! Oh, sorry - you are blind to truth!
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Wed 16 Dec, 2020 05:22 pm
Quote:
Rand Paul: Fraud happened, presidential election 'stolen'

Looking for a Senator to challenge electoral votes? Looks like we have one.

Quote:
'The courts haven't decided the facts. They never looked at the facts'

https://www.wnd.com/2020/12/rand-paul-fraud-happened-presidential-election-stolen/
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Wed 16 Dec, 2020 05:23 pm
@BillW,
BillW wrote:

coldjoint wrote:

Quote:
Deaths in the US have surged to 3,000+ a day currently

Prove it.

Bite me a*h, just open your lying nasty eyes! Oh, sorry - you are blind to truth!

So you cannot prove it. Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Rebelofnj
 
  3  
Wed 16 Dec, 2020 05:32 pm
@coldjoint,
There is also this part that will be difficult to overcome for those wanting to toss allegedly fraudulent votes:
Quote:
Once an objection is heard from a member of each house of Congress, senators and representatives will retreat to their chambers on opposite sides of the Capitol for a two-hour debate and then a vote on whether to disqualify a state’s votes. Both the Democratic-controlled House and Republican-controlled Senate would have to agree to toss out a state’s electoral votes


As I said before, The House under Pelosi and The Senate under McConnell will most likely not toss out any votes.
BillW
 
  2  
Wed 16 Dec, 2020 05:34 pm
@Rebelofnj,
Good stuff but beyond her comprehension (for cj, this means your ability to understand😖)!
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