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coluber2001
 
  4  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 09:53 pm
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/what-trump-has-done-to-america/ar-BB1bXacw

The Atlantic

What Trump Has Done to America

Jonathan Rauch


The Supreme Court slammed the door on President Donald Trump’s preposterous lawsuits. State legislators ignored his pressure to countermand the voters. The Electoral College cast a majority of its votes for President-elect Joe Biden. Trump’s efforts to usurp the presidency have failed. That is cause for relief.

But not too much relief. No one who understands the law believed that Trump and his supporters and enablers stood more than a minuscule chance of overturning the election. In the course of failing to usurp the presidency, however, Trump succeeded at usurping the Republican Party. On that front, his accomplishments since November 3 have been impressive. With his legal challenges safely out of the way, now is a good moment to take stock.

Trump has consolidated antidemocratic forces’ control of the Republican Party

Many Republicans still believe in democratic norms such as the rule of law, the centrality of truth, the peaceful transfer of power, and the legitimacy of the opposition party. But Trump is not among those Republicans, and he has won astonishing acquiescence and support from his party as he has set about trashing democratic norms and principles. In The Atlantic three years ago, Benjamin Wittes and I warned that the Republican Party, as an institution, had become a danger to the rule of law and the integrity of our democracy. Thereafter, Trump only escalated his assaults on democratic norms.

Now, however, he has pushed even deeper into illiberal territory, spuriously attacking the legitimacy of the election. In doing so, he has won the support of many of the party’s federal officeholders (including a majority of House Republicans) and the silence of the large majority of the rest. Just a handful of Republican senators, Mitt Romney most impressively, have found the backbone to call him out.

America’s constitutional order, the political scientist Gregory Weiner argues, depends on a style of politics that the conservative political philosopher Michael Oakeshott called “nomocratic.” Nomocratic regimes hold themselves accountable to public processes (such as voting) whose outcome no one can be sure of in advance. They commit themselves to the rule of law and democratic decision making, even if the other side wins. Teleocratic politics, by contrast, is accountable to particular outcomes. Legitimacy comes not from following the agreed-upon rules but from obtaining the desired result. In other words, the election is valid—provided our side wins.

Trump has placed himself explicitly in the teleocratic camp. Teleocracy is incompatible with democracy and the rule of law; Trump’s position would once have horrified Republicans. Now, by acquiescing to Trump, they have made it their de facto creed. By contrast, although prominent Democrats questioned the legitimacy of Trump’s election in 2016 and George W. Bush’s in 2000, Democratic leaders generally adhere to nomocratic tenets, and none has come remotely as unmoored from them as Trump has.

The country now has not just two political parties but two political regimes, one nomocratic and the other teleocratic, cohabiting but incompatible. The closest modern parallel might be the South in the days of Jim Crow. Ostensibly, the South was part of American democracy, but in reality it was a separate polity—undemocratic because so many voices and voters were excluded, teleocratic because its permissible outcomes were bounded by white supremacy.

That arrangement, of course, proved not only unfair but unsustainable. Trump’s reorientation of the GOP as the party whose guiding principle is “Heads we win, tails you lose” is likewise unfair and unsustainable. With so few national Republicans willing to renounce Trump’s electoral Calvinball, it is hard to avoid concluding, as the political historian Geoffrey Kabaservice told The Atlantic’s Ronald Brownstein, that the Republican Party, “without acknowledging or realizing it, has become an antidemocratic force.”

Trump has consolidated his role as the Republican Party’s godfather
Plenty of Republicans, both in politics and on the street, view Trump and his policies with distaste. But, as the saying goes, when you have them by the—well, let’s say by certain soft parts of their anatomy—their hearts and minds will follow.

Trump’s leverage is in the Republican primaries. In most congressional districts, a single tweet from the president can make life difficult for a Republican who annoys him. A Trump denunciation can bring forth one or more primary challengers. An endorsement can make the difference between winning and losing, or between winning comfortably and squeaking through. Trump’s demands and proclamations influence who runs for office, how they run, and how they behave in office.

Just how much influence Trump will wield as a private citizen remains to be seen, but even in the aftermath of his loss, Republicans remain frightened of him. The support of House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy for Trump’s efforts to overturn the election and the long silence of Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell in the face of Trump’s depredations speak loudly. It seems fair to assume that most Republican candidates for office in 2022, and probably also in 2024, will hesitate to cross him, and many will feel the need to seek his endorsement and otherwise kiss his ring. Meanwhile, Trump’s talk of a 2024 presidential bid will stymie the emergence of presidential contenders. And so the party’s evolution past Trumpism will be at least impeded, and possibly blocked altogether.

Trump has made Russian-style disinformation a central feature of U.S. politics

Propaganda experts have identified a powerful technique they call the “fire hose of falsehood.” Perfected by the Russians, this information-warfare method, according to researchers at the Rand Corporation, is marked by “high numbers of channels and messages and a shameless willingness to disseminate partial truths or outright fictions.” By pumping out every manner of lie, half-truth, and conspiracy theory through every available channel, a propagandist can cause bewilderment and cynicism as the public concludes that anything might or might not be true and that no one can be trusted. This bewilderment and cynicism, in turn, make the public more receptive to demagogues, dictators, and kleptocrats.

Even that old KGB hand Vladimir Putin has cause to admire Trump’s achievement. Until Trump, no American politician had ever imagined running a fire-hose-of-falsehood campaign against the American public, much less had figured out how to do it. Trump saw the possibilities and capitalized on them. He opened the disinformation spigot on the first day of his presidency, with a blatant lie about the size of his inauguration crowd, and then spewed falsehoods at a rate that defied fact-checking—in October, more than 50 falsehoods a day.

But even that flood paled in comparison with the postelection tsunami. Trump spread disinformation through social media, conventional conservative media, the presidential bully pulpit, Republican partisans, and even the courts. Having weaponized lawsuits for advantage in his business career, he grasped how to use court filings as a disinformation channel, winning attention for his lies even if he lost the cases. He succeeded in getting politicians, media outlets, and millions of ordinary people to repeat and amplify his claims; no matter if the claims were absurd or mutually contradictory, as long as they spread. In American politics, so audacious and cynical a disinformation campaign is a radical innovation.

Yet it worked. Trump convinced a solid majority of Republicans that Biden did not rightfully win the election; just as worrisome, he convinced many other Americans that the true outcome of the election was in doubt, because, after all, where there is so much smoke, there must be fire. His success will induce other politicians to use similar methods. Trump’s development of an American model for mass disinformation may prove to be his most important and pernicious legacy.

That is a pretty remarkable list of accomplishments, even if it does not include stealing the election. But the benefits accrue to Trump, not the Republican Party. Until his election in 2016, Trump was not in any meaningful sense a Republican, and his takeover of the party was hostile both institutionally and ideologically. As president, he has obliterated anything resembling a coherent conservative agenda, and he repositioned the party as a personality cult whose only real principle is to empower him. So thoroughly did he personalize the party that it did not even bother with a platform this year.

By making himself synonymous with the party, by blocking the emergence of rivals, by putting the party on the wrong side of democracy, and by replacing ideas with disinformation, Trump is not leading the Republican Party so much as holding it hostage. He and his supporters can block but not build. They are spoilers who can foment chaos, encourage radicalism, divide the polity, and stymie rivals, but they cannot construct a coherent agenda or forge the post-Trump future.


The lame-duck period has given Republican leaders an opportunity to loose themselves from Trump’s grip. At the cost of angering their supporters, but with the next election still safely two years away, they could accept Biden’s win, denounce Trump’s usurpations, and begin the process of disentangling themselves from the president. Instead, by following Trump’s lead, they have worked themselves deeper into his coils. And, of course, Trump will use them and then throw them away.

So Trump, in the end, lost to the Democrats but put the Republicans to rout. He will not retain the presidency, but he has positioned himself to make life painful for American democracy, President Biden, and the Republican Party. Not a coup d’état, but not bad for a few weeks’ work.



coldjoint
 
  -2  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 10:05 pm
@coluber2001,
Quote:
The Atlantic

They can't stop hating. The article is a bunch of lies narrative style. It is all old news. Nothing from Mary?
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roger
 
  2  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 10:38 pm
@blatham,
Like performance, I'm sure resistance can and will be rewarded.
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 11:31 pm
Quote:
‘Stirring Up A Russia Scandal to Vilify Trump’: Declassified Brennan CIA Notes Prove Claims Were Political Hoax

Trump has a lot of things to get even for. Let's hope he takes these bastards down.
https://thenationalpulse.com/breaking/stirring-up-a-russia-scandal-to-vilify-trump-declassified-brennan-cia-notes-prove-claims-were-political-hoax/
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farmerman
 
  4  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 11:32 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
Trump is doing nothing illegal. They just have to suck it up


Mitch McConnell late today, congratulated Mr Biden;s election to the presidency and requested that the entire bipartisan components of the Senate take part in supporting Mr Bidens win in the 2020 presidential election.

Sounds like Mitch is also moving away from Crazy Don and his attempts to steal the election and mount a coup de ville in (DC).

Don;s really not doing his legacy any service by acting like a cry baby who just shat his diapers.

farmerman
 
  4  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 11:38 pm
@BillW,
I have a conservation easement on my entire farm.Such an easement actually pays the landholder to surrender its development rights. No additional income (beyond the price the land recovers when it is sold WITH THE SAME CONSERVATION EASEMENT IN EFFECT.

WHAt the Trump's have done is improper, Im not sure its a felony but he will owe the tax refund with interest and usually a 20% penalty per annum of the value of the easement.
BillW
 
  3  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 11:45 pm
@farmerman,
The thing that makes the court case so preposterous is they are claiming accountant - client and engineer - client privilege. Even I know no such thing exists. I'm an accountant by trade, never tell them something you don't want the court to know. In fact, an accountant is bound to not do unscrupulous things, even for a client. It keep getting in my way in business.
BillW
 
  4  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 11:59 pm
@BillW,
What a dolt - the great accomplishment, and only one really, of his entire presidency. Just go, please, today if not sooner!

Quote:
Trump administration finalizes rollback of showerhead standards
By Sam Fossum and Paul LeBlanc, CNN

Updated 9:42 PM ET, Tue December 15, 2020

Washington (CNN) ---
The US Department of Energy on Tuesday finalized a pair of new rules rolling back water efficiency standards on showerheads and other consumer appliances, punctuating President Donald Trump's long-documented water flow grievances in the final weeks of his administration.

The new showerhead rule goes after the two-and-a-half-gallon-per-minute maximum flow rate set by Congress in the 1990s. Under current federal law, each showerhead in a fixture counts toward that limit collectively -- but the Energy Department's new rule means each showerhead individually can reach the limit set by Congress.

The department also established separate product classes for residential washers and dryer units that have cycle times of less than 30 minutes and meet lower efficiency standards.

"Today the Trump Administration affirmed its commitment to reducing regulatory burdens and safeguarding consumer choice," Secretary of Energy Dan Brouillette said in a statement. "With these rule changes, Americans can choose products that are best suited to meet their individual needs and the needs of their families."

The rollbacks were quickly rebuked by environmental advocates and consumer and appliance standards groups, many of whom had raised concerns when the administration first proposed easing water efficiency standards in August.

"Changing the rules to address one of President Trump's pet peeves is simply silly," Andrew deLaski, executive director of the Appliance Standards Awareness Project, said in a statement. "Thousands of showerhead models on the market today meet the standards that Congress set way back in 1992 and provide a great shower."

The changes, deLaski maintained, "allow for products that needlessly waste energy and water, are ridiculous and out of step with the climate crisis and the long-term drought facing much of the country. The Biden administration can and should promptly reverse them."

That message was echoed by the vice president of advocacy at Consumer Reports, David Friedman, who praised appliance makers in a statement for "innovating in ways that help consumers thanks in part to steadily improving federal guidelines over the past three decades."

"The goal of appliance standards is to help consumers save money by reducing energy costs while meeting their needs, but these latest rollbacks and rule changes by the Department of Energy run counter to that mission."
.............
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/15/politics/showerhead-standards-trump/index.html
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Wed 16 Dec, 2020 12:15 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

Quote:
Trump is doing nothing illegal. They just have to suck it up


Mitch McConnell late today, congratulated Mr Biden;s election to the presidency and requested that the entire bipartisan components of the Senate take part in supporting Mr Bidens win in the 2020 presidential election.

Sounds like Mitch is also moving away from Crazy Don and his attempts to steal the election and mount a coup de ville in (DC).

Don;s really not doing his legacy any service by acting like a cry baby who just shat his diapers.



You forgetting about Killary? She is still crying. Hypocrite.
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Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Wed 16 Dec, 2020 12:23 am
Trump has added a morbid new distinction to his presidency – for the first time in US history, the federal government has in one year executed more American civilians than all the states combined.
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oristarA
 
  2  
Wed 16 Dec, 2020 01:53 am
It appears that McConnell has done it wisely. In addition to congratulating Biden and Harris , he warned fellow GOP senators on Tuesday not to join Trump’s extended assault on the Electoral College results. Surely in the coming Biden era, he will cooperate with Biden to heal the nation and build it back better.

https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/07305c93beb045369154483253329964/800.jpeg
roger
 
  2  
Wed 16 Dec, 2020 02:20 am
@BillW,
Yee Haw! Go Trump!
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Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Wed 16 Dec, 2020 02:22 am
In Houston police arrested a former police department captain for running a man off the road and pointing a gun at his head in a misguided attempt to foil a massive voter fraud scheme. Sixty-three-year-old Mark Anthony Aguirre claimed to be part of a citizens’ group investigating voter fraud. Believing his victim was hiding 750,000 fraudulent ballots in his truck, Aguirre rammed the truck with his SUV and held the driver first at gunpoint and then with his knee in the man’s back until police came. Upon inspection, it turned out the truck was full of air conditioning parts. The district attorney, Kim Ogg, said “His alleged investigation was backward from the start—first alleging a crime had occurred and then trying to prove it happened…. [W]e are lucky no one was killed.”

Former Houston Police Captain Arrested In Alleged Scheme To Prove ‘Voter Fraud’

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hightor
 
  4  
Wed 16 Dec, 2020 03:28 am
Right-Wing Embrace Of Conspiracy Is 'Mass Radicalization,' Experts Warn

Quote:
The widespread embrace of conspiracy and disinformation amounts to a "mass radicalization" of Americans, and increases the risk of right-wing violence, veteran security officials and terrorism researchers warn.

At conferences, in op-eds and at agency meetings, domestic terrorism analysts are raising concern about the security implications of millions of conservatives buying into baseless right-wing claims. They say the line between mainstream and fringe is vanishing, with conspiracy-minded Republicans now marching alongside armed extremists at rallies across the country. Disparate factions on the right are coalescing into one side, analysts say, self-proclaimed "real Americans" who are cocooned in their own news outlets, their own social media networks and, ultimately, their own "truth."

"This tent that used to be sort of 'far-right extremists' has gotten a lot broader. To me, a former counterterrorism official, that's a radicalization process," said Mary McCord, a former federal prosecutor who oversaw terrorism cases and who's now a law professor at Georgetown University.

McCord was speaking at a recent online conference, Millions of Conversations, an organization aimed at reducing polarization. Along with McCord, several other former officials who served in senior national security roles said the mass embrace of bogus information poses a serious national security concern for the incoming Biden administration.

Weekend protest

They added that there's no easy foil for a right-wing propaganda effort that amplifies fears and grievances on a nonstop loop. Those beliefs already have inspired political violence at protests over lockdowns and racial injustice. Political conspiracies drew thousands to last weekend's pro-Trump rally, after which the Proud Boys and other violent extremist groups wreaked havoc in downtown Washington, D.C.

"Breaking through that echo chamber is critical or else we'll see more violence," said Elizabeth Neumann, who in April resigned her post leading the Department of Homeland Security office that oversees responses to violent extremism.

While it's impossible to pin down the scope of such beliefs, analysts say, the numbers are staggering if even a fraction of President Trump's more than 74 million voters support bogus claims that say, for example, the election was rigged, the coronavirus is a hoax, and liberals are hatching a socialist takeover.

Traffic numbers for right-wing outlets and livestreams suggest the support extends well beyond the margins. Recent polls also signal the spread: One survey found that around 77% of Trump supporters believe that Joe Biden won the election as a result of fraud despite no evidence to support that claim.

At the online conference, participants characterized the shift as a mass radicalization. Neumann said the issue keeps her up at night worrying about where the country is heading. She talked about family members who've gone down the right-wing rabbit hole of disinformation. She said conversations with them require patience and negotiation, such as laying out her conditions for coronavirus safety protocols at family gatherings.

Neumann said it's hard to imagine what it would take to replicate those tough conversations on a national scale, given the power and reach of conservative media.

"I am wrestling with: How do I help people that have, unbeknownst to them, they've become radicalized in their thought? They hold views they didn't hold 10 years ago because all they listen to is that conservative infotainment," Neumann said. "Unless we help them break the deception, we cannot operate with 30% of the country holding the extreme views that they do."

Show of force

Jason Dempsey, a military analyst and former Army officer on the panel, said too many people are turning to force as a response to fears over political divisions, whether through the military and law enforcement, or the formation of local armed groups. The election-rigging rhetoric only ups the ante as Democrats are painted no longer just as fellow citizens with different views but as enemies who must be vanquished.

"There are no easy answers, even if they're carrying guns and wearing body armor," Dempsey said. "We've got to get past that and be wary of the idea of militarism that doesn't lead to a common conception of service, but leads to the kind of tribalism where we have to protect ourselves and our families by force against those we disagree with."

On the conference call, the analysts agreed that the leftist fringe also is hardening and promoting its own conspiracies. But they said there's simply no equivalency with the right in terms of the volume of disinformation and conspiracy, or in its connections to violent acts.

"There is a monetization of outrage on both sides," Neumann said, "but in particular the conservative infotainment sector makes money off of that outrage."

On the topic of solutions, the panelists floated ideas about education, media literacy, trusted mediators. But they added there's little chance of progress until Trump, a superspreader of conspiracies and disinformation, is out of the White House.

"Leadership matters," said Kori Schake, who was a senior adviser in the State Department, Defense Department and the National Security Council. "It really matters that the president of the United States is an arsonist of radicalization. And it will really help when that is no longer the case."

Entrenched polarization

The online conference wrapped up the way many such discussions do: without a clear solution, at least in the near-term. The same what-do-we-do conversations are happening in political circles, among researchers and at tech companies.

Nobody expects polarization – or its spinoff, radicalization – to go away when Trump is out of office. It's now a fixture of the American political landscape, part of an international trend toward right-wing populism, said Arie Kruglanski, a University of Maryland professor who's written extensively about radicalization. He said the erosion of trust in public institutions leaves ample room for disinformation to take root.

"We don't trust the government. We don't trust the Congress. We don't trust the Supreme Court. We don't trust now the science. We don't trust medicine. We don't trust the media for sure," Kruglanski said. "So who do we trust? Well, we trust our tribe. We trust conspiracy theories that tell us what we want to hear."

Kruglanski said revolutions and wars throughout history offer examples of how quickly extremism can go mainstream.

"Every large political movement started at one point as a small fringe minority," he said. "And when it catches on, it can engulf the whole society. So, you know, the danger is there."

npr

What could go wrong?

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snood
 
  3  
Wed 16 Dec, 2020 03:41 am
@oristarA,
oristarA wrote:

It appears that McConnell has done it wisely. In addition to congratulating Biden and Harris , he warned fellow GOP senators on Tuesday not to join Trump’s extended assault on the Electoral College results. Surely in the coming Biden era, he will cooperate with Biden to heal the nation and build it back better.

https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/07305c93beb045369154483253329964/800.jpeg



I was waiting for an emoji with eyes rolling or winking or some indication that you were just joking about Mitch McConnell being ready to cooperate with Biden and work with Democrats to legislate and govern. But I afraid you were actually serious. Damn.
Rebelofnj
 
  4  
Wed 16 Dec, 2020 06:44 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

MontereyJack wrote:

reality. 80 million americans say so.

Trump got 80 million not Biden. The votes were stolen or manufactured. That is the more than obvious truth.


According to Trump himself, he received 74 million votes. He has repeatedly said that numerous times as being a record number of votes for a president.

Even after all the voter fraud claims, he still only insists on having 74 million votes. He hasn't claimed to have a much higher vote count.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1337617458962817028
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Brand X
 
  4  
Wed 16 Dec, 2020 07:10 am
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Rebelofnj
 
  2  
Wed 16 Dec, 2020 07:35 am
Donald Trump, 12:40AM 16 December
Quote:
"Trump's allies slam Mitch McConnell for congratulating Biden https://mol.im/a/9057747 via
@MailOnline"
Mitch, 75,000,000 VOTES, a record for a sitting President (by a lot). Too soon to give up. Republican Party must finally learn to fight. People are angry!


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1339083004216532993
farmerman
 
  2  
Wed 16 Dec, 2020 09:11 am
@Rebelofnj,
when a baseball game ends in a 13 to 11 score, the winner is still 13 . The election works the same. IS it that TRUMP denies that the winner got more votes>> How and the hell does he make up his alternative facts. Hes delusional .

We still only had less than a 65% turnout to vote. It may be good for us but e sually have a really low turnout.

FACE IT, TRUMP is an unpopular president by 7 million votes.

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Brand X
 
  3  
Wed 16 Dec, 2020 09:58 am
Brad Heath
@bradheath
·
58s
Lawyers for Trump and his political allies are airing their farfetched claims of election-fraud before the Senate this morning. What they're not saying: They tried to make these claims in court and judges uniformly rejected all of them.
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