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engineer
 
  2  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 07:56 pm
@Wilso,
He lost worse than he won four years ago. He only won 304 electors to Biden's 306.
coldjoint
 
  -4  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 08:10 pm
@engineer,
engineer wrote:

He lost worse than he won four years ago. He only won 304 electors to Biden's 306.

You keep saying he lost. The election is disputed. There is no winner. Tell the truth.
Brand X
 
  2  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 08:10 pm
Trump's America.

Jake Tapper
@jaketapper
· 1h
HOUSTON, Texas (KTRK) -- A former Houston Police Department Captain was arrested and charged for running a man off the road and pointing a gun at his head in an attempt to prove claims of a massive voter fraud scheme in Harris County
coldjoint
 
  -4  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 08:12 pm
@Brand X,
Brand X wrote:

Trump's America.

Jake Tapper
@jaketapper
· 1h
HOUSTON, Texas (KTRK) -- A former Houston Police Department Captain was arrested and charged for running a man off the road and pointing a gun at his head in an attempt to prove claims of a massive voter fraud scheme in Harris County

Sure he was. Your source is known to lie or exaggerate. Interesting Texas is not being disputed
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vikorr
 
  3  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 08:13 pm
@coldjoint,
Still reading through the Michigan report. So far it says the dominion machine was severely flawed and would enable fraud - in either direction. A machine the operates in such as way that it would enable fraud is proof of a machine that operates in such a way that would enable fraud. You need evidence one step beyond that to say there was actual fraud (as in this case, there are two parties that could benefit from such)

And Michigan still doesn't change the facts of anything I said.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 08:17 pm
@vikorr,
vikorr wrote:

Still reading through the Michigan report. So far it says the dominion machine was severely flawed and would enable fraud - in either direction. A machine the operates in such as way that it would enable fraud is proof of a machine that operates in such a way that would enable fraud. You need evidence one step beyond that to say there was actual fraud (as in this case, there are two parties that could benefit from such)

And Michigan still doesn't change the fact of anything I said.

Should I just tell you you are right? Nope. There is plenty of evidence unless you deny what you have seen. Do not reply.
Rebelofnj
 
  3  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 08:21 pm
@coldjoint,
From 26 November

Donald Trump says he will leave White House if electoral college votes for Joe Biden

Quote:
Speaking to reporters on the Thanksgiving holiday, Trump said if Biden – who is due to be sworn in on 20 January – was certified the election winner by the electoral college, he would depart the White House.

Trump’s comments, made to reporters at the White House after speaking to troops during the traditional Thanksgiving Day address to US service members, appear to take him one step nearer to admitting defeat.

Asked if he would leave the White House if the college vote went against him, Trump said: “Certainly I will. And you know that,” adding that: “If they do, they’ve made a mistake.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/27/donald-trump-says-he-will-leave-white-house-if-electoral-college-votes-for-joe-biden
vikorr
 
  3  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 08:28 pm
@coldjoint,
Really?

- so Trump hasn't lost the vast majority of the court cases he instigated?
- so he and his supporters don't keep frequently coming up claims of fraud wth only half the information needed to make informed decisions as to whether or not fraud occured?
- Trump isn't refusng to hand over power?
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 08:53 pm
@Rebelofnj,
Rebelofnj wrote:

From 26 November

Donald Trump says he will leave White House if electoral college votes for Joe Biden

Quote:
Speaking to reporters on the Thanksgiving holiday, Trump said if Biden – who is due to be sworn in on 20 January – was certified the election winner by the electoral college, he would depart the White House.

Trump’s comments, made to reporters at the White House after speaking to troops during the traditional Thanksgiving Day address to US service members, appear to take him one step nearer to admitting defeat.

Asked if he would leave the White House if the college vote went against him, Trump said: “Certainly I will. And you know that,” adding that: “If they do, they’ve made a mistake.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/27/donald-trump-says-he-will-leave-white-house-if-electoral-college-votes-for-joe-biden

The Guardian needs to do some research. The electoral vote is not final until it is certified by Congress. That will Jan. 6th.
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 08:56 pm
@vikorr,
vikorr wrote:

Really?

- so Trump hasn't lost the vast majority of the court cases he instigated?
- so he and his supporters don't keep frequently coming up claims of fraud wth only half the information needed to make informed decisions as to whether or not fraud occured?
- Trump isn't refusng to hand over power?

Trump is doing nothing illegal. They just have to suck it up.
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 09:03 pm
Quote:
Michigan legislature committees subpoena election evidence from Detroit and nearby suburb

Somebody thinks there could be fraud. Why aren't the Democrats behind anything that could prove there is no fraud and restore the integrity?
Quote:
“Election integrity should not be a partisan issue, this information needs to be preserved,” State Senator Ruth Johnson said

Quote:
Concerned about possible election evidence being destroyed, members of a joint session of the Michigan Legislature’s House and Senate oversight committees on Tuesday voted to issue subpoenas to Detroit and the nearby suburb of Livonia demanding they surrender hard drives, emails, absentee voter counting board laptops and other election-related materials.

One Senate Democrat reportedly joined his Republican colleagues in supporting the subpoenas.

Hope we get to see what they found.
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/michigan-legislature-committees-subpoena-election-hard-drives-laptops
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vikorr
 
  3  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 09:04 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
Trump is doing nothing illegal. They just have to suck it up.
Didn't say he was.

I was pointing out that you close your eyes to what you don't want to see
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BillW
 
  2  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 09:06 pm
theRump lost another court case today, again - the biggest loser in the world, how could anybody back him? Another case with no merit!!!!!

Quote:

Judge rejects Trump Organization's claim of privilege to shield documents from New York attorney general

The related investigation stems from Michael Cohen's congressional testimony.

testimony.
ByAaron Katersky
December 15, 2020, 2:35 PM

A judge in New York on Tuesday rejected President Donald Trump's claim of attorney-client privilege that could have shielded documents from the New York Attorney General's office.

The Trump Organization was given until Friday to turn over documents from the engineer of its Seven Springs Estate, a property in Westchester County being investigated by Attorney General Tish James over how it was valued by the organization while seeking tax benefits from New York state.

At issue is whether the property's conservation easement is legitimate. The president's son, Eric, sat for a deposition. James' office is looking into whether an improper valuation let the Trump Organization take a $21 million tax deduction.
...........

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-organization-seeking-shield-documents-york-attorney-general/story?id=74738849&cid=clicksource_4380645_2_heads_hero_live_twopack_hed
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 09:19 pm
@BillW,
Quote:
the biggest loser in the world,

Projection.
MontereyJack
 
  2  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 09:23 pm
@coldjoint,
why don't you tell the truth. the election is over. biden won. your side keeps proposing one moronic hare-brained schem with no possibility of succeeding after another. ntrump lokst all his court battles. SCOTUS squelched him, what is it now, three times> tates are not going to declare their elections invalid and hand them to trump electors. one state's trump e;lectors are not going to flip another state to trump electors. it's lover.. you lost, and the country is rejoicing. and trump just got twice as many votes as anyone else as worst president EVER. He's a goner, deservedly. Live in reality for a change.
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 09:27 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:

why don't you tell the truth. the election is over. biden won. your side keeps proposing one moronic hare-brained schem with no possibility of succeeding after another. ntrump lokst all his court battles. SCOTUS squelched him, what is it now, three times> tates are not going to declare their elections invalid and hand them to trump electors. one state's trump e;lectors are not going to flip another state to trump electors. it's lover.. you lost, and the country is rejoicing. and trump just got twice as many votes as anyone else as worst president EVER. He's a goner, deservedly. Live in reality for a change.

I am telling the truth. The election is not over because the media and assorted idiots claim it is. That includes Republicans. Jan 6th it will be official and not until then.
MontereyJack
 
  2  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 09:35 pm
@coldjoint,
It's over. None of your fantasies will happen.
MontereyJack
 
  2  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 09:36 pm
@coldjoint,
reality. 80 million americans say so.
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 09:49 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:

reality. 80 million americans say so.

Trump got 80 million not Biden. The votes were stolen or manufactured. That is the more than obvious truth.
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Tue 15 Dec, 2020 09:51 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:

It's over. None of your fantasies will happen.

They already happened in the swing states.
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