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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
BillW
 
  2  
Sat 12 Dec, 2020 10:13 am
@hightor,
So, maybe votes should be weighted, hmmmm!
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farmerman
 
  4  
Sat 12 Dec, 2020 10:14 am
@hightor,
Whats somewhat ironic is the Trumpublican party. The Republicans used to be the party of states rights, when Trump took over, they began using the USSC to dictate how all states must run their elections

One way or th other but definitely not BOTH WAYS.
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blatham
 
  2  
Sat 12 Dec, 2020 10:14 am
@hightor,
Jesus. That's quite a graph.
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revelette3
 
  3  
Sat 12 Dec, 2020 10:16 am
@BillW,
I am unsure of your meaning.

In any case, I was merely struck by how closely the poll resembled the election numbers of both parties. It seems republicans only have republicans in this last election. Democrats were fortunate to get all other groups with very few third parties compared to 2016 and way more participation with blacks and other minority groups in the general Presidential election of Trump and Biden. All of those factors are what put Biden in WH come January.

Now the really hard part comes in. With so many different factions representing our coming administration, there is going to be power struggles. Not mention probably a republican senate majority.
BillW
 
  3  
Sat 12 Dec, 2020 10:30 am
@revelette3,
The 2020 polls.were showing that a huge turnout was headed the way of Dems, not so as much for Reps. This has to occur through a large minority of Reps lying in the poll as to if they would vote.or not.

theRump constantly got only 36-42% likeability rating, but they still voted for him. Why? Clinton I could understand, somewhat - they hated her, Biden, not so much - he has always been liked by the Centrist Reps.

Put the polls never show he had a chance, twice. It isn't switch over from Dems, pollsters cheating, the lack of poll science - it has to be the way the right answers polls in the era of theRump.

I say, theRump lies, they lie!
revelette3
 
  3  
Sat 12 Dec, 2020 10:39 am
@BillW,
Oh well, I am not sure where our progressives went, but, I sort of agree with Biden and Obama that the extreme rhetoric of the "defund police" from the protestors in the summer didn't do us any favors. Plus a lot of those protest got violent, some of egged on by the other extreme side, nonetheless, we got blamed for it. Plus all of those who voted for Biden were not democrats and so voted republican on all else.

At least that is my take on it. But your right, for some reason, a lot of Trump voters lie.
izzythepush
 
  2  
Sat 12 Dec, 2020 10:55 am
@revelette3,
There is a valid argument for some redistribution of funds. Other local services have been cut, and the police have ended up having to deal with things they’re not cut out for.

Money spent on military grade hardware for the police would be better spent on providing somewhere for kids to go instead of having them out on the streets, it could be spent on drug rehabilitation programmes, or youth workers keeping kids away from gangs.

There’s far more effective ways of reducing crime than militarising the police.
MontereyJack
 
  2  
Sat 12 Dec, 2020 11:29 am
@oralloy,
SCOTUS disagrees with you. They would violate state law if they did it. They would be criminals. They would be Republicans. Same thing.
MontereyJack
 
  2  
Sat 12 Dec, 2020 11:32 am
@oralloy,
SCOTUS supports the constitution. that's the only true part of your statement.
oristarA
 
  2  
Sat 12 Dec, 2020 11:42 am
Trump tweeted half a day ago:
Quote:
The Supreme Court really let us down. No Wisdom, No Courage!


Glad that American legal system doesn't let down American people. It doesn't matter that it let down Trump, who has no wisdom yet has "courage."

revelette3
 
  2  
Sat 12 Dec, 2020 11:43 am
@izzythepush,
Which is why describing it as "reforming the justice system" is more accurate and better than "defunding the police.
izzythepush
 
  2  
Sat 12 Dec, 2020 11:54 am
@revelette3,
Agreed, defunding the police is an emotive slogan that evokes images of anarchy, but it is memorable.

Reform the Justice System sounds a bit vague and could refer to many things, like legal representation or sentencing. Defund the police is unambiguous and to the point. That’s probably why it’s a sign carried by protesters.
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BillW
 
  2  
Sat 12 Dec, 2020 12:20 pm
I just found out that NY State is going to arrest theRump directly after he leaves our WH because he is such a flight risk!
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sat 12 Dec, 2020 12:23 pm
@oristarA,
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Glad that American legal system doesn't let down American people.

It hasn't yet, there are still legal ways for Trump to win.
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Even after Texas SCOTUS ruling, President Trump is still going to win


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And that’s okay. It’s not ideal; I was 50/50 on whether the case could prompt a short delay on selection of electors to allow other lawsuits and investigations to work their way up the ladder, but that didn’t happen. Now, we’re here with many Trump supporters losing hope. That’s understandable but unwarranted. Lest we forget, we have the most important earthly factor on our side: The truth. As long as this is still the United States of America, the truth has an opportunity to shine through in the end.

Quote:
JD Rucker
@JDRucker
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18h
The Texas case wasn't our best shot, contrary to what so many have said. As I noted in the show last night, it had fatal flaws, and I didn't even mention standing.

But the truth is coming out. Better cases are coming up. I'm still at 90% sure President Trump wins, Lord willing.

https://noqreport.com/2020/12/12/even-after-texas-scotus-ruling-president-trump-is-still-going-to-win/
coldjoint
 
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Sat 12 Dec, 2020 12:40 pm
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Sidney Powell Announces Emergency Filings in Georgia, Michigan, Arizona and Wisconsin

She is not giving up. The more she does the more information gets out about the massive fraud and big tech and the media can only delay with omission and censorship, but not stop it.

The more they omit or censor the more they convince people that massive fraud did take place. This is far from over.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/sidney-powell-announces-emergency-filings-georgia-michigan-arizona-wisconsin/
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sat 12 Dec, 2020 12:41 pm
@BillW,
BillW wrote:

I just found out that NY State is going to arrest theRump directly after he leaves our WH because he is such a flight risk!

Then source it.
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sat 12 Dec, 2020 12:54 pm
Quote:
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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5h
WE HAVE JUST BEGUN TO FIGHT!!!
7:47 AM · Dec 12, 2020

They have not beat him yet. Why should this time be any different?
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oristarA
 
  2  
Sat 12 Dec, 2020 01:00 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
It hasn't yet, there are still legal ways for Trump to win.


No way. With fifty lawsuits about the election having lost in a row, now Trump whines the Superme Court has shut the door on his future efforts.

Quote:
Lest we forget, we have the most important earthly factor on our side: The truth. As long as this is still the United States of America, the truth has an opportunity to shine through in the end.


Everyone in the world knows that Trump has anything but the truth.
Rebelofnj
 
  4  
Sat 12 Dec, 2020 01:18 pm
Trump blasts AG Barr over Hunter Biden probe secrecy, condemns Supreme Court order tossing election challenge

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President Donald Trump on Saturday morning lashed out at targets he blames for costing him the presidential election against Joe Biden: His attorney general, William Barr, two Republican governors and the Supreme Court.

Trump, facing a big defeat Monday when the Electoral College is set to pick the Democrat Biden as the next president, on Twitter painted a distorted picture of being stabbed in the back by fellow Republicans, four of whom he put into their current jobs.

Trump explicitly said that the Republican governors of Georgia and Arizona should be voted out of office.

And Trump retweeted a post that said Barr “should be fired by the end of business today” if the attorney general had worked to keep a criminal investigation of Biden’s son Hunter Biden secret during the election, as The Wall Street Journal reported Friday.

“A big disappointment!” Trump wrote in a comment on that post, which ignores the fact that Barr appeared to be following ethical rules by keeping mum about a probe where the target has not been criminally charged.

Hunter Biden disclosed earlier this week that he is under investigation by federal prosecutors in Delaware for possible tax crimes, but said he followed the law with his taxes.

“Why didn’t Bill Barr reveal the truth to the public, before the Election, about Hunter Biden. Joe was lying on the debate stage that nothing was wrong, or going on – Press confirmed. Big disadvantage for Republicans at the polls!,” Trump wrote in another tweet.

Barr already was under fire from Trump for saying the Justice Department had not seen any evidence of widespread ballot fraud that would lead to Biden’s victory being undone.

Trump predicted in a third tweet that “IF” Joe Biden “gets in” to the White House, “nothing will happen to Hunter or Joe.”

“Barr will do nothing, and the new group of partisan killers coming in will quickly kill it all,” he wrote.

The same tweet blasted a top federal prosecutor, John Durham, for failing to file any significant charges before the election related to what Trump claims were crimes by FBI officials and others in investigating his 2016 campaign and its dealings with Russians. Durham was appointed by Barr to probe the origins of the so-called Russia investigation.

Trump’s tweet tirade came the morning after the Supreme Court said it would not allow Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton to file a lawsuit directly to that court challenging the election results in four states whose popular vote wins by Biden pushed him over the victory threshold of 270 votes in the Electoral College.

Paxton’s effort was endorsed by filings from 18 attorneys general from other states where Trump had won the popular vote, and by a majority of Republican members of the House of Representatives.

The Supreme Court, which has three out of nine justices appointed by Trump, said Paxton did not have legal standing to contest the voting procedures of the states, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

The ruling is a fatal blow to Trump’s bid to reverse Biden’s electoral win through lawsuits.

Two conservative justices not appointed by Trump, Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas, said he would have allowed Paxton to file the suit, but would have ruled against him on the merits of his claim.

“This is a great and disgraceful miscarriage of justice,” wrote Trump, who after the ruling skipped a White House Christmas party that he was expected to speak at.

“The people of the United States were cheated, and our Country was disgraced. Never even given our day in court.”

Twitter blocked that tweet from being shared on its platform, by others, including CNBC. Twitter labeled the tweet with the message, “This claim about election fraud is disputed.”

The same label got slapped on Trump’s subsequent tweet, which said, “I WON THE ELECTION IN A LANDSLIDE, but remember, I only think in terms of legal votes, not all of the fake voters and fraud that miraculously floated in from everywhere! What a disgrace!”

Trump later wrote that “The Supreme Court had ZERO interest in the merits of the greatest voter fraud ever perpetrated on the United States of America.”

“All they were interested in is “standing”, which makes it very difficult for the President to present a case on the merits. 75,000,000 votes!”

Those kinds of claims by Trump have failed to gain traction in any of the state and federal lawsuits filed by his campaign and his political allies in multiple states.

Trump also attacked two Republican governors, Georgia’s Brian Kemp and Doug Ducey of Arizona, each of whose states were won by Biden, and each of whom rejected Trump’s characterization of those wins being bogus due to massive fraud.

Trump wrote that both governors were Republicans in name only, and should be tossed out of their jobs in the next elections.

“Who is a worse governor, @BrianKempGA of Georgia or @dougducey of Arizona??? These are two RINO Republicans who fought against me and the Republican Party harder than any Democrat,” Trump wrote.

“They allowed states that I won easily to be stolen. Never forget, vote them out of office!”

As the morning went on, Trump claimed that “thousands of people” were gathering in Washington, D.C., for “Stop the Steal” protests endorsing his conspiracy theory.′

“I’ll be seeing them!” he tweeted.


https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/12/trump-blasts-barr-over-hunter-biden-probe-condemns-supreme-court.html

Not sure why Trump expected the 3 Justices he appointed to be loyal to him and help him, regardless of everything. Now that they are in the Court, Trump really can't do anything to remove them.
revelette3
 
  3  
Sat 12 Dec, 2020 01:22 pm
Trump raised firing Barr in White House meeting on Friday

It's a good thing we don't live in medieval times, can you imagine Trump with absolute power to order anyone to get their head's chopped off? Also silly folks would go right along with it. Oh, I will be so (elongated 'so') glad when he is at least gone from the White House. I am tired of hearing about him. My husband watches fox news all the time and even he is tired of hearing about Trump and the election. Pretty sure he voted for him too.
 

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