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farmerman
 
  5  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 05:38 pm
@hightor,
UHHH. SUPREME COURT just shut down te Texas case. They dont even have standing.

Thomas and Alito descented in part (re the issue of original standing) .
farmerman
 
  4  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 05:40 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:

This Petition for a Writ of Certiorari seeks to halt the certification of votes by the Secretary of State based upon his entering into an unconstitutional agreement that subverts plenary protocols. In essence, he’s saying that the vote and subsequent counting of the votes went against state laws, the state constitution, and the U.S. Constitution by not allowing for Equal Protection.
We knew where it was going when the writ was assignd to a couple of clerks and really didnt involve any work by a jutice.


All the other arguments are now dead
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 05:41 pm
Quote:
The Desperate Bid to Smear the Texas Lawsuit

Quote:

"Ken Paxton, the Attorney General of Texas, is under a federal investigation and would love a presidential pardon. His lawsuit is just more performative leg humping by someone desperate to curry favor with President Trump," Eric Erickson writes.

Speaking of performative leg humping of the media, this narrative has been pouring from the media from Day 1 of the lawsuit.

Even though it makes no sense.

The Texas lawsuit has been joined by 17 state AGs. Are the attorney generals of Missouri, Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Indiana, Kansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah and West Virginia all under federal investigation and seeking pardons?

Senator Ted Cruz has offered to argue the case in front of the Supreme Court. Is he looking for a pardon?

72% of Republicans don't trust the election results. Are they all under federal investigation and looking for a pardon from President Trump?

It's funny how the very people lecturing us about conspiracy theories are so prone to believing in them.

Attacking people's motives has a certain common sense to it in politics, but assuming that no one you disagree with believes what they say they believe leads inevitably to living in a gnostic world of conspiracy theories in which nothing can be understood except by assuming that the other side knows you're right, but is deliberately lying about it because of underhanded motives. And that reduces the world to the truthful people on your side and the liars on the other side.

That certainly simplifies the world, but also makes it impossible to understand.

Political movements are compelling because people who follow them believe what they believe. There's a certain irony that Erickson, who used to lecture the media about making such assumptions about conservatives, now dispenses secondhand media lectures that assume no one believes what they believe.

The Texas lawsuit, joined by 17 other states, will stand or fall. But trying to smear state AGs who are fighting against the illegal election rigging by governors and officials who violated their own state laws while dismissing their arguments is a deeply dishonest attempt to avoid engaging with this fundamental issue.

https://www.frontpagemag.com/point/2020/12/desperate-bid-smear-texas-lawsuit-daniel-greenfield/
blatham
 
  3  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 05:43 pm
@farmerman,
However, Giulini and his team may now take this to the Galactic Federation's Sector 7 High Court.
farmerman
 
  3  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 05:44 pm
@coldjoint,
ITTS OVER PINKY> THE BIG CAPER TO STEAL AN ELLECTION IS NOW DEAD.
HAVE A MERRY CHRISMASS PINKY
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 05:44 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

Quote:
There are mountains of proof.

You mean mountains of allegations.

None of which have been proven.

The charges of "fraud" were planned long before the election happened. Michael Cohen predicted as much.

How come that reasoning never applied to Trump. And Michael Cohen. Laughing Laughing Laughing
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 05:45 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

UHHH. SUPREME COURT just shut down te Texas case. They dont even have standing.

Thomas and Alito descented in part (re the issue of original standing) .

Source
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 05:46 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

However, Giulini and his team may now take this to the Galactic Federation's Sector 7 High Court.

Trump might invoke the insurrection act. He has that power.
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Builder
 
  -2  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 05:47 pm
No surprises here, folks. Move along.

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Rebelofnj
 
  2  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 05:47 pm
Supreme Court dismisses bid led by Texas attorney general to overturn the presidential election results, blocking Trump’s legal path to reverse his loss

Quote:
The Supreme Court on Friday dismissed a long-shot bid by President Trump and the state of Texas to overturn the results in four states won by Democrat Joe Biden, blocking the president’s legal path to reverse his reelection loss.

The court’s unsigned order was short: “Texas has not demonstrated a judicially cognizable interest in the manner in which another state conducts its elections. All other pending motions are dismissed as moot.”

Justices Samuel A. Alito Jr. and Clarence Thomas, as they have in the past, said they did not believe the court had the authority to simply reject Texas’s request. “I would therefore grant the motion to file the bill of complaint but would not grant other relief, and I express no view on any other issue.”


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/supreme-court-texas-election-trump/2020/12/11/bf462f22-3bc6-11eb-bc68-96af0daae728_story.html
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 05:47 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

ITTS OVER PINKY> THE BIG CAPER TO STEAL AN ELLECTION IS NOW DEAD.
HAVE A MERRY CHRISMASS PINKY

I asked for a source, and the election has already been stolen.
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vikorr
 
  3  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 05:52 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
There are mountains of proof
You continue to believe an unbelievable conspiracy theory that requires:

- the election officials to be corrupt
- every court where he has lost to be corrupt
- 99% of the courts to be corrupt (a refrasing of the above)

This is simply unbelievable...unless the US as a whole has stopped believing in democracy and due process. And by 'as a whole', I mean the vast majority on both sides of politics.

You keep posting information:
- that is missing half the information needed for you to make an informed decision; or
- is within the normal range of irregularities while claiming it is somehow evidence (and again, without the other half of the necessary information); or
- was easily able to be foreseen, while claiming it is somehow evidence (eg the larger voter turnout on both sides); or
- things that are plain wrong (eg that only 1000 people viewed Bidens thanksgiving speech); or
- which have to be viewed in light of the failures in the court system, over, and over, and over again...

The simplest answer is, the claims of fraud are themselves fraudulent.

Why anyone would find this surprising hasn't been paying attention to personality / character traits.
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maporsche
 
  3  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 05:53 pm
@farmerman,
Woot!!!

Welcome to the Biden administration (in 40ish days)!!!!

I'm tired of all this winning.
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 05:54 pm
@Rebelofnj,
Rebelofnj wrote:

Supreme Court dismisses bid led by Texas attorney general to overturn the presidential election results, blocking Trump’s legal path to reverse his loss

Quote:
The Supreme Court on Friday dismissed a long-shot bid by President Trump and the state of Texas to overturn the results in four states won by Democrat Joe Biden, blocking the president’s legal path to reverse his reelection loss.

The court’s unsigned order was short: “Texas has not demonstrated a judicially cognizable interest in the manner in which another state conducts its elections. All other pending motions are dismissed as moot.”

Justices Samuel A. Alito Jr. and Clarence Thomas, as they have in the past, said they did not believe the court had the authority to simply reject Texas’s request. “I would therefore grant the motion to file the bill of complaint but would not grant other relief, and I express no view on any other issue.”


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/supreme-court-texas-election-trump/2020/12/11/bf462f22-3bc6-11eb-bc68-96af0daae728_story.html

The state legislatures will be under tremendous pressure to deny Biden the electoral votes, let's hope they do. When and if they do the SCOTUS will not take that case either? And I do not believe the WP. There could be a lot more to this.
coldjoint
 
  -4  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 05:59 pm
@maporsche,
maporsche wrote:

Woot!!!

Welcome to the Biden administration (in 40ish days)!!!!

I'm tired of all this winning.

America lost the integrity in its elections and now we will lose our freedom. China owns Biden.

Donald J. Trump will be America's last legitimate president. Everyone who gave their life for this country will be waiting on judgement day for people just like you. You won't be with them long. It gives you something to look forward to.
Rebelofnj
 
  2  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 05:59 pm
@coldjoint,
Again, The Washington Post did not make up this news up; they just reported it. I can post multiple links if I must.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-idUSKBN28L2YY

https://www.npr.org/2020/12/11/945617913/supreme-court-shuts-door-on-trump-election-prospects

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-rejects-texas-effort-overturn-election-fatal-blow-trump-n1250883

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/11/politics/supreme-court-texas-trump-biden/index.html

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/texas-files-reply-brief-in-election-suit-final-step-before-court-would-issue-order-in-blockbuster-case
farmerman
 
  6  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 06:04 pm
@coldjoint,
move on pinky. The system works. Joe won by 7 million votes. Trump will have to suffer the fact that he is a loser , a runner up in a field of2.

Trump was reviled by more people than loved him.

I wonder if hes looking for a country with no extradition treaty w/ the USA
maporsche
 
  3  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 06:04 pm
@Rebelofnj,
Fake news!!!!

"Here's how Trump can still win this...."

I hope he hit's the streets in protest....and I'm really hoping he doesn't catch Covid when he does.
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Brand X
 
  3  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 06:06 pm
Brad Heath
@bradheath
·
29m
Here's the Supreme Court order rejecting Texas' attempt to throw out the results of the presidential election in four other states. The court declines to hear it; the only dispute is a technical one over the manner by which it is killed.

It's over.

https://supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/121120zr_p860.pdf
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Fri 11 Dec, 2020 06:08 pm
@Rebelofnj,

I did not say the WP made it up I said they did not tell the whole story. They never do and are not going to start now. Enjoy the new Banana Republic. America ceases to exist the day Mr. Braindead Potato head takes office,

Also keep your eyes open for Trump's reaction and how many he is able to take down before he leaves office.
 

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