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izzythepush
 
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Mon 20 Feb, 2017 07:50 am
@blatham,
The visit will go ahead, May has already said that, and Theresa the appeaser can't back down now. He will not be allowed to address parliament, the speaker has made sure of that, so the visit will probably be when parliament is in recess.

There will be massive protests, everyone hates Trump.
blatham
 
  2  
Mon 20 Feb, 2017 07:52 am
Here's a catapult used to toss bales of marijuana from Mexico into the US.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5F-9FAWYAQAqCE.jpg

Very helpful for us do-it-yourself guys. I'm going to duplicate this mechanism and set it up on the Canadian side to rain Canadian cheddar rounds down onto an unsuspecting American population. Hah!
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blatham
 
  2  
Mon 20 Feb, 2017 07:54 am
@izzythepush,
But I gather the debate will be held in any case? That ought to provide some fun along with everything else we can expect for a find British welcome.
blatham
 
  2  
Mon 20 Feb, 2017 07:57 am
Quote:
LOLGOP ‏@LOLGOP 1h1 hour ago
We'll soon learn if CPAC believe that having sex with kids is more disgusting than insuring them.
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izzythepush
 
  2  
Mon 20 Feb, 2017 08:05 am
@blatham,
It has to be. There should be some good quotations. Meanwhile Ebagum has come out in favour of Trump. Looks like a new axis of evil.

Quote:
President Donald Trump should be given a chance to prove himself, Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe says.

He went on to express his support for Mr Trump's America-first policy, saying "America for Americans" and "Zimbabwe for Zimbabweans".

It is unusual for the veteran head of state to publicly back any US president.

The US imposed sanctions such as travel bans and an assets freeze on Mr Mugabe and his allies in 2001.

The sanctions were imposed over allegations of human rights abuses and election rigging.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-39027611
blatham
 
  2  
Mon 20 Feb, 2017 08:07 am
Quote:
What we're seeing is the greatest power grab in American history -- a full-scale coup aimed at controlling what is truth, and what is fiction. Trump and his Oval Office crew are seeing the unchallenged right to create "alternative facts," to set the terms of what is true without regard to any sense of objective reality and especially without regard to "the very, very dishonest media." And the ability to manufacture reality is the essence of totalitarianism.
Philly.com
A very good piece here from Will Bunch. By the way, his book "Tear Down That Myth" on the purposeful construction of a Reagan mythology by (mainly) Grover Norquist is an eye-opener.
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blatham
 
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Mon 20 Feb, 2017 08:09 am
@izzythepush,
Yeah. That's cool. You definitely wanna have Robert Mugabe in your camp. Maybe Limbaugh will get a call from Bob and they can chat about how political correctness is ruining everything everywhere.
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blatham
 
  3  
Mon 20 Feb, 2017 08:12 am
Lot of stuff on twitter this morning re the NYT piece re Trump and back-channel ties to Russia. Slater looks to be a key figure here:
Quote:
Tim O'BrienVerified account
‏@TimOBrien
1/2: One of the most under-examined aspects of Trump is his involvement w/ street-level mobsters like Felix Sater:
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McGentrix
 
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Mon 20 Feb, 2017 08:21 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

Terrible! Trump's three flight to Mar-a-Lago only costed $10 million of taxpayer money.


Link?
Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 20 Feb, 2017 08:23 am
@McGentrix,
Judicial Watch. You have to look for it yourself
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blatham
 
  4  
Mon 20 Feb, 2017 08:31 am
@McGentrix,
Fair bit of coverage on this. Here's one
https://www.aol.com/article/finance/2017/02/15/trump-s-third-consecutive-mar-a-lago-weekend-could-cost-taxpayer/21714609/
Also the Independent and Politico.
revelette1
 
  2  
Mon 20 Feb, 2017 08:52 am
Donald Trump's comments confuse Swedes as supporters cry cover-up

I am left wondering if there is any outlandish claim Trump can make his supporters won't defend, I mean they make themselves stupid for him.
Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Mon 20 Feb, 2017 08:54 am
@blatham,
Quote:
Trump’s three Mar-a-Lago trips since the inauguration have probably cost the federal treasury about $10 million, based on figures used in an October government report analyzing White House travel, including money for Coast Guard units to patrol the exposed shoreline and other military, security and staffing expenses associated with moving the apparatus of the presidency.

Palm Beach County officials plan to ask Washington to reimburse tens of thousands of dollars a day in expenses for deputies handling added security and traffic issues around the cramped Florida island whenever Trump is in town.

In New York, the city is paying $500,000 a day to guard Trump Tower, according to police officials’ estimates, an amount that could reach $183 million a year.

This month, The Post reported that Secret Service and U.S. Embassy staffers paid nearly $100,000 in hotel-room bills to support Eric Trump’s trip to promote a Trump-brand condo tower in Uruguay.

“This is an expensive way to conduct business, and the president should recognize that,” said Tom Fitton, president of the conservative group Judicial Watch, which closely tracked President Barack Obama’s family vacation costs and said that it intends to continue the effort for the Trump administration.
Source
Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 20 Feb, 2017 09:02 am
@revelette1,
Some have pointed out that Trump may have got the dates mixed up but he was, in fact, right. There was a recent terrorist attack in Sweden, which took in more refugees per capita than any other European country in 2016 – but it was by neo-Nazis on a refugee centre:
Quote:
Three suspected neo-Nazis were arrested in January after a Gothenburg Asylum centre became the target of a homemade bomb attack, leaving one person seriously injured.

Security services said all three suspects had previously been members of the Nordic Resistance Movement (NMR), a group that openly promotes racist and anti-Semitic views and has vocally opposed non-white immigration to the country.
Source
McGentrix
 
  1  
Mon 20 Feb, 2017 09:06 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:


Laughing Laughing

Seriously?
Quote:
According to Politico, each trip's estimated $3 million price tag is based on a similar four-day trip that Obama took in February 2013.


Anything and everything with you guys. Like the pictures of the Presidential couples getting on Air Force One... Fake News for fake minds. Trump could walk on water and make a blind man see and you guys would shout from the rooftops "TRUMP CAN'T SWIM AND TAKES HANDICAP BENEFITS FROM THE BLIND!!!"
farmerman
 
  4  
Mon 20 Feb, 2017 09:13 am
@McGentrix,
associated costs to the Palm community is measured in tens of millions of neg dollars for the local tourist industry.
"Please honor another city with your weekly visits" say business people who were Trump supporters.
YA mean that the news photogs faked the pictures??


The difference between your def of "fake" and mine.

Id have to check to see whether anything you assert about fake news has truth to it, whereas Trump, almost verything said, he said right on screen and you guys try to deny it.

Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 20 Feb, 2017 09:18 am
Quote:
This is a problem for small-government, fiscal conservatives. A runaway government addicted to spending, with deficits and debt all around, is taking on another massive cost both at the local and the federal level. The sad part is that conservatives who frequently got on to Barack Obama for that Hawaii vacation (and every other vacations) will say nothing about this cost, which far exceeds the Obamas.

Fitton is right that all this is a known quantity to Donald Trump. He knows what these things cost, and yet he is determined to spend a lot of time in the “Winter White House” at Mar-a-Lago, as well as New York, and he knows his family’s lifestyle won’t get any less extravagant.

It’s unfortunate, because there will inevitably be good fiscal conservatives who will otherwise twist themselves in complex (and illegal in some states) ways just to defend it.
Source: RedState
McGentrix
 
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Mon 20 Feb, 2017 09:23 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

YA mean that the news photogs faked the pictures??


No, I am sure the pictures are real. I am talking about the implied meaning behind the pictures.

A picture is worth a thousand words, right? Well, the words that Blatham implies are pretty much straight up lies. Thus, fake news.
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giujohn
 
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Mon 20 Feb, 2017 09:26 am
@layman,
layman wrote:

old europe wrote:

Look at that, one more anchor over at another ultra-liberal mainstream media outlet doesn't like Trump's attacks on the press:

Quote:
Fox News anchor Chris Wallace warns viewers: Trump crossed the line in latest attack on media

“But when he said that the fake news media is not my enemy, it's the enemy of the American people, I believe that crosses an important line.”


Wallace is wrong. Fake news is an enemy of the people.

The people can decide if, and when, the shoe fits.


I don't know who came up with this cutesy euphemism fake news... But we should get back to calling it exactly what it is... Yellow Journalism.



"Just two years after Pulitzer took it over, the World became the highest circulation newspaper in New York, aided in part by its strong ties to the Democratic Party. Older publishers, envious of Pulitzer's success, began criticizing the World, harping on its crime stories and stunts while ignoring its more serious reporting — trends which influenced the popular perception of yellow journalism. Charles Dana, editor of the New York Sun, attacked The World and said Pulitzer was "deficient in judgment and in staying power."
hightor
 
  3  
Mon 20 Feb, 2017 09:51 am
@McGentrix,
Quote:
Like the pictures of the Presidential couples getting on Air Force One...

You missed the mark on this one (why am I not surprised) — the picture is the latest in a bunch of photos where Trump is seen to act dismissively toward his wife. That's the context. I don't doubt that you're unaware of those pictures and the conversation around them but "Fake News for fake minds" is a pretty juvenile comment. The pictures are real and people can make of them what they want. And once again, McGentrix falls short.
 

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