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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
blatham
 
  2  
Sun 19 Feb, 2017 04:26 pm
@cicerone imposter,
One of the few hopeful signs, ci
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blatham
 
  2  
Sun 19 Feb, 2017 04:29 pm
Now this is true
Quote:
SaIIy Yates ‏@SaIIyYates 8h8 hours ago
Trump cited non-existent terrorist attack in Sweden in Florida rally, but not the actual Quebec attack.

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hightor
 
  2  
Sun 19 Feb, 2017 04:33 pm
@ossobucotemp,
I can see how my comment might have been construed as particularly critical of the New Yorker since I was responding to blatham's post. But it was more of a general observation on sheer quantity of information. It was like this during Watergate, the WTC/Pentagon attacks for sure, the Lewinsky scandal — when every day the air is thick with news — yesterday's news warmed over, today's big headline, the impending disaster that's sure to come. And next week it's the same energy and the air is just as thick but things have changed a little bit, one story line trails off somewhere and there's a new one and then you realize that the story that was supposed to happen kind of turned into something else but a real humdinger is on the way...stay tuned!

I've been a lifelong NYer reader and consider it well worth reading and subscribing to. Along with the NY Rev and the NYT — hmm, I see a pattern here.
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blatham
 
  2  
Sun 19 Feb, 2017 04:38 pm
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5Ahe77WAAAuHtr.jpg
cicerone imposter
 
  3  
Sun 19 Feb, 2017 04:49 pm
@blatham,
Picture is worth a thousand words.
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giujohn
 
  -1  
Sun 19 Feb, 2017 05:05 pm


Polls Collide: What is President Trump's Approval Rating, Anyway?
Guy Benson | February 17, 2017



Polls Collide: What is President Trump's Approval Rating, Anyway?
During his memorably hostile press conference yesterday, President Trump spiked the football on the media. Despite their best efforts to harm his presidency, Trump said, he's still amassed a strong 55 percent approval rating among American voters. "A new Rasmussen poll, in fact — because the people get it — much of the media doesn’t get it. They actually get it, but they don’t write it. Let’s put it that way. But a new Rasmussen poll just came out just a very short while ago, and it has our approval rating at 55 percent and going up," he boasted. Sure enough, the latest Rasmussen survey measures his job approval at that level. In fact, Rasmussen has tracked that number at north of 50 percent throughout the entire first month of Trump's presidency. That is one data point, but it's been a clear outlier in recent weeks. Democrats may be tempted to dismiss Rasmussen's findings entirely, but they should be reminded that the polling outfit nailed the 2016 election's final popular vote margin, at Hillary (+2). Nevertheless, virtually every other poll shows Trump currently underwater. But how far underwater? Skimming through Lefty twitter and watching evening newscasts last evening, most Trump detractors -- including almost the entire press -- are focusing on one of two surveys: Gallup or Pew Research. It's not hard to see why:




Pew actually has Trump dipping into the 30's already, with Gallup not far behind. A disaster, right? Definitely, but only if you ignore other polling. Trump has already highlighted the Rasmussen data, but Fox News' respected bipartisan polling firm also finds Trump's approval slightly right-side-up. Quite a departure from the first batch, no?


The most promising stat for the White House from Fox's numbers is that by a 20-point spread, Americans believe the US economy will be stronger one year from now than it is today. If that proves true, Trump will be in pretty solid political shape. A recent Morning Consult/Politico national poll gave Trump a positive (49/45) score. Finally, there are two other surveys that land somewhere in between the positive and negative poles mentioned above:


YouGov also finds a significant dip in the percentage of Americans who believe the country is headed in the wrong direction (though pessimism still dominates), while Reuters measures majority support for the president's handling of jobs and the economy. Two final points: First, the numbers that will matter most next fall are Trump's approval ratings in swing Congressional districts and states with key Senate races. On the latter front, the GOP will have a heavy advantage in terms of political turn. On the former, there's this little nugget reported by David Drucker based on a new survey conducted by a coalition of Republican pollsters:


Democrats led Republicans on the generic Congressional ballot 45 percent to 41 percent, a metric that will bear increased watching as the 2018 midterm elections approach. However, in seats being targeted by Democrats and Republicans at this stage, the GOP held the advantage, 46 percent to 43 percent.
If you're interested in how Trump is faring nationally, the numbers are all over the map. Your best bet is to check the RCP average (45/50), which ended up predicting the final margin in November within one point. But if you're interested in how the 2018 elections will turn out, it's way to early to know anything significant -- but keep an eye on Trump's standing in the contested Senate states and House districts
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ossobucotemp
 
  2  
Sun 19 Feb, 2017 05:17 pm
@blatham,
who did?

I've seen interest as mild for years. Maybe it has picked up.
blatham
 
  3  
Sun 19 Feb, 2017 05:43 pm
@ossobucotemp,
John
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ossobucotemp
 
  2  
Sun 19 Feb, 2017 05:45 pm
@blatham,
I have no clue what graphic designer made that.

Thank you to the person or crew.

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blatham
 
  3  
Sun 19 Feb, 2017 05:45 pm
Quote:
When the leaders of the Bolshevik movement—Lenin, Stalin, and the rest—used the term vrag naroda, an “enemy of the people,” it was an ominous epithet that encompassed a range of “wreckers” and “socially dangerous elements.” Enemies included clergy, intellectuals, monarchists, Trotskyists, “rootless cosmopolitans,” and well-to-do farmers.

...Robespierre, one of the architects of the Jacobin Reign of Terror, set out to “horrify” the opposition, and his instruments were the epithet, righteousness, and the blade. “The revolutionary government owes to the good citizen all the protection of the nation,” he said. “It owes nothing to the Enemies of the People but death.”

In 1917, the same year as the Bolshevik seizure of power, Vladimir Ilyich Lenin published an essay in Pravda called “Enemies of the People,” in which he lionized the Jacobin Terror as “instructive.”
New Yorker

Coincidence. Mere coincidence.
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layman
 
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Sun 19 Feb, 2017 05:52 pm
"There have been more than 1,000 references to “Watergate” in the news media in the last week, according to the Nexis archival site."

Heh.

Nice try, cheese-eaters.
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layman
 
  -1  
Sun 19 Feb, 2017 06:11 pm
Quote:
How Can We Get Rid of Trump?

NYT Sunday Review Nicholas Kristof FEB. 18, 2017


But what is striking about Trump is...allegations that Trump’s team may have cooperated with Vladimir Putin to steal the election.

...the cleanest and quickest way to remove a president involves Section 4 of the 25th Amendment and has never been attempted....The better known route is impeachment.

....what does it say about a presidency that, just one month into it, we’re already discussing whether it can be ended early?


I like the way this guy tries to make the left's hatred of Trump into the very reason he should be "impeached," eh?

"But what is striking about Trump is...allegations that Trump’s team may have cooperated with Vladimir Putin to steal the election."

These "may have allegations" are "striking about Trump!?" No, fraid not. They're striking about the left, not Trump. These cheese-eaters are truly desperate.

"what does it say about a presidency that, just one month into it, we’re already discussing whether it can be ended early?"

What does it say about Trump? Nothing, fool. But it sho nuff says a ton about your sorry ass.

Your headline makes your commie-ass agenda quite clear.

Nice try, cheese-eaters.
giujohn
 
  -1  
Sun 19 Feb, 2017 06:22 pm
@layman,
layman wrote:

Quote:
How Can We Get Rid of Trump?

NYT Sunday Review Nicholas Kristof FEB. 18, 2017


But what is striking about Trump is...allegations that Trump’s team may have cooperated with Vladimir Putin to steal the election.

...the cleanest and quickest way to remove a president involves Section 4 of the 25th Amendment and has never been attempted....The better known route is impeachment.

....what does it say about a presidency that, just one month into it, we’re already discussing whether it can be ended early?


I like the way this guy tries to make the left's hatred of Trump into the very reason he should be "impeached," eh?

"But what is striking about Trump is...allegations that Trump’s team may have cooperated with Vladimir Putin to steal the election."

These "may have allegations" are "striking about Trump!?" No, fraid not. They're striking about the left, not Trump. These cheese-eaters are truly desperate.

"what does it say about a presidency that, just one month into it, we’re already discussing whether it can be ended early?"

What does it say about Trump? Nothing, fool. But it sho nuff says a ton about your sorry ass.

Your headline makes your commie-ass agenda quite clear.

Nice try, cheese-eaters.



Just imagine if there were a news story like that for Obammy.
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layman
 
  0  
Sun 19 Feb, 2017 06:33 pm
Huffpo keeps on huffin, eh?

Quote:
Is The Impeachment Of Donald Trump Inescapable?

Suggesting that Mr. Trump face impeachment now, without unnecessary delay, is both fair to him and the American people....We cannot afford to have the Congress debating for months...

Impeachment should never be spoken of casually, and even as the Trump administration is but 21 days old, the danger to the rule of law that has emerged makes this call to proceed with a presidential grand jury as necessary as it is deeply troubling...

It is true that the interaction with the Russians so far disclosed does not prove beyond a reasonable doubt that either Mr. Flynn or others in the Trump campaign were colluding with the Russian nationals to do harm to Mrs. Clinton’s campaign and to the integrity of our election. Nevertheless, it has to be admitted that it sure looks that way.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/is-the-impeachment-of-donald-trump-inescapable_us_58a43a4ae4b0cd37efcfeecf

IMPEACHMENT NOW, I tellya!

Huff on, cheese-eaters

Anyone happen to recall how OUTRAGED these cheese-eaters were, talking about the imminent destruction of democracy, and ****, when Trump said he would wait and see whether he would contest the election results?

First it was alleging russian "election theft." Then it was a recount. Then it was an all-out campaign to convince electoral college votes to betray their constituents. Now, of course, it's impeachment, if not a cabinet coup.

Actually, I think the main "solution" I see being proposed by these graciously-losing, democracy-loving cheese-eaters is simple assassination.
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layman
 
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Sun 19 Feb, 2017 07:11 pm
I'm sure that, somewhere in the constitution, it says that a president will be impeached, automatically convicted, and immediately removed from office if you can round up the signatures of a million haters on one petition, eh? It's a done deal, I tellya!

Quote:
Petition To Impeach Trump Nearly One Million Strong

President Donald Trump is facing a mounting movement to have him impeached. Almost 1 million people have signed a petition to Congress to remove him from office.

According to the International Business Times, Americans who look unfavorably upon the administration's policies, such as the travel ban and the wall on the border with Mexico, have signed the petition.


http://www.opposingviews.com/i/politics/donald-trump-just-got-some-really-bad-news-about-his-possible-impeachment

There ya have it, then, eh? Over ONE MILLION people "look unfavorably upon the administration's policies." What else ya want?

IMPEACHMENT NOW!!!
camlok
 
  -1  
Sun 19 Feb, 2017 07:33 pm
@layman,
layman: I'm sure that, somewhere in the constitution, it says that a president will be impeached, automatically convicted, and immediately removed from office if you can round up the signatures of a million haters on one petition, eh? It's a done deal, I tellya!

==============

No, but it does say this:

"In the United States the right to petition is guaranteed by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, which specifically prohibits Congress from abridging "the right of the people...to petition the Government for a redress of grievances".

Why do you hate the Constitution?
layman
 
  1  
Sun 19 Feb, 2017 07:41 pm
@camlok,
camlok wrote:
"In the United States the right to petition is guaranteed by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, which specifically prohibits Congress from abridging "the right of the people...to petition the Government for a redress of grievances".


Yeah, petitions, they ROCK, sho nuff.

As I recall, NAMBLA collected over 2 million signatures on a petition DEMANDING that all states eliminate all "age of consent" requirements. Either that, or reduce the age to two years old.

Such laws were passed by conservatives who sought to criminalize "love," can't ya see? Typical fascists, sho nuff, trying to take away a person's natural right to speak for himself. Every kid age 2 or above knows how to say "no."
layman
 
  0  
Sun 19 Feb, 2017 07:57 pm
Quote:
Leftists on social media tore into First Lady Melania Trump, mocking her accent and religion and branding her everything from a hostage to a whore – all for the secular offense of reciting “The Lord’s Prayer.”


Just when a punk-ass bitch is saying to himself: "I'm sure they all see how brilliant I am now," that's when everybody and his brother is saying to himself: "Could this guy get a little more punkier, ya think? I mean, like, would that be possible, ya figure?"

Keep on truckin, cheese-eaters. You're winning!
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giujohn
 
  0  
Sun 19 Feb, 2017 07:58 pm
@layman,
layman wrote:

I'm sure that, somewhere in the constitution, it says that a president will be impeached, automatically convicted, and immediately removed from office if you can round up the signatures of a million haters on one petition, eh? It's a done deal, I tellya!

Quote:
Petition To Impeach Trump Nearly One Million Strong

President Donald Trump is facing a mounting movement to have him impeached. Almost 1 million people have signed a petition to Congress to remove him from office.

According to the International Business Times, Americans who look unfavorably upon the administration's policies, such as the travel ban and the wall on the border with Mexico, have signed the petition.


http://www.opposingviews.com/i/politics/donald-trump-just-got-some-really-bad-news-about-his-possible-impeachment

There ya have it, then, eh? Over ONE MILLION people "look unfavorably upon the administration's policies." What else ya want?

IMPEACHMENT NOW!!!


NOW I WONDER HOW MANY OF THOSE SIGNITURES WERE FROM SOME OF THE 2 MILLION ILLEGAL ALIENS WHO VOTED AGAINST HIM?
layman
 
  0  
Sun 19 Feb, 2017 08:02 pm
@giujohn,
giujohn wrote:

NOW I WONDER HOW MANY OF THOSE SIGNITURES WERE FROM SOME OF THE 2 MILLION ILLEGAL ALIENS WHO VOTED AGAINST HIM?


Yeah, John, what's really pissing the left off is that 90% of the illegal aliens in this country are now in hiding, completely incommunicado. Otherwise they could easily have had 10 million signatures.
 

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