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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
revelette3
 
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Reply Sun 22 Nov, 2020 10:19 am
A new lawsuit alleges Trump’s effort to overturn Michigan’s election results disenfranchises Black voters

Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 22 Nov, 2020 10:38 am
https://i.imgur.com/J7Z5mcK.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/U4GFBZz.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/NdgiYKw.jpg
snood
 
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Reply Sun 22 Nov, 2020 11:07 am
I just thought it was worth repeating - they’ve lost Chris Christie.

Governor Christie Calls Trump Team National Embarrassment

https://www.axios.com/trump-election-results-chris-christie-c84377d5-cf08-4120-9508-eae50d850fad.html
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snood
 
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Reply Sun 22 Nov, 2020 11:14 am
Republican Governor of Maryland Larry Hogan Says Time for Trump to Concede

https://www.newsweek.com/marylands-gop-governor-hogan-says-time-has-come-trump-concede-1547799


Drip, drip, drip..,
coldjoint
 
  0  
Reply Sun 22 Nov, 2020 11:24 am
@snood,
snood wrote:

Republican Governor of Maryland Larry Hogan Says Time for Trump to Concede

https://www.newsweek.com/marylands-gop-governor-hogan-says-time-has-come-trump-concede-1547799


Drip, drip, drip..,

Hogan does not make that decision, Trump does. In other words, his ass sucks cotton wood.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 22 Nov, 2020 11:29 am
In this video around 2:30 the indefinite confinement claims for absentee ballots in WI is discussed. Usually a thousand or less are requested. In this election over 200,000 were. That is a clear reason to investigate. We are looking at fraud.

Of course someone is welcome to explain the 199,000 increase.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 22 Nov, 2020 11:32 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

https://i.imgur.com/J7Z5mcK.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/U4GFBZz.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/NdgiYKw.jpg

An intelligent guy like sinking to level of a common troll. How the mighty have fallen. Shocked
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 22 Nov, 2020 11:35 am
@revelette3,

The race card. If the votes were illegal the color of the voter does not matter. You people are the racists.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 22 Nov, 2020 11:37 am
@coldjoint,
Thanks for re-posting!
I guess, regarding your response, you didn't watch the G20 conference .
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 22 Nov, 2020 11:48 am
Quote:
Sidney Powell Tells Newsmax TV: Election Fraud Cases We File This Week 'Will Be Biblical'

I do not think many here are familiar with the Bible. But they probably know when the name is invoked like this it means something very big is coming.
Quote:
Among the most explosive claims Powell alluded to, as provided by Newsmax:

Biden votes being “weighted” at 1.25 times and Trump votes being parsed at 3/4.

Algorithms that gave Democrats 35,000 extra votes.

Modifications made to voting machines after statutory cutoff dates for changes.

Past election victories, including Hillary Clinton’s primary victory over Bernie Sanders, being forced-decided by Dominion Voting Systems.

Alleged pay-for-play kick backs to public officials, potentially even Georgia GOP Gov. Kemp for a late grant to use Dominion Voting Systems.

If she proves this it is over for Biden. Georgia only being the first state she will destroy.
https://redstate.com/mike_miller/2020/11/22/sidney-powell-tells-newsmax-tv-election-fraud-cases-we-file-this-week-will-be-biblical-n283517
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 22 Nov, 2020 12:04 pm
Quote:
Israeli duo’s early Alzheimer’s detection test brings cure one step closer

Think Biden can get a discount?
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-duos-early-alzheimers-detection-test-brings-cure-one-step-closer/
revelette3
 
  3  
Reply Sun 22 Nov, 2020 12:07 pm
@snood,
I think it is time for Trump to be removed from office for dereliction of duty.

While the country's COVID keeps mounting all Trump is doing in his last days office is filing lawsuits, tweeting baseless accusations and playing golf. Oh I forgot, he is also striking down more environmental laws, I guess to let off steam. What is he is going to do next to let off steam? It scary to think he still has access the nuclear bomb button and other national security information. No telling what he'll think up next in his baby hissy fit.

Trump Pushes New Environmental Rollbacks On Way Out The Door
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revelette3
 
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Reply Sun 22 Nov, 2020 12:17 pm
In a scathing ruling, U.S. District Court Judge Matthew Brann criticized the Trump campaign's lack of evidence to support its argument to potentially disenfranchise every voter in the commonwealth who cast a ballot – nearly 7 million.

Brann noted that the less-than-2-week-old case developed a "tortured procedural history" that included a parade of lawyers for the campaign, shifting legal arguments to avoid clashing with a federal appeals court ruling and an eleventh-hour motion to delay a hearing.

Brann wrote that the lone legal claim left standing – an alleged violation of the U.S. Constitution's equal protection clause – was like "Frankenstein’s Monster ... haphazardly stitched together" from two legal theories.

The ruling entirely dismissed the case filed by Trump's campaign and two Republican voters who said their ballots were rejected for technicalities, while those with similar flaws cast by thousands of voters in the state's Democratic strongholds were accepted. The decision specifically denied permission to amend the allegations.

"This Court has been unable to find any case in which a plaintiff has sought such a drastic remedy in the contest of an election, in terms of the sheer volume of votes asked to be invalidated," Brann wrote in the 37-page decision.

"One might expect that when seeking such a startling outcome, a plaintiff would come formidably armed with compelling legal arguments and factual proof of rampant corruption," he wrote. "Instead, this court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations ... unsupported by evidence.

"In the United States of America, this cannot justify the disenfranchisement of a single voter, let alone all the voters of its sixth most populated state."

The decision slams the door on a pivotal case in Trump's faltering effort to get courts to overturn election results in states he lost to former Vice President Joe Biden. It came two days before Pennsylvania's Monday deadline to certify its results, a precursor to formally awarding the state's 20 electoral votes to Biden.

A state canvassing board in Michigan, which Biden carried, is scheduled to vote on certifying its totals Monday. Friday, a judge in Arizona dismissed the final case there that was related to the presidential race.

The Trump campaign faced an uphill battle throughout the closely watched case, which included arguments similar to those in lawsuits filed in other presidential campaign battleground states. Without supplying any witness affidavits or other evidence, the campaign argued that tens of thousands of mail-in ballots should have been rejected for defects but were accepted in a process that blocked meaningful oversight by Republican observers.

Shifting arguments, parade of lawyers
Trump lawyers initially launched a legal broadside against mail voting, arguing that Pennsylvania's secretary of the commonwealth and elections officials in seven counties with high Democratic Party enrollment created an unconstitutional, two-tiered voting system.

The campaign argued that in-person voters, who largely voted for Trump, had to abide by strictly enforced rules. People who voted by mail, who largely cast their ballots for Biden, were subject to lax rules, the campaign argued.

The campaign shifted focus in an amended complaint that was filed as one team of lawyers departed and another entered – and as the federal appeals court decision in a different case blocked use of certain constitutional arguments.

The second complaint focused on allegations that elections officials improperly placed Republican watchers so far from mail ballot processing that they couldn't detect any improprieties. In addressing that argument, Brann wrote that Trump's lawyers failed to show that Democratic observers got access that Republicans didn't.

The revision challenged the so-called ballot curing process that the Trump campaign said improperly enabled elections officials in Democratic areas to contact and assist mail voters who had made mistakes on their ballots.

Brann's ruling said that although a Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruling did not require county election boards to contact those voters so they could fix their ballots, the state high court "declined to explicitly answer whether such a policy is necessarily forbidden."

Shortly before a hearing Tuesday, Rudy Giuliani, Trump's personal lawyer and a former New York City mayor, entered the case. The legal strategy changed yet again. This time, the Trump campaign combined many of the legal arguments of the prior complaints in a proposed third version. The lawyers accused the state's secretary of the commonwealth and elections officials in seven Democrat-heavy counties of scheming to help elect Biden.

The proposed third complaint urged the federal court to disqualify millions of ballots, which would have wiped out the 81,813-vote edge Biden held in Pennsylvania as of Saturday night. Giuliani argued that the campaign did not want to disqualify every mail ballot.

Brann didn't even consider the third version of the lawsuit because it would have further delayed the case as the state faced its deadline to certify the results.

Legal experts panned case from the beginning
Nine legal experts surveyed by USA TODAY criticized the Trump campaign's initial lawsuit, saying courts are reluctant to invalidate ballots cast by voters who followed what they believed to be the election rules.

The campaign's allegations didn't raise constitutional questions, the experts said, and mail voting is legal and used in many states beyond Pennsylvania.

Their criticism sharpened as the Trump campaign lawsuit proceeded through legal twists and turns.

“I have never seen a high-profile case like this cycle through so many sets of lawyers so quickly, nor a high-profile election case not handled by election law and federal court and appeals court specialists,” Richard Hasen, a professor of law and political science at the University of California-Irvine, and the author of Election Law Blog, wrote in an email.

“The claims are both legally and factually faulty," Hasen wrote.

Kermit Roosevelt, a constitutional law expert at the University of Pennsylvania Law School, said the Trump campaign is "sending the message that election outcomes that go against Republicans are inherently illegitimate and need not be accepted – even if there is no evidence and no plausible legal argument that anything was wrong with the election."
McGentrix
 
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Reply Sun 22 Nov, 2020 12:38 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

neptuneblue wrote:

Ok, I see.

The judges you've thrown under the table are now suddenly your savior.



Under the table is Kamala's job.


Very Happy
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blatham
 
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Reply Sun 22 Nov, 2020 12:41 pm
Jesus christ! I just viewed the dangoodspeed.com graphic on covid cases by state from June 1 through now. Red states absolutely dominate. And that's no surprise given the GOP denial of the pandemic and its broad rejection of steps to mitigate (such as mask wearing). Take a look!

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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sun 22 Nov, 2020 01:03 pm
@coldjoint,
No cognitive decline on biden
s part. he's proving it by the cogency of his transition plans and for his first few days in office. Woldn't say the same for trump. His loss seems to have hit his cognition and emotional maturity a near fatal blow. the sooner he leaves for florida for good the better for the country
BillW
 
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Reply Sun 22 Nov, 2020 01:37 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:

No cognitive decline on biden
s part. he's proving it by the cogency of his transition plans and for his first few days in office. Woldn't say the same for trump. His loss seems to have hit his cognition and emotional maturity a near fatal blow. the sooner he leaves for florida for good the better for the country

Not that the theRump had much going for him even on his best days......
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snood
 
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Reply Sun 22 Nov, 2020 01:42 pm
My impression is that Trump knows it's over, and everything that him and his elite team are doing now is the equivalent of turning over the game board and scattering the pieces as far and wide as they can - just like a petulant child - just out of spite. If there's any method to their madness at this point, all I can figure is they are trying to stall for time because they don't have a next move.

Trump must be pissing his pants, realizing that he really lost to "sleepy "Joe Biden - and lost huge. From what we know of his personality and his upbringing, being perceived as a loser is worse than death for him. And also beginning to contemplate what his life is going to be like with all the people that are sharpening their blades for him, and just waiting for him not to be protected by the shield of the presidency.

https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2020-trump-faces-lawsuits-and-legal-threats/

Some snippets from the above cited article:

Quote:
Whatever shelters he has had as an occupant of the White House would vanish,” says Laurence Tribe, a constitutional law professor at Harvard and frequent Trump critic. “His ability to throw his weight around in terms of the deference that judges exercise—all of that is gone.”
...

When Trump loses, the prohibition against indicting the president would no longer apply, and a Biden Justice Department would theoretically be free to revive the Mueller obstruction investigation and bring charges against Trump.
...

New York Attorney General Letitia James is investigating whether the Trump family’s real-estate company falsely reported property values to secure loans or tax benefits.

...

Trump has long been able to argue that he’s too busy as president to deal with lawsuits, and courts have generally given him broad deference as head of the federal government’s executive branch. He would not get that deference as a former president and could be forced to sit for a deposition.
...

Trump and three of his children were sued for fraud in 2018 over their endorsement on Celebrity Apprentice of ACN Opportunity LLC, a troubled multilevel marketing company that later went bust.
When Trump loses, it would become easier for the investors’ lawyers to request documents from Trump or even force him to testify at a potential trial. Judges would be less likely to defer to Trump’s wishes, and Trump would be unable to cite his responsibilities as president as an excuse for not complying.
Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Sun 22 Nov, 2020 01:50 pm
Trump privately plots his next act — including a potential 2024 run

Quote:
President Trump would have the world falsely believe that he won the election and is preparing for a second term.

In private huddles and phone conversations, however, Trump has been discussing an entirely different next act: another presidential run in 2024.

In a nod to the reality that he is destined to leave office in January, the president is seriously contemplating life beyond the White House, telling advisers that he wants to remain an omnipresent force in politics and the media — perhaps by running for the White House again.

Trump has told confidants he could announce a 2024 campaign before the end of this year, which would immediately set up a potential rematch with President-elect Joe Biden.

Trump also has been exploring ways to make money for relatively little work, such as giving paid speeches to corporate groups or selling tickets to rallies. In addition, he may try to write a score-settling memoir of his time as president and appear on television, in a paid or unpaid capacity.

Though there has also been considerable chatter among Trump’s associates about his starting a media company of his own, many close to the president said they believe that option is less likely, in part because it would be an arduous undertaking without guaranteed success. These advisers, like some others interviewed for this story, spoke on the condition of anonymity to candidly discuss sensitive topics.

There is also pressure on Trump to monetize his post-presidency in light of his personal debt and legal troubles. He has payments due over the next four years of more than $400 million in loans and could incur substantial legal fees related to a number of investigations and lawsuits.

....

“I do think if he’s not declared the winner he’ll make it clear he’s running again in 2024,” a senior Trump campaign official said.

“He would be remaining as the head of the Republican Party, whether there’s a formal title that goes with that or not,” this official added, noting that there were a few legal options under consideration to fund Trump’s future political endeavors, including a leadership political action committee.

Republicans both privately and publicly worry that Trump — who has shown little affinity toward his chosen party and largely appears to act almost exclusively in his self-interest — could be more likely to play a meddling and damaging role than a helpful one.

“If you let a sickness continue without treatment, you don’t get better,” Steele said. “You just get sicker.”

For instance, Trump has done little so far to help Republicans in two hotly contested Senate runoff elections in Georgia in early January that will determine which party controls the upper chamber. And the president’s continued attacks on Georgia Republican officials and baseless allegations of fraud in the Peach State risk undermining faith in the election and depressing GOP turnout.

Aides expect Trump may want to stage rallies in his post-presidency, noting that speaking at rallies was his favorite part of being president because he fed off the energy of his boisterous crowds.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-2024-rematch/2020/11/21/58ce87ac-2a8d-11eb-8fa2-06e7cbb145c0_story.html
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sun 22 Nov, 2020 01:56 pm
@coldjoint,
Pretty sure she talks big but carries a toothpick. Highly doubtful any of this conspiracy theory stuff is gonna pan out.
 

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