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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
farmerman
 
  4  
Sat 21 Nov, 2020 09:09 am
@Builder,
Quote:

You're **** at building strawman arguments.
Im not building ANY strawman arguments. What I speak is documented FACT. The one thing your hero is good at is keeping video records and tweets. Hes kinda like a fascist. They kept excellent records of their crimes.

Trump is now speaking about "giving up" in order to not harm any of the GOP runfoofs for Senate.

What a fuckin liar, hes been looking for some way to not look like hes a sorry ass loser
farmerman
 
  3  
Sat 21 Nov, 2020 09:11 am
@Rebelofnj,
Im amazed at how goddam stupid his attorneys are.
blatham
 
  2  
Sat 21 Nov, 2020 09:30 am
@Frank Apisa,
I've heard that as well. Also sloth (and they're easier to catch).

Here's another genius we should attend to
Quote:
Rick Hasen, Mr. Practicing Attorney
@rickhasen
10h
Larry Klayman: “I predict that Biden will be dead within six months, at which time a total socialist/communist takeover will be in full swing.”
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revelette3
 
  2  
Sat 21 Nov, 2020 09:31 am
@farmerman,
It does provide him with a face saving device while keeping the conspiracies alive which harm our nation's trust in our elections. But I wish he would give up completely and allow Biden's transition to be normalized.
blatham
 
  0  
Sat 21 Nov, 2020 09:32 am
@farmerman,
Quote:
Im amazed at how goddam stupid his attorneys are.


Here's a group photo. No masks, of course
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EnWqHi0XEAI0IYw?format=jpg&name=900x900
blatham
 
  1  
Sat 21 Nov, 2020 09:46 am
Attend to the chiron.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EnTzVr_WEAI1t3B?format=jpg&name=900x900

Aside from the four years of "Lock her up!" chants at Trump rallies, here the 11 times Trump threatened to put Hillary Clinton in prison

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farmerman
 
  2  
Sat 21 Nov, 2020 10:00 am
@blatham,
I was gonna post one of the MArx Brothers. STooges (with the original Curly) is obviously a superior choice in identifying Trump's barristers and solicitors
blatham
 
  0  
Sat 21 Nov, 2020 10:06 am
@farmerman,
No contest.
blatham
 
  2  
Sat 21 Nov, 2020 10:23 am

Quote:
Asymptomatic Coup Survivor
@pennslinger
· Nov 19
Earlier this year, Lisa Nelson from ALEC admitted that the organization was planning to undermine the integrity of the election if Trump were to lose.

https://huffpost.com/entry/alec-challenge-trump-loss-corporations_n_5f99cf20c5b61d63241ee6dd


Quote:
A powerful corporate-funded right-wing organization that includes state legislators and lobbyists was already mobilizing early this year to overturn a possible election loss by President Donald Trump, according to a videotape of an official discussing the plan.

“Obviously we all want President Trump to win,” said Lisa Nelson, chair of the controversial American Legislative Exchange Council, which was responsible for getting the at-times-lethal “Stand your ground” laws enacted in several states.

“Really what it comes down to is the states and the state legislators,” Nelson noted in remarks in February, recorded in a videotape obtained by Documented, a watchdog group that tracks corporate influence on public policy.

Nelson and three Republican attorneys were already drafting letters then “questioning the validity” of a Trump loss that state legislator members of ALEC could submit to local officials to challenge the ballots.

“They can write a letter to the secretary of state questioning the validity of an election and saying what did happen that night,” Nelson told an election strategy session of the conservative Council for National Policy (see the video above). “So we are drafting a lot of those things ... they can start to ... exercise their political muscle in that area.”

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blatham
 
  1  
Sat 21 Nov, 2020 10:34 am
Quote:
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
· Feb 3, 2016
Ted Cruz didn't win Iowa, he stole it. That is why all of the polls were so wrong and why he got far more votes than anticipated. Bad!


Episode 97412 in the "Modern Republicans are just jam-packed with honesty, integrity and principle" story of our times.
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Frank Apisa
 
  2  
Sat 21 Nov, 2020 11:04 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

Im amazed at how goddam stupid his attorneys are.


I am amazed at the size of the universe.

I'm not sure how to describe how I feel about how goddam stupid his attorneys are.

Like I said earlier, Giuliani defended a guy for a parking ticket...and got him off with just two years at Attica.
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Rebelofnj
 
  2  
Sat 21 Nov, 2020 11:29 am
Justice Dept. meets Trump, Giuliani vote-fraud claims with silent skepticism

Quote:
The Justice Department has met President Trump’s fantastical claims of widespread voter fraud with two weeks of skeptical silence, not taking any overt moves to investigate what Trump’s lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, claims is a globe-spanning conspiracy to steal the election.

Such deafening silence from one of the government’s main enforcers of election law indicates just how little evidence there is to support the wild, wide-ranging claims made by Trump and his supporters, most notably Giuliani in a Thursday news conference held inside the Republican National Committee headquarters.

Privately, Justice Department officials have said they are willing to investigate legitimate claims of vote fraud; Attorney General William P. Barr even loosened some restrictions that might otherwise have discouraged prosecutors from doing so before results are certified.

But current and former officials said they thought Giuliani’s accusations sounded “crazy,” and they have not seen or heard of any evidence suggesting large-scale fraud, let alone the kind of intercontinental conspiracy described by the president’s lawyer. Like others, they spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a politically sensitive matter.

A Justice Department spokeswoman declined to comment.
....
Federal law enforcement officials have also said they want to avoid getting dragged into investigations that lack any reasonable basis of suspicion. In many of the affidavits cited by Giuliani and other Republicans, the assertions amount to ill-defined suspicions and conjecture about what might have happened, not witness accounts of actual misconduct.

In a handful of instances, the Justice Department has quietly signaled it is reviewing allegations that have been brought to the department, but even in those instances, federal officials have found little evidence of wrongdoing, people familiar with the matter say.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/trump-giuliani-election-fraud-justice-department/2020/11/21/223eb074-2b8f-11eb-92b7-6ef17b3fe3b4_story.html
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sat 21 Nov, 2020 11:35 am
@Rebelofnj,
Rebelofnj wrote:

Justice Dept. meets Trump, Giuliani vote-fraud claims with silent skepticism

Quote:
The Justice Department has met President Trump’s fantastical claims of widespread voter fraud with two weeks of skeptical silence, not taking any overt moves to investigate what Trump’s lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, claims is a globe-spanning conspiracy to steal the election.

Such deafening silence from one of the government’s main enforcers of election law indicates just how little evidence there is to support the wild, wide-ranging claims made by Trump and his supporters, most notably Giuliani in a Thursday news conference held inside the Republican National Committee headquarters.

Privately, Justice Department officials have said they are willing to investigate legitimate claims of vote fraud; Attorney General William P. Barr even loosened some restrictions that might otherwise have discouraged prosecutors from doing so before results are certified.

But current and former officials said they thought Giuliani’s accusations sounded “crazy,” and they have not seen or heard of any evidence suggesting large-scale fraud, let alone the kind of intercontinental conspiracy described by the president’s lawyer. Like others, they spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a politically sensitive matter.

A Justice Department spokeswoman declined to comment.
....
Federal law enforcement officials have also said they want to avoid getting dragged into investigations that lack any reasonable basis of suspicion. In many of the affidavits cited by Giuliani and other Republicans, the assertions amount to ill-defined suspicions and conjecture about what might have happened, not witness accounts of actual misconduct.

In a handful of instances, the Justice Department has quietly signaled it is reviewing allegations that have been brought to the department, but even in those instances, federal officials have found little evidence of wrongdoing, people familiar with the matter say.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/trump-giuliani-election-fraud-justice-department/2020/11/21/223eb074-2b8f-11eb-92b7-6ef17b3fe3b4_story.html

Quote:
Like others, they spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a politically sensitive matter.

There is no reason to believe the WP says about anything political. They are liars, have been caught lying, and they continue to lie.
hightor
 
  4  
Sat 21 Nov, 2020 11:52 am
@coldjoint,
Oh, look who's showed up for his/her daily dose of humiliation!

Quote:
They are liars, have been caught lying, and they continue to lie.


Okay. Then show us a story where the Justice Department is actually investigating Giuliani's claims of a globe-spanning conspiracy and your accusations of dishonesty might be believable.
Rebelofnj
 
  2  
Sat 21 Nov, 2020 12:05 pm
@coldjoint,
As a reminder, The Trump Campaign has less than 4 hours to stop the governor of Georgia from officially certifying the state's election results, so they should really release whatever evidence you think they have.
MontereyJack
 
  0  
Sat 21 Nov, 2020 12:08 pm
@coldjoint,
joint once again goes on a factless rant. Nothing new there.
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coldjoint
 
  0  
Sat 21 Nov, 2020 12:21 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

Oh, look who's showed up for his/her daily dose of humiliation!

Quote:
They are liars, have been caught lying, and they continue to lie.


Okay. Then show us a story where the Justice Department is actually investigating Giuliani's claims of a globe-spanning conspiracy and your accusations of dishonesty might be believable.

That humiliation is non existent except in your mind. You should not be humiliated you should be ashamed.

But while you are here could you tell me how Joe Biden became the most popular candidate in our history? Has overwhelming charisma, more than Obama? His razor sharp mind and eloquent oration? His youth?

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coldjoint
 
  0  
Sat 21 Nov, 2020 12:25 pm
@Rebelofnj,
Quote:
Sidney Powell will save the nation ‘within the next two weeks’

I can wait two weeks. Let's hope Powell stays alive that long.
Quote:
But when Bartiromo asked Powell what the “most stunning, most egregious” piece of evidence the campaign has, Powell referred to a young military officer “who saw it all done and was there when it was created.”


“We’ve got all kinds of evidence that is mathematically irrefutable by experts, including three professors at Princeton, and it all proves the same thing, the evidence of individual poll watchers who saw votes come in, saw the machines manipulated,” she added.

There is no reason to doubt Sidney Powell. Her entire reputation and career are on the line. The fact that her claims are so bold is an indicator that she is fully confident in the end result: Reelection for President Trump. We should be just as confident.

So certifications will mean nothing when fraud is proven. So Kemp can certify anything he wants.

https://noqreport.com/2020/11/20/sidney-powell-will-save-the-nation-within-the-next-two-weeks/
Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Sat 21 Nov, 2020 12:25 pm
Meanwhile, Trump has left the (virtual) G20 Summit early. After less than two hours on video, he drove to one of his golf courses, according to accompanying journalists.
Earlier in his speech, participants said he praised the US approach to the corona crisis and said that US companies Moderna and Pfizer had developed vaccines. (Of course, he did not mention Pfizer's German partner Biontech.)
But Trump told the G20 leaders that he wants U.S. citizens to be the first to receive vaccinations against coronavirus.

Trump was temporarily represented by Secretary of the Treasury Steven Mnuchin and his economic adviser Larry Kudlow

Extracts from a draft final declaration state that the group will do everything possible to contain the pandemic and protect lives, jobs and incomes. At the same time, the 20 developed and emerging economies warn that the global economic recovery remains "uneven, highly uncertain" and is fraught with "increased downside risks".
Diplomats involved in drafting the text said that so far the U.S. was supporting the climate change language — a remarkable shift for Trump, who in previous years has fought hard against such language.
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coldjoint
 
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Sat 21 Nov, 2020 12:36 pm
Quote:
Our Braveheart Moment
It's not about one man. It's about freedom.


Quote:
Perhaps the most gut-wrenching scene in Braveheart occurs when William Wallace discovers he has been betrayed by a man he thought of as a friend. The heartbreak on Wallace’s face is far more terrible than the torture Wallace would later suffer. You expect brutality from your enemies, but not from your friends.

Robert the Bruce had done what was politically expedient at the moment. Betraying Wallace — and his own heart — increased his chances of becoming Scotland’s king.

Right now, a lot of people are doing what is political expedient to rid themselves of a brash, unorthodox, charismatic, fearless leader who was overturning the status quo. We know his enemies. They have been swinging swords at his head, clubs at his knees, using every means, legal and illegal, to take him out for five years. Right now, they are engaged in an extremely brazen effort to steal an election from him.

Oh, don’t give me your “baseless allegations” garbage. You know it, and I know it. You saw it happen with your own eyes. You know it in your gut. And if you’ve closed your eyes to the mounting evidence, failed to research it yourself, failed to be honest with yourself, that’s on you.

What he said. That is an American.
https://stream.org/our-braveheart-moment/
 

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