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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Fri 20 Nov, 2020 09:58 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:

Show me some proof that there were mass ballots with only presidential votes. You seem very certain there were a lot of them . You must have seen some concrete receipts that show that?

Quote:
Attorney Sidney Powell Drops Massive Bomb: "We've Identified 450,000 Ballots That Miraculously Only Have a Vote For Joe Biden"

https://trendingpolitics.com/attorney-sidney-powell-drops-massive-bomb-we-ve-identified-45-ballots-that-miraculously-only-have-a-vote-for-joe-biden/
snood
 
  3  
Fri 20 Nov, 2020 09:59 pm
What happened was, more people voted in the 2020 election than had ever voted before. What happened was, more people voted for Biden - a lot more - than voted for Trump.

You guys are all wrapped around the axle because a lot of people that voted for other republicans on the ticket just didn’t vote for Trump .

Here’s an article about people in PA that wanted the republicans down ballot, but didn’t support Trump. It’s the very simple, Occam’s razor explanation for why Trump didn’t get the votes that a lot of down ballot Republicans got.

https://whyy.org/articles/they-rejected-trump-but-stuck-with-republicans-down-ballot-meet-pa-s-ticket-splitters/


And, since you Trumpophiles are the ones making accusations - the burden is on YOU to prove it, not on the people you’re accusing to disprove it.

Biden/Harris 1/20/21
snood
 
  3  
Fri 20 Nov, 2020 10:05 pm
@coldjoint,
I read the article. So, if Sidney Powell says she has seen ‘em, that should be the end of it. All she has to do is SHOW PROOF.

Did you know that every time Trump’s lawyers have been asked point blank in court if they are alleging mass voter fraud, they say NO?

Do you know why the only place anyone ever makes these claims is on tv shows and social media, but not in court? BECAUSE THEY DON’T HAVE ANY PROOF!

Try again.
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Fri 20 Nov, 2020 10:13 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:

What happened was, more people voted in the 2020 election than had ever voted before. What happened was, more people voted for Biden - a lot more - than voted for Trump.

You guys are all wrapped around the axle because a lot of people that voted for other republicans on the ticket just didn’t vote for Trump .

Here’s an article about people in PA that wanted the republicans down ballot, but didn’t support Trump. It’s the very simple, Occam’s razor explanation for why Trump didn’t get the votes that a lot of down ballot Republicans got.

https://whyy.org/articles/they-rejected-trump-but-stuck-with-republicans-down-ballot-meet-pa-s-ticket-splitters/


And, since you Trumpophiles are the ones making accusations - the burden is on YOU to prove it, not on the people you’re accusing to disprove it.

Biden/Harris 1/20/21

So what you are saying is the integrity of our elections mean nothing to the Democrats. We knew that already.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Fri 20 Nov, 2020 10:15 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:

I read the article. So, if Sidney Powell says she has seen ‘em, that should be the end of it. All she has to do is SHOW PROOF.

Did you know that every time Trump’s lawyers have been asked point blank in court if they are alleging mass voter fraud, they say NO?

Do you know why the only place anyone ever makes these claims is on tv shows and social media, but not in court? BECAUSE THEY DON’T HAVE ANY PROOF!

Try again.

She has affidavits of people who saw them. That is all the proof she needs. They are from every swing state and many other states. You try again.
snood
 
  2  
Fri 20 Nov, 2020 10:21 pm
@coldjoint,
No, that’s NOT what I’m saying - it’s among the many whacky things that YOU are saying.

Stop shooting off your mouth about all this fraud until you or Trump’s elite strike force can SHOW SOME PROOF.

Biden/Harris 1/20/21
snood
 
  3  
Fri 20 Nov, 2020 10:29 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

snood wrote:

I read the article. So, if Sidney Powell says she has seen ‘em, that should be the end of it. All she has to do is SHOW PROOF.

Did you know that every time Trump’s lawyers have been asked point blank in court if they are alleging mass voter fraud, they say NO?

Do you know why the only place anyone ever makes these claims is on tv shows and social media, but not in court? BECAUSE THEY DON’T HAVE ANY PROOF!

Try again.



She has affidavits of people who saw them. That is all the proof she needs. They are from every swing state and many other states. You try again.


Very weak. If that was all the proof she needed, it would be enough proof fir the judges to say that mass fraud occurred. Either she’s not showing this “proof”, or they’re not buying it.

By the way, I’m not a lawyer, but saying something is true just because you know of someone not in court who said it’s true (even if they write down “I saw it” and call it an affidavit) - that’s pretty Webster’s definition hearsay. Not admissible.

And if you say it is valid proof, I repeat - they should have been able to get favorable rulings in court. They haven’t.

Try harder.

Biden/Harris 1/20/21
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Fri 20 Nov, 2020 10:29 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:

No, that’s NOT what I’m saying - it’s among the many whacky things that YOU are saying.

Stop shooting off your mouth about all this fraud until you or Trump’s elite strike force can SHOW SOME PROOF.

Biden/Harris 1/20/21

Quote:
Stop shooting off your mouth about all this fraud

There might be someone out there that listens to you, and I pity them. I am not one of those people. Stop reading my posts. Go to your safe space and put your head between your knees until you can handle reality.
snood
 
  3  
Fri 20 Nov, 2020 10:33 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

snood wrote:

No, that’s NOT what I’m saying - it’s among the many whacky things that YOU are saying.

Stop shooting off your mouth about all this fraud until you or Trump’s elite strike force can SHOW SOME PROOF.


Biden/Harris 1/20/21

Quote:
Stop shooting off your mouth about all this fraud

There might be someone out there that listens to you, and I pity them. I am not one of those people. Stop reading my posts. Go to your safe space and put your head between your knees until you can handle reality.


I understand. Too much truth is too rough for you. You wouldn’t know reality if it beat your candidate by 6 million votes and 72 electoral votes.

😃
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Fri 20 Nov, 2020 10:40 pm

He says the statistical evidence can be presented in court as evidence. They are getting it ready and fraud will be proven by science kicking the party of science to the curb or prison.
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Fri 20 Nov, 2020 10:43 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:

coldjoint wrote:

snood wrote:

No, that’s NOT what I’m saying - it’s among the many whacky things that YOU are saying.

Stop shooting off your mouth about all this fraud until you or Trump’s elite strike force can SHOW SOME PROOF.


Biden/Harris 1/20/21

Quote:
Stop shooting off your mouth about all this fraud

There might be someone out there that listens to you, and I pity them. I am not one of those people. Stop reading my posts. Go to your safe space and put your head between your knees until you can handle reality.


I understand. Too much truth is too rough for you. You wouldn’t know reality if it beat your candidate by 6 million votes and 72 electoral votes.

😃

Poor baby, you are not telling the truth. And rough for me would send you screaming into the night probably never to be heard from again.
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Fri 20 Nov, 2020 11:16 pm
Quote:
You Are Not Alone…


Quote:
No Republican will ever hold office in the next decade without the blessing of President Trump; and there is absolutely no current confidence that President Trump will not lay waste to the system if the GOP acquiesces to the transparent fraud that exists behind the Biden-Harris sham.

Beyond the politics… this 80 million+ vote assembly are consumers of products, goods and services generated by the same elites that hold them in contempt. If President Trump transfers and directs that energy, entities and even entire industries can be wiped out.

There is no precedent here. Eighty million angry Americans resolved to a common objective is not something to be trifled with.


Good luck to the 80 million, they just might make their own luck.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/11/20/you-are-not-alone/
Builder
 
  -3  
Fri 20 Nov, 2020 11:48 pm
@farmerman,
Quote:
The sad part is that you guys have stupidly fallen for the BS of your leader.


Only Trump is not my leader, and I detest our conservative government's actions in Australia.

I breathed a sigh of relief when Obama sidelined the GOP first time around, thinking he would be an agent of change.

How wrong I could be played out over the years, and the "fix" was in for his second term. Biden may have been a bit-player, in the Clinton/Obama fiasco that saw the rise of ISIS, and destruction of Syria, and Libya, but he's well-connected, and knows all of the players in Clinton's pay-for-play scandals.

As dodgy as Donald has been portrayed in the media, he'll never ever approach the level of corruption of the previous admin.
farmerman
 
  3  
Sat 21 Nov, 2020 01:39 am
@Builder,
so now its corruption. When one argument fails, slide on over to another.

Your understanding of recent history is quite flawed. You dont have to b a citizen to be a Trumpie, you jut have to get on the "We want anyone elses legacy to fail" train.

Builder
 
  -3  
Sat 21 Nov, 2020 04:21 am
@farmerman,
Quote:
so now its corruption.


It's never been about anything else.

You're **** at building strawman arguments.
neptuneblue
 
  6  
Sat 21 Nov, 2020 05:02 am
@coldjoint,
Quote:
No Republican will ever hold office in the next decade without the blessing of President Trump; and there is absolutely no current confidence that President Trump will not lay waste to the system if the GOP acquiesces to the transparent fraud that exists behind the Biden-Harris sham.

Beyond the politics… this 80 million+ vote assembly are consumers of products, goods and services generated by the same elites that hold them in contempt. If President Trump transfers and directs that energy, entities and even entire industries can be wiped out.


Wow.

I read this and thought...this is the basic definition of dictatorship.

It's tremendously scary that you'd not only want this, but encourage it as well. You have really have got to hate democracy to the core if this is something you believe in and want to make happen in America. It fundamentally changes who we are and govern "for the people, by the people."
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Rebelofnj
 
  2  
Sat 21 Nov, 2020 07:28 am
@coldjoint,
Trump’s lawyers have lots of affidavits. That doesn’t mean as much as it seems.

Quote:
The Trump campaign has repeatedly cited the hundreds of sworn affidavits it has assembled. It has even shown stacks of them to illustrate the supposed heft of its legal case. Many of them are not available because they haven’t been filed in actual lawsuits or made available publicly. (Giuliani cited the alleged targeting of their authors for keeping them obscured.)

But among the witnesses who have had their allegations aired in court, many have been dismissed by judges as inadmissible or not credible. One particularly high-profile one alleged many precincts in Michigan had more votes than actual voters, but shortly after Giuliani et al. raised the issue Thursday — alongside their pleas to take the affidavits seriously — it fell apart.

As the Trump campaign will remind you, these are sworn statements. But according to legal experts, the jeopardy faced by those behind them is relatively minimal.
....
In the case of affidavits from election observers, for example, it would be difficult to prove that what they were saying was false, especially in instances in which they alleged other people involved in the ballot-counting process said something to them. In addition, statements from those like the Texas security consultant who mistook data from Minnesota to be from Michigan could be understood as an honest mistake or resulting from a lack of expertise in the subject matter — rather than an outright lie.

The Trump campaign’s affidavits also have a checkered history, to put it kindly. When they have been used in court, they’ve often been cast aside.

One Michigan judge noted that the evidence wasn’t direct evidence, despite the Trump campaign’s contention that it was:

Quote:
TRUMP LAWYER: Your Honor, in terms of the hearsay point, this is a firsthand factual statement made by Ms. Connarn, and she has made that statement based on her own firsthand physical evidence and knowledge —
JUDGE: “I heard somebody else say something.” Tell me why that’s not hearsay. Come on, now.
TRUMP LAWYER: Well it’s a firsthand statement of her physical –
JUDGE: It’s an out-of-court statement offered where the truth of the matter is asserted, right?


The judge later dismissed the complaint as “inadmissible hearsay within hearsay.”

Other witnesses signed affidavits that said, “I believe my vote for Donald J. Trump and Michael Pence was not counted.” But when pressed by judges, they admitted they didn’t have any actual evidence to support that.

A similar thing happened in Chatham County, Ga., where the GOP called two witnesses as part of its allegation that 53 ballots received after Election Day were predated to make them appear valid. But under questioning, the witnesses acknowledged they didn’t know whether the ballots were actually received after the deadline, while witnesses for the local elections board testified under oath that they were received on time


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/11/20/affidavit-giuliani-vote-fraud/
blatham
 
  0  
Sat 21 Nov, 2020 08:10 am
Thinking ahead, I've just reserved the domain name "DonaldJTrumpReverseMortgages"
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blatham
 
  0  
Sat 21 Nov, 2020 08:53 am
JEANINE PIRRO: What they want to do is they want turn this whole country into a Green New Deal country. Pay just the way you want them to pay you and then we're socialist country like Venezuela. We'll be eating zoo animals before it's all over and women will be giving birth in the streets.

This is exactly what has happened elsewhere. Sweden, Denmark, Norway, New Zealand, you name the socialist country and it is empty zoos and boulevard birthing stations.
Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Sat 21 Nov, 2020 09:06 am
@blatham,


I'm told panda is delicious...if prepared properly.
 

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