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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
blatham
 
  2  
Sat 26 Nov, 2016 08:48 pm
@ehBeth,
That Hamilton stuff is wonderful. Thank you.
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ehBeth
 
  2  
Sat 26 Nov, 2016 08:51 pm
@blatham,
A bunch of us got together and complained to the CBC when there was a feature radio interview on KL. We don't want our tax dollars giving her free publicity.

We also don't share anything which directly uses her name. We're trying to start a pre-emptive blockade.
blatham
 
  2  
Sat 26 Nov, 2016 08:52 pm
And this is just so special
Quote:
Ben Carson Likened Housing Desegregation to "Failed Socialist Experiments"
http://bit.ly/2gtUgPl
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giujohn
 
  -1  
Sat 26 Nov, 2016 09:04 pm
@MontereyJack,
Yeah...aint it great?!!!!!
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giujohn
 
  -2  
Sat 26 Nov, 2016 09:12 pm
@blatham,
It's a vast right-wing conspiracy I tells ya!
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blatham
 
  2  
Sat 26 Nov, 2016 09:19 pm
@ehBeth,
Quote:
We're trying to start a pre-emptive blockade.

Count me in.
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blatham
 
  2  
Sat 26 Nov, 2016 09:39 pm
Quote:
Trip Gabriel
‏@tripgabriel
FL woman with Crohn's disease who voted for Trump relys on Obamacare. "I hope it stays the same"

Norman Ornstein ‏@NormOrnstein 10h10 hours ago
Norman Ornstein Retweeted Trip Gabriel
"I threw a grenade into my own house. I hope it doesn't go off!"

And shall we just note that somewhere close to 100% of Americans voted for a candidate who promised not to rescind or jeopardize Medicare.

And let's subsequently note that the above facts are of absolutely no consequence at all to Paul Ryan except as regards the necessity to lie through his teeth.
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blatham
 
  4  
Sun 27 Nov, 2016 06:03 am
Quote:
“The people have spoken and the election is over, and as Hillary Clinton herself said on election night, in addition to her conceding by congratulating me, 'We must accept this result and then look to the future,'” [Trump] said.

Later Saturday, he tweeted: "The Green Party scam to fill up their coffers by asking for impossible recounts is now being joined by the badly defeated & demoralized Dems"
http://politi.co/2guI9BC
Stein's motivation isn't clear to me though it could be a means to gather up money. For the Clinton crowd, who didn't initiate this move, it could be an attempt to ensure the thing, if done, is done in an orderly and sane manner.

But as regards Trump's response (along with the response of his supporters), that's interesting and predictable. After having claimed or suggested how many times (25? 50? 100?) in tweets and speeches that the election was "rigged", it is now suddenly beyond the pale that anyone would dream there was any rigging.

It's not merely that this is blatantly inconsistent, which obviously is important. It's that this is the methodology of a straight-up bully or tyrant. Trump, as we all know, refused to say he'd accept the election results. And there was the suggestion from him or his camp that if he lost, the people would rise up against the result because it would have been rigged.
blatham
 
  1  
Sun 27 Nov, 2016 06:19 am
As I noted earlier, naming DeVos was a sop to the religious right fringe creatures
Quote:
RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — Liberty University President Jerry Falwell Jr. says President elect-Donald Trump offered him the job of education secretary, but that he turned it down for personal reasons.

Falwell tells The Associated Press that Trump offered him the job last week during a meeting in New York. He says Trump wanted a four- to six-year commitment, but that he couldn't leave Liberty for more than two years.
http://politi.co/2fB8ERn
This is not about effective and nationally beneficial educational policies. It's about solidifying political power.
blatham
 
  2  
Sun 27 Nov, 2016 08:29 am
A good NYT piece on Trump's conflicts of interest around the world. I'll just paste one not terribly important graph because it's special:
Quote:
Mr. Trump has acknowledged a conflict of interest in Turkey. “I have a little conflict of interest because I have a major, major building in Istanbul,” he said during a radio interview last year with Stephen K. Bannon, the Breitbart News executive who has since been designated his chief White House strategist. “It’s a tremendously successful job. It’s called Trump Towers — two towers, instead of one. Not the usual one. It’s two.”
http://nyti.ms/2guUtle
"Just look out over the sands. See that pyramid over there, that's Tut. Pretty impressive, isn't it? Now look over thataway. That's for me. Two pyramids. Not the usual one. Two"
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blatham
 
  1  
Sun 27 Nov, 2016 08:39 am
Leadership: How To Spot The Real Thing, clue #35
(bonus clue on recognizing principle when you see it)
Quote:
Laura Ingraham ‏@IngrahamAngle 2h2 hours ago
“A leader is a man who can adapt principles to circumstances.”
– General George Patton Jr

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reasoning logic
 
  1  
Sun 27 Nov, 2016 09:13 am
I disapprove of both candidates but I do find it to be important that we all understand that some people find a need to decide for you.

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layman
 
  -1  
Sun 27 Nov, 2016 10:19 am
The one's who have really been "cheated" in this election were the poor corporations that threw a billion dollars into Clinton's campaign. It's a shame to buy all that influence just to end up with no influence, know what I'm sayin?

I always assumed that Trump would find a way to steal this election. Not smart to bet against him.
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blatham
 
  3  
Sun 27 Nov, 2016 11:01 am
Sort of on the topic...
At another site where I've been active for years, a few folks on the left are irate that Obama is offering Trump whatever assistance might be needed in educating him in the broad range of problems he'll face and how to set about dealing productively with them.

I haven't been patient with these voices. Obama has no choice other than to try and get this guy up to speed - even if, and because, he's such an incurious twit. It would be grossly irresponsible for Obama to do anything else. This traditional responsibility is not lessened because of who is coming in, it is heightened acutely.
blatham
 
  1  
Sun 27 Nov, 2016 11:56 am
Quote:
“What Donald Trump decides, Kellyanne Conway and everybody else will respect,” Conway said in response to a question about the potential selection. “It’s just the backlash from the grassroots. I’m hearing from people who say, ‘hey, my parents died penniless but I gave $216 to Donald Trump’s campaign and I would feel betrayed.’ … We don’t even know if Mitt Romney voted for Donald Trump.”
http://thebea.st/2fBMI8A
And THAT is what's important in a posting like S of S - loyalty to The Trump. Those who were not should be punished. Nothing pathological to see here.
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georgeob1
 
  0  
Sun 27 Nov, 2016 02:16 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

I haven't been patient with these voices. Obama has no choice other than to try and get this guy up to speed - even if, and because, he's such an incurious twit. It would be grossly irresponsible for Obama to do anything else. This traditional responsibility is not lessened because of who is coming in, it is heightened acutely.

I suspect Obama's motives are a combination of an earnest desire to facilitate and effective transition and an understandable desire to save whatever may be left of his legacy in office. I think there is verly little evidence to suggest that Obama might persuade Trump to modify the policy directions he has laid out, and I doubt that he (Obama) is vain and foolish enough to believe that he can.

You appear to be adopting the point of view of a liberal diety passing benign judgment on the unfolding scene below you. What's it like up there?
layman
 
  0  
Sun 27 Nov, 2016 02:25 pm
@georgeob1,
georgeob1 wrote:

blatham wrote:

I haven't been patient with these voices.

You appear to be adopting the point of view of a liberal diety passing benign judgment on the unfolding scene below you. What's it like up there?


Well, we're just lucky that Blathy has "been patient," I figure. What if he hadn't been!? The wrath of God aint nuthin nice.

Oh, wait. I misread that. He says he AINT been patient. Too late.
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blatham
 
  2  
Sun 27 Nov, 2016 03:09 pm
@georgeob1,
Quote:
I think there is verly little evidence to suggest that Obama might persuade Trump to modify the policy directions he has laid out,

That's possibly correct. But as Trump is not and never has been much interested in policy, there might be room for education on, for example, the real consequences to millions of Americans if the ACA is dismantled. But I'd imagine the time likely wasted as Trump will be pushed in other directions.

But that's not what I was referring to. Rather, to the fullest possible briefings on the range of duties/responsibilities Trump will face in the WH, protocols for intel, on-going matters around the world that the US is engaged in, etc. Trump expressed surprise at the magnitude of this after the first such meeting. The sort of hand-over briefs that are necessary for a smooth transition. For example, if you turned over command of your carrier (let's imagine it had nukes on board) to someone who has previously only sailed as a passenger in his private yacht.


Quote:
You appear to be adopting the point of view of a liberal diety passing benign judgment on the unfolding scene below you.
Goodness. I do hope you are not offended. I have striven all my life to be politically correct and I'd hate to think I was failing in this most sincere of goals.
layman
 
  0  
Sun 27 Nov, 2016 03:30 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

I have striven all my life to be politically correct and I'd hate to think I was failing in this most sincere of goals.


That explains a lot, sho nuff.
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McGentrix
 
  1  
Sun 27 Nov, 2016 03:47 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

This is not about effective and nationally beneficial educational policies. It's about solidifying political power.


Why not both?
 

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