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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
blatham
 
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Sat 18 Feb, 2017 12:30 am
@McGentrix,
They should do their jobs, obviously. And they should not shy away from contact with citizens even where many of those citizens are presently protesting against policies up-coming or in progress. And yes, when politicians hold office, the very least we must demand of them is that they aren't using those positions for personal gain.
layman
 
  -2  
Sat 18 Feb, 2017 12:39 am
@layman,
So, CNN does a poll, and it doesn't like the results. So, how does it handle this? It reporst what a British paper, who completely misstates the result, says about it, eh? Without correction, of course.

They thrive on "reporting" the false claims of others, and think they have thereby immunized themselves. The fake Buzz (whatever they call themselves) report, for example.

Like the innuendo Blathy cited, where some NYT reporters says he doesn't "know" if Trump is being blackmailed by Russians, but says it is a fearful possibility.

These chumps seem to think they're talking to chumps. Well, in the case of their own readers, I guess they're right, eh?

McGentrix
 
  0  
Sat 18 Feb, 2017 12:42 am
@layman,
CNN is a shithole of a news corporation. I honestly don't see why they are still on the air.
layman
 
  -1  
Sat 18 Feb, 2017 12:45 am
@McGentrix,
McGentrix wrote:

CNN is a shithole of a news corporation. I honestly don't see why they are still on the air.


For about the same reason why the "Stormfront News" (or whatever they call their rag) thrives amongst a certain brand of readers, I figure, eh, Gent. Hate speech sells--to haters, anyway.
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layman
 
  -1  
Sat 18 Feb, 2017 12:50 am
If you listen to the MSM, Trump is completely a deranged, utterly stupid, completely incompetent, and thoroughly corrupt scheming NAZI who is devoted to destroying democracy and establishing a totalitarian regime in the U.S.

The cheese-eaters gobble it up like it's cheese--which it is, actually.

Trump is to the MSM as ZOG is to neo-nazis. The embodiment of all evil--the perpetrator of a conspiracy plot which only they are in a position to fully expose.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Sat 18 Feb, 2017 12:54 am
@layman,
layman wrote:
It reporst what a British paper, who completely misstates the result, says about it, eh?
Well, that's just the conservative view in the UK - you should read what others wrote.
layman
 
  -1  
Sat 18 Feb, 2017 12:57 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

layman wrote:
It reporst what a British paper, who completely misstates the result, says about it, eh?
Well, that's just the conservative view in the UK - you should read what others wrote.


Well, Walt, if anybody in America actually cared about what the candy-ass Europeans say or think, maybe they would read it, but....

I can't think of any higher endorsement of Trump's agenda than to note that Merkel disagrees with it.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Sat 18 Feb, 2017 01:08 am
@layman,
layman wrote:
I can't think of any higher endorsement of Trump's agenda than to note that Merkel disagrees with it.
I like it when there's no honour between conservatives and right-wingers.
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Builder
 
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Sat 18 Feb, 2017 01:08 am
@McGentrix,
Quote:
CNN is a shithole of a news corporation.


It's the CIA's propaganda channel.
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layman
 
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Sat 18 Feb, 2017 01:24 am
Quote:
President Trump has vowed to hunt down whoever is leaking classified information about him and his team, and if he succeeds in unmasking the sources of illegal disclosures, they could face hard time.

Any leakers who are exposed could face serious time in prison. Jeffrey A. Sterling, was sentenced to 3 and ½ years in prison for disclosing national defense information and obstructing justice after disclosing classified information to a New York Times reporter. Chelsea Manning, was sentenced to in 2013 to 35 years in prison for providing more than 700,000 government files to WikiLeaks. Manning’s sentence was later commuted by President Obama.


The best part is that Trump aint gunna stop with just the leakers. He's going to prosecute the accomplices who aid and abet their criminal activities, i.e., the press.

Wolf Blitzer aint gunna end up in no minimum-security "country club" slammer for white collar criminals, either. He will be bunkin with Bubba at Leavenworth.

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layman
 
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Sat 18 Feb, 2017 01:59 am
Quote:
Chicago gang members say more police won't stop the murders

Rashad Britt grew up in the Henry Horner projects on Chicago’s West Side, known for gangs and violence....His first gun was a gift, given to him as a pre-teen. “I looked at it like that was love. I looked at it like this person loved me, for the simple fact that they wanted to see me protected.

“Half of these guys don’t got no mom, either they was crack heads, dope fiends, boosters or something,” says a man who would only identify himself as a member of the Black Disciples. “They moms or fathers was lost to the same gang that we getting ourselves into now.” “We more like a family than a gang… brothers,” says Kevin Gentry – associated with the Vice Lords.

In the gang, someone was kind to them. Their role models sold drugs, had money, clothes cars and girlfriends. “The gangs have become family for a lot of young men here in Chicago and across the United States. They gravitate toward the guys with charisma. They gravitate toward the guys that might protect them.

President Donald Trump suggested sending in the feds. Tracy Cannon – once associated with the Vice Lords – says it won’t matter. “I don’t care how many police they bring in. It’s not going to stop, man.”

“Ain’t like it used to be,” says Cannon. “Back then we had structure. Older guys would make us go to school. Even though we was gang banging, we would still go to school.”

Now, it’s a bullet-ridden free for all, with gangsters trying to gain respect by proving themselves to be ruthless. “Kids only care about nice clothes, fast money and how many kills they can get,” says Britt. “When they get a certain amount of kills or when they hurt a certain amount of people, they feared. They got the fear factor going on. The kids nowadays in Chicago, that’s what they want.”

The guy from the Black Disciples says the gang is all he’s even been able to rely on and he’ll never leave gangster life. “If I live by this gun and I live by these drugs, this product that I’m selling, and I’m pushing in this neighborhood. It’s putting food on my table and food in my kids’ mouths and a roof over they heads, then I’m not going to put it down,” he says.


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/02/17/chicago-gang-members-say-more-police-wont-stop-murders.html

A sad commentary on how badly the "culture" in inner city ghettos has been allowed to degenerate under Democratic Mayors across the country, eh?
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izzythepush
 
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Sat 18 Feb, 2017 04:46 am
@revelette1,
America is known for torturing Muslims and butchering their children. I doubt any Muslim baker in America would want to risk that.
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Olivier5
 
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Sat 18 Feb, 2017 05:25 am
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:

I think Blatham has most of those who don't agree with him on ignore. He doesn't seem to respond to anyone but those who enter the echo chamber.

I've been thinking. Current guess is that the issues of what went wrong in the last Dem campaign and what lessons should the Dems draw from it, what change in strategy is in order etc. are still too touchy to discuss. The wound inflicted on Blatham's sense of political savyness is not healed yet. That's just a guess.
farmerman
 
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Sat 18 Feb, 2017 06:04 am
@blatham,
Im pqrt of a grass root ction group tht i starting work on Trump's proposed Environmental policies.
The first EO that allows mine dump water to further foul our streams is already signed. The donut ating crowd looks at this as a "win" FOR WHOM? I ax?
Weve got 1/3 of our streams fucked up so that fish cant live in them in Pa. All this from PAST Coal Mining.
Thats like allowing massive toxic pollution releases into the air by BUGGY WHIP factories. Why the hell we even considering coal. Look qt China, their lung cancer rate and other environmentally affected illnesses are legion.
Why must we accept this bullshit because dickhead Trump has got some archaic moronic view of energy.

I ee theres a growing list of GOPersand Evangelicals (for the environment) ho are RE thinking this clown and his potentil damage to the Republic.
hightor
 
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Sat 18 Feb, 2017 06:20 am
You Heard it Here First Department:

Feb 18, New York Times
Quote:
It’s with a whiff of desperation that President Trump insists these days that he’s the chief executive Washington needs, the decisive dealmaker who, as he said during the campaign, “alone can fix it.” What America has seen so far is an inept White House led by a celebrity apprentice.


Feb 15, response
Quote:
I'm going to refer to him as 'the Apprentice'.


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blatham
 
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Sat 18 Feb, 2017 06:22 am
@Olivier5,
Quote:
The wound inflicted on Blatham's sense of political savyness is not healed yet. That's just a guess.

Apparently, you feel obliged to continue this one. Let me put some questions to you.
1) can you link me to a post pre-election where you predicted Trump would win?
2) can you cite anyone other that Moore who made that prediction?
3) have you read the Tentacles of Rage piece I linked earlier or Jane Mayer's work in the New Yorker or her book Dark Money? If so, which and what did you take from it?
4) what was the margin of win that got Trump the WH?
blatham
 
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Sat 18 Feb, 2017 06:32 am
@farmerman,
Yes. This is one of the key disasters coming down the pike. Elizabeth Drew stated in her piece that Pence and Sessions were the individuals who provided Trump with the names of nominees and given who he's put in place, that seems to me exactly right. These are pretty much exactly who the Koch crowd wanted in those positions. Pruitt is a perfect example.

But his popularity rating, the slim EC margin, and the popular vote tell us that the majority of Americans have some good notion of how much this regime is a danger. And that inevitably must include a significant sector of people previously voting GOP or those who aren't tied to either party. It would be very nice to see more evangelicals fall away from Trump but that was a pretty solid block for him (as totally ******* bizarre as that might seem).

Well done on the actions group. I think that's the only way forward now.
hightor
 
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Sat 18 Feb, 2017 06:44 am
@blatham,
Quote:
It would be very nice to see more evangelicals fall away from Trump but that was a pretty solid block for him (as totally ******* bizarre as that might seem).

It was enlightened Realpolitik on their part — they held their noses and voted for Satan knowing they'd get a hardline conservative on the Supreme Court. In general the right is much better when it comes to playing hardball. Look at McConnell's eight years of obstruction — the country can go to hell as long as we can pin it on Obama.
blatham
 
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Sat 18 Feb, 2017 06:46 am
This from Elizabeth Drew (linked earlier) is exactly as I see things (though I would underline the aspect of his pathological narcissism)
Quote:
Even those of us not naturally inclined to believe the worst possibilities of a situation have had to face up to Trump’s authoritarian tendencies. One doesn’t have to assume that he sought the office in order to wield dictatorial power—it could be simply that he’s a businessman without public stockholders who’s used to having his way and is so incurious or compromised as to believe, or insist, that the world is the way he says it is. But that explanation overlooks too much that’s been right before us. And Trump has people around him who are seeking to exploit his talent for commanding the spotlight.
t.
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blatham
 
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Sat 18 Feb, 2017 06:55 am
@hightor,
Quote:
It was enlightened Realpolitik on their part

Understood. They've been well-organized and active since Goldwater (and earlier re evil Darwinism). The version of them up here in Canada is much the same and I watched them over the last two plus decades adopt strategies originated down south.

My "******* bizarre" reference was simply to the profoundly anti-christ nature of their values.
 

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