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Rebelofnj
 
  3  
Thu 12 Nov, 2020 06:59 am
@oralloy,
You never clarified from the other thread:

When you say "progressives", are you talking about the Democratic Party as a whole or the Progressive faction within the party? Because those Progressives are not exactly enthusiastic towards Biden as they believe he won't bring any meaningful change.

Quote:
I recently emailed my state representative and senator asking for hearings into ballot fraud in the recent election.


But not about them pressuring Trump to appoint independent prosecutors?
revelette3
 
  3  
Thu 12 Nov, 2020 07:01 am
@blatham,
Quote:
This continuing concentration of attention on Trump serves GOP purposes, folks. Trump has no way forward. It's noise. It's "flooding the zone with ****". You know what's happening with the pandemic. You know the GOP is and will salt the earth to hurt Biden. **** Trump.


I would agree but Trump's childish behavior and his "administration" and republican's coddling of him are having real time harmful effects which have Biden starting out with a preventable disadvantage.

Quote:
Biden's team is in touch with foreign governments without State Department involvement, and he has held numerous calls with leaders, including Germany's Angela Merkel and Canada's Justin Trudeau. But they are operating without the logistical and translation support that the State Department operations center provides.

"They would prefer to be using the State Department resources," said a source familiar with the situation, who noted that the Biden team is having to deal with the unexpected challenge of facilitating these calls.

Not only is Biden being blocked by the State Department from receiving messages and assistance facilitating and from preparing for calls, on Tuesday Secretary of State Mike Pompeo refused to acknowledge Biden's victory, saying that "there will be a smooth transition to a second Trump administration," igniting a furor and roiling diplomats.

Biden is also being blocked from getting the same intelligence briefings as the President, known as the President's Daily Brief, and should the Trump administration continue to block a typical transition close to Inauguration Day on January 20, there are concerns Biden's administration will be playing catch-up the day he takes office.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/state-department-is-preventing-biden-from-accessing-messages-from-foreign-leaders/ar-BB1aVwed?ocid=msedgntp
Rebelofnj
 
  4  
Thu 12 Nov, 2020 07:01 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
I believe there is a way for the public to email the President. Whether my email would reach the President's eyes I've no idea. But that's the route that I will take if I choose to send my thoughts his way.


You could just use Twitter. That way, you can directly message Trump AND get the attention to his many followers, who might agree with what you say. Best contact him before he leaves office, in the likely event he is banned from Twitter.
oralloy
 
  -3  
Thu 12 Nov, 2020 07:09 am
@Rebelofnj,
Once he leaves office, it will be too late for him to appoint independent prosecutors anyway.

It doesn't matter if his followers agree. They don't have the power to appoint independent prosecutors. Although I guess if they like the idea they might choose to repeat it, leading to greater chance of the President noticing.
oralloy
 
  -3  
Thu 12 Nov, 2020 07:10 am
@Rebelofnj,
Rebelofnj wrote:
You never clarified from the other thread:

It was locked earlier this morning. I'll check later to see if it's been unlocked.


Rebelofnj wrote:
When you say "progressives", are you talking about the Democratic Party as a whole or the Progressive faction within the party?

Just the faction.

I am well aware that there is a difference. I'm a Democrat but not a progressive. There are probably also progressives who are not Democrats.

I try to make sure to use the correct term when I write my posts. But human nature being what it is, there are probably numerous instances where I slip up and use the wrong term.


Rebelofnj wrote:
But not about them pressuring Trump to appoint independent prosecutors?

Correct. I have not sent such an email. And if I did send it, I would send it directly to the White House instead of sending it to a third party to pass along.
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izzythepush
 
  4  
Thu 12 Nov, 2020 07:11 am
Tehran’s enriched uranium stockpile is now 12 X the limit agreed in 2015.

Another foreign policy triumph for Trump.
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snood
 
  3  
Thu 12 Nov, 2020 07:12 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

Once he leaves office, it will be too late for him to appoint independent prosecutors anyway.

It doesn't matter if his followers agree. They don't have the power to appoint independent prosecutors. Although I guess if they like the idea they might choose to repeat it, leading to greater chance of the President noticing.


Yeah! That could happen! Trump might take your suggestion to heart!

And Trump really won this election, and 99% of the media saying Biden is the president elect is just fake news...

Good thing you aren’t delusional.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Thu 12 Nov, 2020 07:14 am
@snood,
That is indeed a good thing.

I'm glad that I don't spew fact-free nonsense the way progressives do.
oralloy
 
  -3  
Thu 12 Nov, 2020 07:19 am
@revelette3,
revelette3 wrote:
I would agree but Trump's childish behavior and his "administration" and republican's coddling of him are having real time harmful effects which have Biden starting out with a preventable disadvantage.

Good. What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.


CNN wrote:
Biden's team is in touch with foreign governments without State Department involvement, and he has held numerous calls with leaders, including Germany's Angela Merkel and Canada's Justin Trudeau. But they are operating without the logistical and translation support that the State Department operations center provides.

"They would prefer to be using the State Department resources," said a source familiar with the situation, who noted that the Biden team is having to deal with the unexpected challenge of facilitating these calls.

Not only is Biden being blocked by the State Department from receiving messages and assistance facilitating and from preparing for calls, on Tuesday Secretary of State Mike Pompeo refused to acknowledge Biden's victory, saying that "there will be a smooth transition to a second Trump administration," igniting a furor and roiling diplomats.

Biden is also being blocked from getting the same intelligence briefings as the President, known as the President's Daily Brief, and should the Trump administration continue to block a typical transition close to Inauguration Day on January 20, there are concerns Biden's administration will be playing catch-up the day he takes office.

That there is some quality whining. Is there any more like that? Very Happy
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Rebelofnj
 
  3  
Thu 12 Nov, 2020 07:19 am
@oralloy,
A reminder that Trump and GOP House members had tried ordering Barr to investigate the Bidens and appointing a special prosecutor on the case before the election. But nothing happened.

But you are still calling for this to happen.

https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-william-barr-elections-20fd56b64801dd83b1657c630a1ebdfa
oralloy
 
  -3  
Thu 12 Nov, 2020 07:21 am
@Rebelofnj,
As far as I know, there have not been any independent prosecutors appointed to investigate the Biden Administration at this point.

Yes, I am still calling for it to happen. Multiple independent prosecutors ideally.
blatham
 
  2  
Thu 12 Nov, 2020 07:27 am
@revelette3,
Quote:
Pence would probably thank him and support him, he is so wimpy.
But ambitious as well. He was the Koch's favored candidate as well so that sets up interesting dynamics.
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MontereyJack
 
  3  
Thu 12 Nov, 2020 07:28 am
@oralloy,
Multiple independent prosecutors to figure out what crimes trump will be charged with the moment he surrenders his illegitimate presidency on january 20 and becomes indictable, yes.
Rebelofnj
 
  4  
Thu 12 Nov, 2020 07:31 am
@oralloy,
And if Trump and Barr don't appoint anyone, then what?

And you keep saying the Biden Administration, even though Biden and his cabinet are not even in office yet.

So how is Trump supposed to appoint an independent prosecutor against an administration who hasn't even done anything yet? Is this prosecutor supposed to make sure the new admin follows the law, or to investigate Biden on his past actions during the Obama Administration?

If the latter, then why hasn't Trump ordered an investigation during his last 4 years? He promised an investigation for Hillary Clinton but he never had one.
blatham
 
  3  
Thu 12 Nov, 2020 07:31 am
@revelette3,
Quote:
Trump's childish behavior and his "administration" and republican's coddling of him are having real time harmful effects
Sure. But continued concentration on Trump (at the levels we're seeing) distracts. That's the game.
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MontereyJack
 
  5  
Thu 12 Nov, 2020 07:32 am
@oralloy,
No, you spew fact-free nonsense the way conservatives do, the most fanatastical, hateful and evidenceless there is.
oristarA
 
  4  
Thu 12 Nov, 2020 08:19 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

oristarA wrote:
Neither Obama Adminstration did do nothing nor Biden Administration will do nothing.

That is incorrect. Barack Obama achieved very little in the last six years of his presidency.


You could consider Obama to be a keeper of a truly great America that was well respected by the world. Trump ruins America's great reputation, which is worth trillions dollars.

Trump seems to save hundred billions more money for America. Yet he has done it at the expense of America's reputation, damaging America's long-term interest. Looking at the loss of trillions vs. the gain of hundred billions, it is clear that Trump is none other than the black sheep of America.
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MontereyJack
 
  3  
Thu 12 Nov, 2020 08:23 am
@oralloy,
so in other words you were totally wrong.
MontereyJack
 
  3  
Thu 12 Nov, 2020 08:33 am
@oralloy,
It's going to really wound his hyper inflated ego now that the Trump name on a building is toxic branding poison when Trump Tower is renamed the Biden Building.
Rebelofnj
 
  3  
Thu 12 Nov, 2020 08:55 am
@MontereyJack,
Someone suggested re-naming Trump Tower after the first governor of New York, George Clinton.
 

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