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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
oristarA
 
  1  
Thu 12 Nov, 2020 08:58 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

blatham wrote:
Trump is floating a 2024 second run.

It's a good idea. After the Republicans undermine a weak and ineffective Biden Administration for the next four years, 2024 should be a lot like running for office in 2016 after the weak and ineffective Obama Administration.



Indeed a good idea. It means that Trump woefully admits in his heart that Biden has actually won the 2020 election and he has to seek a chance to win it back in 2024. To save face, he incites his followers to make a hectoring show of strength.

But will Trump have much of a chance to become president again in 2024? The odds are low. Because Biden has a great respect for science! It was America's invincible science that made America so great and this big boy Trump, ignorant of science, sidelines and ignores America's scientists that are admired by the world. Because Biden wins popular vote by five million more votes that Trump can never catch up! Because Dems have become highly alert and they will surely defeat Trump again in 2024.
Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Thu 12 Nov, 2020 09:43 am
Trump’s Post-Election Tactics Put Him in Unsavory Company
Quote:
Denying defeat, claiming fraud and using government machinery to reverse election results are the time-honored tools of dictators.
[...]
President Aleksandr G. Lukashenko’s victory, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said last month, was “fraud.” Mr. Pompeo added: “We’ve opposed the fact that he’s now inaugurated himself. We know what the people of Belarus want. They want something different.”

Just a month on, Mr. Pompeo’s boss, President Trump, is now borrowing from Mr. Lukashenko’s playbook, joining a club of truculent leaders who, regardless of what voters decide, declare themselves the winners of elections.

That club counts as its members far more dictators, tyrants and potentates than leaders of what used to be known as the “free world” — countries that, led by Washington, have for decades lectured others on the need to hold elections and respect the result.

The parallel is not exact. Mr. Trump participated in a free and fair democratic election. Most autocrats defy voters before they even vote, excluding real rivals from the ballot and swamping the airwaves with one-sided coverage.

But when they do hold genuinely competitive votes and the result goes against them, they often ignore the result, denouncing it as the work of traitors, criminals and foreign saboteurs, and therefore invalid. By refusing to accept the results of last week’s election and working to delegitimize the vote, Mr. Trump is following a similar strategy.

There is little indication that Mr. Trump can overcome the laws and institutions that ensure the verdict of American voters will carry the day. The country has a free press, a strong and independent judiciary, election officials dedicated to an honest counting of the votes and a strong political opposition, none of which exists in Belarus or Russia.

Still, the United States has never before had to force an incumbent to concede a fair defeat at the polls. And merely by raising the possibility that he would have to be forced out of office, Mr. Trump has shattered the bedrock democratic tradition of a seamless transition.

The damage already done by Mr. Trump’s obduracy could be lasting. Ivan Krastev, an expert on East and Central Europe at the Institute for Human Sciences in Vienna, said Mr. Trump’s refusal to concede would “create a new model” for like-minded populists in Europe and elsewhere.

“When Trump won in 2016 the lesson was that they could trust democracy,” he said. “Now, they won’t trust democracy, and will do everything and anything to stay in power.” In what he called “the Lukashenko scenario,” leaders will still want to hold elections but “never lose.” President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia has been doing that for two decades.
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revelette3
 
  3  
Thu 12 Nov, 2020 10:14 am
Republican senator says he will step in if Biden doesn't have access to intelligence briefings by Friday

You know maybe the Trump administration is changing everything so that they can hide all the information democrats had been seeking but were denied access to through these four years. You know private communications between Trump and those involved in the Ukraine matter, stuff like that.
coldjoint
 
  0  
Thu 12 Nov, 2020 11:29 am
@revelette3,
revelette3 wrote:

Republican senator says he will step in if Biden doesn't have access to intelligence briefings by Friday

You know maybe the Trump administration is changing everything so that they can hide all the information democrats had been seeking but were denied access to through these four years. You know private communications between Trump and those involved in the Ukraine matter, stuff like that.

The Democrats got all the information they needed. There are Democrats on the gang of eight. The information they wanted was simply none of their business. They wasted four years and I hope they are payed back in spades along with their illegitimate president if the election results are not reversed.
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hightor
 
  2  
Thu 12 Nov, 2020 11:30 am
Trump Supporter Admits Voter Fraud, Says She Voted Twice For President in Viral Video
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Thu 12 Nov, 2020 11:31 am
@oristarA,
Quote:
Biden has actually won the 2020 election

Trump and over 70 million people will never believe that because it is a lie.
Quote:
Because Biden has a great respect for science

Biden does not even know where he is. Everything he says he is told to say. That has been obvious. He is no longer capable of leading anything, but his toy choo- choo train around his basement, let alone this country.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Thu 12 Nov, 2020 11:36 am
@hightor,

One more source no one is going to listen to. The media is dead to half of America.
Rebelofnj
 
  2  
Thu 12 Nov, 2020 11:43 am
In more lighthearted news: Donald Trump will be the first U.S. President since the 007 franchise’s inception in 1962 to not have a James Bond film released during his presidency.

Quote:
The James Bond franchise began in 1962, during the Kennedy administration. Since then, every U.S. President has seen at least one James Bond film released during their presidency, from one film during the two and a half year Ford administration, to four during the eight year Reagan administration.

John F. Kennedy - Dr. No, From Russia With Love

Lyndon B. Johnson - Goldfinger, Thunderball, You Only Live Twice

Richard Nixon - On Her Majesty’s Secret Service, Diamonds Are Forever, Live And Let Die

Gerald Ford - The Man With The Golden Gun

Jimmy Carter - The Spy Who Loved Me, Moonraker

Ronald Reagan - For Your Eyes Only, Octopussy, A View To A Kill, The Living Daylights

George H.W. Bush - Licence To Kill

Bill Clinton - GoldenEye, Tomorrow Never Dies, The World Is Not Enough

George W. Bush - Die Another Day, Casino Royale, Quantum Of Solace

Barack Obama - Skyfall, Spectre

Donald Trump -

Joe Biden - No Time To Die

Counting unofficial films, Casino Royale (1954) released during the Eisenhower administration, Casino Royale (1967) released during the Johnson administration, and Never Say Never Again released during the Reagan administration.

To be fair, part of this is due to the 007 franchise itself, which took an unusually long time to make a sequel to Spectre; the film could have opened in 2018, the same 3 year gap as the one between Skyfall and Spectre. If No Time To Die was released in its original November 2019 date, or if COVID-19 did not exist and it released in April 2020, Trump would have had a Bond film.


From Reddit's BoxOffice section: https://www.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/comments/jsuylb/mildly_interesting_trivia_donald_trump_will_be/
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Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Thu 12 Nov, 2020 11:46 am
@coldjoint,
Why does no-one trust district court Judge Robert Hanson - the source of the two years probation and $750 fine for that woman?
I mean, even if you had had such bad experiences at the Iowa District Court, your opinion isn't shared by most.
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snood
 
  4  
Thu 12 Nov, 2020 11:51 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:


One more source no one is going to listen to. The media is dead to half of America.


Do you consider the WSJ a reliable source?
coldjoint
 
  0  
Thu 12 Nov, 2020 11:52 am
Quote:

BIG: Rudy Giuliani Has Confirmed That Whistleblowers Have Emerged to Expose ‘Dominion’ Software

If this is true Trump will win the election. Let's hope it is and the whistle blowers stay alive. There are patriots out there and they are not Democrats.
Quote:
The coup against President Trump may be starting to unravel as whistleblowers come forward to expose the operations that took place behind the scenes to influence the vote. The deep state has to be nervous about these encouraging developments.


Quote:
BREAKING NEWS: @RudyGiuliani has confirmed whistleblowers from Dominion have come forward. OMG. They stole election. Switched votes from @realDonaldTrump. What did he really get? 81 MM votes? 91 MM? But they stole it. Biggest scandal in world history. Got ‘em!

— Wayne Allyn Root (@RealWayneRoot) November 11, 2020

https://bigleaguepolitics.com/big-rudy-giuliani-has-confirmed-that-whistleblowers-have-emerged-to-expose-dominion-software/


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hightor
 
  7  
Thu 12 Nov, 2020 12:00 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
One more source no one is going to listen to.

Oh really?
Quote:
The media is dead to half of America.

You mean half of the USA is dead to any news stories which don't conform to the MAGA playbook.
izzythepush
 
  2  
Thu 12 Nov, 2020 12:04 pm
@hightor,
I don’t think all seventy million idiots who voted for Trump can be that childish and stupid.

It’s like one big temper tantrum.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Thu 12 Nov, 2020 12:06 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

Quote:
One more source no one is going to listen to.

Oh really?
Quote:
The media is dead to half of America.

You mean half of the USA is dead to any news stories which don't conform to the MAGA playbook.

The lying of the past four years, the documents that prove Flynn was framed, the revelation the Russian crap was a hoax thought up by Killary and ignored by Obama has forever sealed the medias fate. The censorship and now the blacklisting they support like on "the View" and various hacks on CNN and MSNBC will never be forgotten.

Shut up and obey is not what Americans do. But I do not expect to know what Americans do.
coldjoint
 
  1  
Thu 12 Nov, 2020 12:09 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

I don’t think all seventy million idiots who voted for Trump can be that childish and stupid.

It’s like one big temper tantrum.

It was more than 70 million. If that software is exposed it will be substantially more. And you are forgetting about the four year temper tantrum of the Democrats. I have always known you are a hypocrite and posts like that one prove it and remove all doubt.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Thu 12 Nov, 2020 12:11 pm
@hightor,
Half of America didn’t vote for Trump, leaving aside the 8 million+ more votes that Biden got, the population of the US is 328 million.

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snood
 
  2  
Thu 12 Nov, 2020 12:13 pm
@coldjoint,
With as many people who clearly hate anything related to Donald Trump, it’s difficult to understand why you think he couldn’t lose an election. More voted against than for him, and you just can’t believe it.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Thu 12 Nov, 2020 12:15 pm
@snood,
If you’re stupid enough to vote for Trump you’re stupid enough to believe his bullshit.
snood
 
  2  
Thu 12 Nov, 2020 12:27 pm
@izzythepush,
Yeah, stupid, crazy, mentally challenged... maybe a combo.
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coldjoint
 
  0  
Thu 12 Nov, 2020 12:31 pm
@snood,
Quote:

Do you consider the WSJ a reliable source?

Answer my question first. If the Supreme Court reverses the results of the election in PA and other recounts give Trump the electoral votes what will you do? I have already asked you and got no reply.

 

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