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Rebelofnj
 
  4  
Sun 8 Nov, 2020 08:59 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
The stress of being under criminal investigation can be a distraction. If the stress gets bad enough it can lead to suicides and broken marriages


You have some macabre fantasies.

I mean, Trump already ordered an investigation on Hunter Biden's business dealings, but that had very little effect on the election. Most right wing media outlets have already abandoned the Hunter Laptop story days ago.

Trump also failed to prosecute Hillary Clinton despite using "Lock Her Up" as a rally chant. If he failed to do that in the 4 years he was in office, and with the power of the Justice Department (with people he appointed in major leadership roles), I doubt he will be any more effective as a private citizen with his own lawyers.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Sun 8 Nov, 2020 09:02 pm
@Rebelofnj,
That wasn't a fantasy. I was stating facts.

You don't understand what an independent prosecutor is. It has nothing to do with private attorneys.

Do you remember the Mueller investigation? Mr. Mueller was not anyone's private attorney.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sun 8 Nov, 2020 09:18 pm
Quote:
Fake Votes, Fake Ballots discovered. Georgia Recount will be a win for Trump easily. Fake votes caught… Doug Collins on the Georgia Vote Count


Under the video on the You Tube page:
Quote:
The AP has called the Presidential race for Joe Biden. See more on Google.
Robust safeguards help ensure the integrity of elections and results. Learn more

That is juicy propaganda no doubt. Google does not tell you what is the law, or what isn't. The law itself does that.
The comments have been closed. I wonder why?

https://generaldispatch.whatfinger.com/fake-votes-fake-ballots-discovered-georgia-recount-will-be-a-win-for-trump-easily-fake-votes-caught-doug-collins-on-the-georgia-vote-count/
Rebelofnj
 
  3  
Sun 8 Nov, 2020 09:19 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
Do you remember the Mueller investigation? Mr. Mueller was not anyone's private attorney.


Except the Mueller investigation ultimately didn't affect Trump during his presidency. The report wasn't used in Trump's impeachment. Trump even said the report exonerated him.

But seriously, why didn't Trump prosecute Clinton during his presidency like he promised? And why did conservative media drop the Hunter Biden story, even though Trump ordered an investigation?
oralloy
 
  -3  
Sun 8 Nov, 2020 09:26 pm
@Rebelofnj,
Rebelofnj wrote:
Except the Mueller investigation ultimately didn't affect Trump during his presidency.

Sure it did. It was a major distraction.

But if you think that independent prosecutors are no problem, then there should be no objections if Mr. Trump appoints one or more of them to hound Mr. Biden.


Rebelofnj wrote:
The report wasn't used in Trump's impeachment. Trump even said the report exonerated him.

The investigation was still part of the overall witchhunt that the impeachment was also a part of.


Rebelofnj wrote:
But seriously, why didn't Trump prosecute Clinton during his presidency like he promised?

What advantage would there have been to pursuing such a prosecution?


Rebelofnj wrote:
And why did conservative media drop the Hunter Biden story, even though Trump ordered an investigation?

I'm unsure which story you are referring to. But I don't think I would know the answer to your question even if I did know which one you mean.
MontereyJack
 
  3  
Sun 8 Nov, 2020 09:32 pm
@oralloy,
Any attempted witch hunts against dems that trump may try to start will be deep sixed oncee he's out. But there's no way he can call off the SDNY as soon as he's gone. And when he defaults on the $400 million he owes and they seize his assets, he's gonna have many more wolves snapping at his heels, and nowhere to run.
MontereyJack
 
  3  
Sun 8 Nov, 2020 09:34 pm
@oralloy,
never a witchhunt. He broke laws, as he's done all his life. and it's finally caught up to him.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Sun 8 Nov, 2020 09:36 pm
@MontereyJack,
Wrong. When Democrats abuse the law to harm people who disagree with them, that's a witch hunt.

You have no evidence of any lawbreaking by Mr. Trump.
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sun 8 Nov, 2020 09:36 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:

never a witchhunt. He broke laws, as he's done all his life. and it's finally caught up to him.

Where is your PROOF?
https://able2know.org/topic/267070-1240#post-7078289
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Sun 8 Nov, 2020 09:38 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
Any attempted witch hunts against dems that trump may try to start will be deep sixed oncee he's out.

Wrong. Independent prosecutors would continue to investigate the Biden Administration until they are satisfied that they have uncovered the truth. Do you remember Mr. Trump ever managing to deep six the Mueller investigation?

However, I wouldn't mind seeing Mr. Biden start off his presidency by trying to obstruct criminal investigations. It will make his future impeachment much more straightforward once the Republicans retake the House in 2022.


MontereyJack wrote:
But there's no way he can call off the SDNY as soon as he's gone.

Outlawing the Democratic Party will put an end to their abuse of the law to harm people who disagree with them.


MontereyJack wrote:
And when he defaults on the $400 million he owes and they seize his assets, he's gonna have many more wolves snapping at his heels, and nowhere to run.

He doesn't need to run.

If he has to, he will declare bankruptcy and then use his losses to avoid paying taxes in the future. No big deal.
coldjoint
 
  0  
Sun 8 Nov, 2020 09:43 pm
https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/stg110220dAPR20201101094503.jpg
Rebelofnj
 
  4  
Sun 8 Nov, 2020 09:46 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
But if you think that independent prosecutors are no problem, then there should be no objections if Mr. Trump appoints one or more of them to hound Mr. Biden.


Trump could do so if he wants, though I doubt Biden will be stressed to the point of suicide. Like I said, Trump ordered an investigation on Hunter Biden before the election, but it seemed to have no effect on Joe Biden and his campaign.

Quote:
What advantage would there have been to pursuing such a prosecution?


Are you saying Trump lied about going after Clinton, just so he could get elected?

Quote:
I'm unsure which story you are referring to. But I don't think I would know the answer to your question even if I did know which one you mean.


It was the top story for Fox News and other right wing media outlets for the month of October. Coldjoint talked about it and posted links.
oralloy
 
  -3  
Sun 8 Nov, 2020 09:50 pm
@Rebelofnj,
Rebelofnj wrote:
Trump could do so if he wants, though I doubt Biden will be stressed to the point of suicide.

Probably not, but relentless criminal investigation could cause some suicides or broken marriages elsewhere in the Biden Administration if things go well.


Rebelofnj wrote:
Are you saying Trump lied about going after Clinton, just so he could get elected?

I don't know. I was just trying to answer your question to the best of my ability.

He may have. Politicians do that.


Rebelofnj wrote:
It was the top story for Fox News and other right wing media outlets for the month of October. Coldjoint talked about it and posted links.

There have been a number of Hunter Biden scandals. You could be asking about any one of them.
MontereyJack
 
  4  
Sun 8 Nov, 2020 09:52 pm
@coldjoint,
Every legal vote is being counted. that's why trump lost. because the country doesn't want him and voted for biden instead.
Rebelofnj
 
  3  
Sun 8 Nov, 2020 09:52 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
If he has to, he will declare bankruptcy and then use his losses to avoid paying taxes in the future. No big deal.


I don't think that is how bankruptcy works. Are we talking about corporate bankruptcy (which Trump has done multiple times) or personal bankruptcy (which Trump has never done yet)?
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Sun 8 Nov, 2020 09:56 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:

Every legal vote is being counted. that's why trump lost. because the country doesn't want him and voted for biden instead.


If every vote that was counted was legal Trump would have won. Biden won with illegal votes. Do I need to explain that to you?
MontereyJack
 
  3  
Sun 8 Nov, 2020 09:58 pm
@coldjoint,
No trump would not have won. Your math is faulty. Trump was rejected, as he has been in every election he has had a role in.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Sun 8 Nov, 2020 09:59 pm
https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/mle201031c20201031123616.jpg
Pretty much tells you who the racists are.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Sun 8 Nov, 2020 10:00 pm
@Rebelofnj,
Rebelofnj wrote:
I don't think that is how bankruptcy works.

People are allowed to declare past losses on their tax returns and use them to avoid paying taxes.


Rebelofnj wrote:
Are we talking about corporate bankruptcy (which Trump has done multiple times) or personal bankruptcy (which Trump has never done yet)?

Beats me. Whatever form of bankruptcy is appropriate for his situation (if any is needed at all).
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MontereyJack
 
  3  
Sun 8 Nov, 2020 10:00 pm
@coldjoint,
And biden's votes were legal, in spite of trump's smoke and mirrors trying and fsiling to discredit the election.
 

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