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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
oralloy
 
  -2  
Sun 8 Nov, 2020 05:42 pm
@Rebelofnj,
New York Times wrote:
But an alternative path was beginning to take shape in his mind, in case Mr. Biden prevailed.
Maybe the Republicans could impeach Mr. Biden. Maybe a Republican Senate could tie his hands for four years.

Both are good options. There are lots of ways for the American people to sabotage Mr. Biden's presidency and make him a failure.

It'll be up to Mr. Trump to appoint them. But if he does, independent prosecutors will be good as well.
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oralloy
 
  -1  
Sun 8 Nov, 2020 05:43 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
MontereyJack wrote:
From WaPo.

From WA Poo.

Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

Perfect. I'll have to remember that one.
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sun 8 Nov, 2020 05:59 pm
Look here at the difference in a county between votes for Biden and another Democrat on the ticket. Something is definitely wrong here.

And the top picture is a winner too.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmPfz9EVkAQiEsg.jpg

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1325135291791839232.html
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Sun 8 Nov, 2020 06:06 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Trump won’t be able to push through last-minute legislation because the Democrats control the House and there wouldn’t be enough time before the inauguration.

He will be able to appoint independent prosecutors to hound the Biden Administration with endless criminal investigations however, should he choose to do so.
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Sun 8 Nov, 2020 06:08 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:
Do y'all think we’re finally going to get to see those tax returns now? I for one would still like to get a look.

How is it any of your business?
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Sun 8 Nov, 2020 06:09 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:
Yeah, maybe the SDNY Attorney General can force it as a part of her pursuing Drumpf's prosecution.

The sooner the Democratic Party is outlawed, the sooner their witch hunts will end.
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oralloy
 
  -1  
Sun 8 Nov, 2020 06:10 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Since 1896 tradition (not law) demands that a losing candidate articulate four main themes in a concession speech: an acknowledgement of defeat, a call for unity, a celebration of democracy and a vow to continue the fight.

Concessions are for when you lose to someone who you respect.

Mr. Trump should drag the election out as long as he can with endless recounts and legal challenges. And then if those fail, he should not give Mr. Biden any acknowledgement whatsoever.
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Sun 8 Nov, 2020 06:11 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
Lotta people do exactly that in all elections. Only vote for one race and ignore the rest.

Michigan progressives do frequently fill only one box on the ballot. But what they fill is the "straight party vote" box that automatically votes for every Democrat on the ballot (except for judges), not the "presidential" box that votes for the presidency alone.
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coldjoint
 
  0  
Sun 8 Nov, 2020 06:16 pm
Quote:
CNN’s Van Jones is Terrified: Trump Wins As Long As He Doesn’t Concede


Quote:
Win Though Recounts & Lawsuits

The close race has triggered AUTOMATIC recounts in the following states.

Georgia has a recount
Pennsylvania has a recount
Nevada has a recount
Wisconsin has a recount
Michigan has a recount
Arizona has a recount

This is significant because the counts will be formalized and Trump should have equal representation of Republicans during counting to invalidate illegal ballots. As a result of poll workers pushing Republicans away from the ballot counting, there are an estimated 300,000 ballots that were not inspected by a Republican.

BREAKING: 300,000 ballots in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania were not inspected by a single Republican Poll Watcher!!!

This is FRAUD!
— Nick Adams (@NickAdamsinUSA) November 7, 2020

Furthermore, the Supreme Court ruled Pennsylvania has to section the ballots into two categories. Pennsylvania has ignored the first order, and now the Supreme Court issued a second demand. These ballots could be thrown out. It’s also possible that all ballots from that county could be thrown out if it’s impossible to differentiate the ballots because they ignored the court order.

BREAKING: Initial Supreme Court order to segregate ballots received after Election Day ignored by Pennsylvania counties, Justice Alito issues SECOND order to segregate and separately count these disputed ballots! Incredible corruption!
— Tom Fitton (@TomFitton) November 7, 2020

Additional Lawsuits

Limestone County already had 1 arrest for voter fraud
Pennsylvania has a USPS worker agreeing to testify in court that the supervisors were backdating
Others have agreed to testify and sign affidavits

Glitch in Michigan/Georgia
Pennsylvania/Georgia/Michigan not allowing Republican observers in (especially during that period on Election night when Biden skyrocketed)
450,000 Ballots that Miraculously ONLY have a Vote for Joe Biden

Dominion voting system has ties to Soros

Chairman of the Board of Smartmantics – Dominion Voting Systems manufactured voting machines used in Michigan, Georgia/33 U.S. states is Mark Malloch Brown, serves on the Open Societies Foundation Board (founded by George Soros- Malloch Brown's ties to Soros are strong and many.)
— Jack Flynn #NotAddingUp (@GoJackFlynn) November 8, 2020

Looks like evidence to me. If this was reversed and Trump did this who would you believe? Well, you shouldn't believe the Democrats or the media either.
https://www.toptradeguru.com/news/cnns-van-jones-fear-trump-wins-as-long-as-he-doesnt-concede/
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Sun 8 Nov, 2020 06:32 pm
@jcboy,
jcboy wrote:
Time for this country to heal.

You wish. It's time for the country to undermine and oppose the Biden Administration at every turn.
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Sun 8 Nov, 2020 06:33 pm
@Rebelofnj,
Rebelofnj wrote:
That is likely not going to significantly hinder the Biden Administration in any way.

Any crimes found can be prosecuted. People can be sent to prison. Presidents can be impeached.

The stress of being under criminal investigation can be a distraction. If the stress gets bad enough it can lead to suicides and broken marriages.

But anyway, if you don't think there will be any problems, then there should be no objections to appointing special prosecutors.


Rebelofnj wrote:
In addition, Trump will have his own legal troubles to deal with on his own.
So far, he has been protected by the executive office and "in January, he will lose the protections the U.S. legal system affords to a sitting president".

Outlawing the Democratic Party will put an end to their abuse of power to harm people who disagree with them.
Wilso
 
  2  
Sun 8 Nov, 2020 06:35 pm
Love this comment on future US-China relations

Quote:
"Biden fighting sensibly with 80 per cent of the commitment is going to cause China substantially more pain than Trump going 100 per cent stupid." said Jeffrey Wilson, the Research Director of the PerthUSAsia Centre.

"My view is the relationship will actually get worse under Biden because he'll hit them where it hurts rather than going for headlines and tweets."
oralloy
 
  -3  
Sun 8 Nov, 2020 06:38 pm
@Wilso,
It's more likely that Mr. Biden will just meekly surrender.
Wilso
 
  2  
Sun 8 Nov, 2020 07:00 pm
The poor right wing darlings are foaming at the mouth. There's medication that can deal with that.
snood
 
  3  
Sun 8 Nov, 2020 07:07 pm
@oralloy,
Trump and Putin are two of the few world leaders who haven’t already congratulated Joe Biden.
Proud company.
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Sun 8 Nov, 2020 07:22 pm
@vikorr,
vikorr wrote:
Has anyone started an 'evidence of fraud' thread? Because I haven't been able to find such.

The Democrats didn't need any evidence when they lynched Mr. Trump. I see no need for changing the rules and requiring evidence now.
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Sun 8 Nov, 2020 07:23 pm
@vikorr,
vikorr wrote:
I've rarely been interested in 'Mummy he hit me first" / "No. He hit me first" type arguments. To me the concept "He did it so its right for me to do it" holds no water. Put another way 'he got away with it so now its my turn - I wanna get away with it'. It's childish.

Childish maybe. But also necessary in order to ensure fair play in the long run.
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Sun 8 Nov, 2020 07:24 pm
@vikorr,
vikorr wrote:
Yep - which is precisely why I said one wrong does make another wrong right...which is precisely why I said the number of wrongs, or the details of the wrongs don't change that principle.

I hold to a different philosophy. I say that two wrongs do make a right.


vikorr wrote:
The past 'justification' is actually irrelevant to not accepting bad behaviour at any time.

I disagree. If you don't stand up to the bad guys and give them a taste of their own medicine then they will never stop being bad guys.
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knaivete
 
  1  
Sun 8 Nov, 2020 08:01 pm
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Sun 8 Nov, 2020 08:09 pm
@Wilso,
Wilso wrote:

The poor right wing darlings are foaming at the mouth. There's medication that can deal with that.

The evidence is running over the brim of the cup. Fraud will be proven.
 

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