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BillW
 
  -2  
Fri 30 Oct, 2020 04:54 pm
@neptuneblue,
neptuneblue wrote:

Yes, of course pjmedia.com is really on par with congressionaldigest.com. A blog versus scholar research.

What a crock.


.....but, normal for the course.....
coldjoint
 
  2  
Fri 30 Oct, 2020 05:36 pm
@neptuneblue,
neptuneblue wrote:

Yes, of course pjmedia.com is really on par with congressionaldigest.com. A blog versus scholar research.

What a crock.


What makes you think anything to do with Congress has any integrity or honesty?
coldjoint
 
  2  
Fri 30 Oct, 2020 05:37 pm
@BillW,
Quote:
.....but, normal for the course.....

Can't find anyone to gossip with? Try Izzy.
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neptuneblue
 
  0  
Fri 30 Oct, 2020 05:53 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
What makes you think anything to do with Congress has any integrity or honesty?


Well, we "could" outlaw the Republican party, then we wouldn't have to worry about that.
coldjoint
 
  2  
Fri 30 Oct, 2020 05:54 pm
@neptuneblue,
neptuneblue wrote:

coldjoint wrote:
What makes you think anything to do with Congress has any integrity or honesty?


Well, we "could" outlaw the Republican party, then we wouldn't have to worry about that.

We could do a lot of things.
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NealNealNeal
 
  3  
Fri 30 Oct, 2020 05:56 pm
@izzythepush,
I know that you are not an American.
However, we must make sure that America doesn't become as morally pitiful as Europe.
Because of you I have seen the disastrous results of moral decline.
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NealNealNeal
 
  3  
Fri 30 Oct, 2020 06:14 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

NealNealNeal wrote:

Izzy has confirmed to me how terribly dangerous the Democrat leftists are. If Biden wins, people will lose some of their Constitutional rights.
King Gavin has already threatened our First Amendment rights.

Democrats cannot work in the framework of our Constitution. There threats and policies make it pretty clear. yes
Yes. So the more radical Dems want to destroy the Constitution. And it is these radical Dems that have control of the Party.
RABEL222
 
  0  
Fri 30 Oct, 2020 07:19 pm
@NealNealNeal,
Do you think it will take the democrats as long to turn their party into a bunch of gangsters as it took the republicans?
coldjoint
 
  2  
Fri 30 Oct, 2020 07:30 pm
Quote:
NHL Hall of Famer Bobby Orr endorses President Trump for re-election: 'The kind of teammate I want'

Athletes from the years when sports were sports.
Quote:
"Everyone has an opinion as our upcoming Presidential election approaches, and I am no different. When I look at America during these turbulent times, I keep trying to separate style from substance, fact from fiction," the advertisement said. "This much I know. Our current President has had to operate under extremely difficult conditions over these past several years. In addition, no leader anywhere signed up with the idea that dealing with a worldwide pandemic would be a part of their mandate. The attacks on our president have been unrelenting since the day he took office. Despite that, President Trump has delivered for all American people, regardless of race, gender, or station in life.

These kind of endorsements change minds. They also reassure people that Trump puts the citizen first.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/bobby-orr-endorses-president-trump
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Builder
 
  1  
Fri 30 Oct, 2020 07:30 pm
@RABEL222,
They already were gangsters.

What they did to Libya's loved leader was criminal to the highest degree.

Left the nation in tatters. Invaded on "humanitarian" grounds? BS.
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neptuneblue
 
  0  
Fri 30 Oct, 2020 07:36 pm
US shatters daily coronavirus record with nearly 90,000 new infections
Country approaches world-topping 9m cases as experts warn death rates could more than double by mid-January


Miranda Bryant in New York

Fri 30 Oct 2020 13.15 EDTLast modified on Fri 30 Oct 2020 18.56 EDT

Hospitalisations are soaring in all but 11 states, according to the Covid Tracking Project, with more than 46,000 people in hospital on Thursday.

The US has shattered the daily coronavirus record, with almost 90,000 new infections reported on Thursday and close to 1,000 deaths, as the country surged past a world-topping 9m cases and experts warned of death rates more than doubling by mid-January.

The sobering data and scientific outlook show a pandemic veering further out of control in America even as the president and his son hammered a public message dismissing the grim realities.

On Friday, the total number of cases in the US hit 9,018,000, according to figures from Johns Hopkins University. So far, 228,677 people have died in the country, the highest figure in the world by a significant margin.

The US recorded its highest one-day total of new coronavirus infections of the pandemic, with 88,521 new cases reported on Thursday – a rise of 9,540 on the previous day. The death toll for the 24-hour period was 971.

Hospitalisations are soaring in all but 11 states, according to the Covid Tracking Project, with more than 46,000 people in hospital on Thursday and a number of states setting up overflow field hospitals and governors sending military helpers.

Donald Trump responded to the surge with a Friday morning tweet blaming case numbers on increased testing. “More Testing equals more Cases. We have best testing. Deaths WAY DOWN. Hospitals have great additional capacity! Doing much better than Europe. Therapeutics working!”

His eldest son, Donald Trump Jr, said in an interview on Fox that deaths were “almost nothing”.

But experts warned that conditions are likely to worsen sharply going into winter and predicted that death rates could more than double by mid-January.

The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University School of Medicine said in its latest forecast that the death toll could hit 514,000 by the middle of January and added it was most likely that by that time 2,250 Americans will be dying every day from Covid-19, more than twice the current rate.

“The fall/winter surge should lead to a daily death toll that is approximately three times higher than now by mid-January. Hospital systems, particularly ICUs, are expected to be under extreme stress in December and January in 18 states,” it said.

The president continued to insist that the US was “rounding the turn”, arguing against taking stricter measures to combat the pandemic and told a campaign rally on Saturday “you don’t see death”.

“This is the hardest point in this pandemic right now – the next two months,” Scott Gottlieb, the former commissioner of the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA), told CNN.

But with the election just days away, cases are soaring in every competitive state. In 13 potential swing states the weekly average of news cases has risen 45% in the last fortnight and Iowa, Michigan, Minnesota and Pennsylvania have recently reached new weekly average highs.

In Utah, Gary Herbert, the governor, said hospitals “cannot keep up” with the infection rate. He tweeted: “You deserve to understand the dire situation we face.” And he warned that the state could face a similar fate to parts of Italy back in March or New York, where New York City became the world hotspot in the early spring.

Utah was one of 14 states to report record increases in deaths this month and among 30 states that reported record increases in cases.

Trump has been campaigning repeatedly in Wisconsin in recent weeks despite local elected officials and doctors begging him not to, as crowds turn up, jostling and not wearing masks. He was due to hold another rally there on Friday afternoon.

“There is no way to sugarcoat it: we are facing an urgent crisis, and there is an imminent risk to you, your family members, your friends, your neighbors,” said Wisconsin’s governor, Tony Evers.

At a drive-in rally in Florida on Thursday, the Democratic presidential candidate, Joe Biden, said Trump “has given up” on tackling coronavirus.

“He is doing nothing. We’re learning to die with it and Donald Trump has waved the white flag, abandoned our families and surrendered to the virus,” he added. “But the American people don’t give up, we don’t give in and we surely don’t cower, and nor will I under any circumstances.”

The country reported a record of more than 500,000 new coronavirus cases in the past week.

Half of US counties saw new cases peak during the past month. Almost a third saw a record in the past week.

Reported deaths can lag case numbers by weeks. But already deaths are increasing in about half of states.

In the past month, about a third of US counties hit a daily record of more deaths than any other time during the pandemic, the New York Times reported.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/30/us-daily-coronavirus-record-cases-deaths
coldjoint
 
  2  
Fri 30 Oct, 2020 07:42 pm
@neptuneblue,
Quote:
US shatters daily coronavirus record with nearly 90,000 new infections
Country approaches world-topping 9m cases as experts warn death rates could more than double by mid-January

We are still doing better than countries in Europe. I guess you did not see the charts I posted.
https://able2know.org/topic/355218-4876#post-7074095

The responsible party is China. Biden will have no more luck with an airborne virus. This is just more panic porn from the media.
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neptuneblue
 
  0  
Fri 30 Oct, 2020 07:52 pm
President Trump's split with health advisers on coronavirus fuels speculation of shake-up
CDC Director Redfield said he's committed to an agency "grounded in data."
ByAnne Flaherty
October 30, 2020, 7:23 PM

As the novel coronavirus tightens its grip on the nation, President Donald Trump is insisting that Americans are ready to move past the crisis -- a message almost entirely at odds with his own top health advisers, who continue to warn the toughest months lie ahead.

The fractured messaging has invited speculation that if Trump is reelected he would consider purging political appointees at the federal agencies leading the nation's response to the virus in favor of loyalists who share his worldview.

"We're doing very well with respect to making the turn on the pandemic," Trump declared again on Friday, comments he made last April and again in July, even as death rates have climbed. He later added that the corner would be rounded without the vaccine.

"You know, without it, we're still rounding the corner," he told a crowd in Michigan. "We have [a vaccine]. But without it, we'll round the corner."

Just days earlier, Adm. Brett Giroir, Trump's appointee to coordinate COVID testing and a member of the White House coronavirus task force, said something entirely different.

"I just want to be straight with the listeners that we are not going to completely defeat the virus until we get a vaccine, and that vaccine is distributed to the American people," Giroir told reporters on a press call. "And we build up herd immunity in the appropriate way by getting a vaccine."

When asked if Trump is considering shaking up his appointees in another term, White House deputy press secretary Brian Morgenstern would only say that Trump and the task force have been working together to end the pandemic since the beginning.

"Their actions have ensured that our country will defeat the virus and safely reopen," he said.

As Trump stares down a potential four more years in the White House, the president is clearly ready for a reset after months of the virus dragging down the economy and frightening voters. When he speaks about the virus on the trail, it's almost entirely on political terms -- insisting Democrat Joe Biden would shutter the country and destroy the economy while teasing mask wearers as "politically correct."

While his top advisers deliver an entirely different message -- that the country is at a dangerous tipping point and that masks and social distancing are the best available option -- the question then becomes what Trump will do with his own federal task force on coronavirus after the election, especially if he is reelected.

Dr. Deborah Birx, who is in charge of coordinating the task force, no longer briefs the public from the White House and has instead been doing her job almost entirely from the road, visiting state houses and meeting with local health officials. Dr. Robert Redfield, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and Health Secretary Alex Azar, both members of the task force, held a rare press conference at CDC headquarters in Atlanta last week to sound the alarms.

"The pandemic is not over," Redfield declared.

Citing several administration sources, The Washington Post reported on Friday that Redfield is expected to leave or be asked to resign shortly after the election, no matter the result. ABC News could not immediately confirm the report.

In a statement to ABC News, Redfield praised the agency workforce, adding, "I will do everything in my power to support them as I maintain my commitment to lead this agency grounded in data, science, and public service."

Another open question is the fate of Stephen Hahn, the head of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, which will decide when a vaccine is ready for public consumption. He reportedly provoked the ire of the White House this month when he insisted upon tough new guidance for vaccine makers to ensure their vaccines are safe. The White House dropped their objection.

Trump tweeted at Hahn earlier this month, calling his regulatory decision a "political hit job."

"New FDA Rules make it more difficult for them to speed up vaccines for approval before Election Day. Just another political hit job! @SteveFDA," Trump tweeted.


Hahn never responded directly to the president, but continues to defend his work.

"We're not going to rush something that's so important to get right. There will be no shortcuts to our standards for product quality, safety, and efficacy," Hahn tweeted this week.

Trump has often relied on advisement from radiologist Scott Atlas from Stanford's Hoover Institute. Atlas advocates for the idea of allowing the virus to spread rapidly among healthy populations while shielding more vulnerable groups -- an idea that the nation's top public health experts say is nearly impossible and would result in unacceptable death tolls.

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's top infectious disease expert and director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, has repeatedly shot down the idea of trying to embrace "herd immunity" without a vaccine as "nonsense."

He warned this week the nation could be on track to hit 100,000 cases a day and half a million deaths by February unless the country takes the virus more seriously.

As a career employee who has served across multiple administrations, Fauci could not be pushed out easily by Trump.

"We've got to work together as a country. We've all got to be on the same page; we've got to pull together to do something about this," he said in an interview this week with Rolling Stone editor Jeff Goodell.

The split viewpoints come as the numbers in the U.S. are grim. There are 43 states and territories on an upward trajectory with cases, while a quarter of the nation's hospitals report that 80% of beds in intensive care units are filled.

On deaths -- the same day Donald Trump Jr. claimed deaths fell to "almost nothing" -- 1,049 Americans were counted as dead due to complications from COVID-19.

Public health officials tracking the epidemic say the total number of deaths -- at least 229,293 as of Friday afternoon -- is likely undercounted because likely cases aren't being reported and people are going undiagnosed.

According to the CDC, the U.S. experienced more than 299,000 excess deaths this year compared to mortality rate in prior years.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-trumps-split-health-advisers-coronavirus-fuels-speculation/story?id=73923686
BillW
 
  0  
Fri 30 Oct, 2020 08:07 pm
@RABEL222,
RABEL222 wrote:

Do you think it will take the democrats as long to turn their party into a bunch of gangsters as it took the republicans?

theRumps gangsta' mob, for the most part, were already crooks before Rumpster assigned them positions in his criminal organization.
roger
 
  0  
Fri 30 Oct, 2020 08:13 pm
@BillW,
I think Rabel poses a darn good question. Trump and crowd has given us all lessons on what a president and his cronies can get away with. I'm very much afraid that his influence will linger after he's gone.
coldjoint
 
  3  
Fri 30 Oct, 2020 08:32 pm
@roger,
roger wrote:

I think Rabel poses a darn good question. Trump and crowd has given us all lessons on what a president and his cronies can get away with. I'm very much afraid that his influence will linger after he's gone.

Exactly what have they gotten away with?
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oristarA
 
  0  
Fri 30 Oct, 2020 10:18 pm
@neptuneblue,
Quote:
Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's top infectious disease expert and director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, has repeatedly shot down the idea of trying to embrace "herd immunity" without a vaccine as "nonsense."


Fauci is correct. The Lancet, one of the most prestigious medical journals in the world, rejects "herd immunity (by natural infections)" as "a dangerous fallacy unsupported by scientific evidence" in a correspondence published on Oct.15, 2020.

Builder
 
  3  
Fri 30 Oct, 2020 10:24 pm
@oristarA,
Quote:
The Lancet, one of the most prestigious medical journals in the world, rejects "herd immunity" as "a dangerous fallacy unsupported by scientific evidence" in a correspondence published on Oct.15, 2020.


Which goes against the vaccine industry's claims completely. They say that herd immunity, through mandatory vaccinations, is the key. Go figure.

Source
coldjoint
 
  3  
Fri 30 Oct, 2020 10:33 pm
@oristarA,
oristarA wrote:


Quote:
Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's top infectious disease expert and director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, has repeatedly shot down the idea of trying to embrace "herd immunity" without a vaccine as "nonsense."


Fauci is correct. The Lancet, one of the most prestigious medical journals in the world, rejects "herd immunity" as "a dangerous fallacy unsupported by scientific evidence" in a correspondence published on Oct.15, 2020.

Lancet also published a study damning HCL. They had to retract it. They have done a few questionable things when it comes to Covid.
oristarA
 
  1  
Fri 30 Oct, 2020 10:35 pm
@Builder,
Have you misunderstood my information or have you deliberately distorted it?

The herd immunity I mentioned particulary refers to "the herd immunity by natural infections", not by vaccinations. I've edited it. Read it again.
 

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