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Builder
 
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Mon 19 Oct, 2020 03:06 pm
@hightor,
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Nope. Intelligence agencies discovered the contacts and thought it might pose a security risk.


But knowing that his SoS was using an unsecured private server was fine, and he knowingly used it too.

Quote:
Obama would have been lax not to allow them to investigate further.


Sure, it's fine to investigate a political rival, but ignore your own VP's actions, and those of your SoS.

Quote:
Wrong again. You've been snookered.


Wrong again. It's headline news, but you can choose to ignore it. That's your modus operandi.



hightor
 
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Mon 19 Oct, 2020 03:26 pm
@Builder,
Quote:
But knowing that his SoS was using an unsecured private server was fine...

Apparently it was.
Quote:
It's headline news...

That really does nothing to establish its veracity.
coldjoint
 
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Mon 19 Oct, 2020 03:37 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

Quote:
But knowing that his SoS was using an unsecured private server was fine...

Apparently it was.
Quote:
It's headline news...

That really does nothing to establish its veracity.


You will not admit to any wrongdoing by these people because it would mean admitting you consider them above the law.

You could not do more damage to our justice system as these people flaunt their law breaking as political pundits laughing in the face of American justice. And one campaigns for a senile corrupt Biden.
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blatham
 
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Mon 19 Oct, 2020 03:47 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Thanks Walter. I'll check them out.
coldjoint
 
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Mon 19 Oct, 2020 04:24 pm
https://lidblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/4j1alh-e1603115702986.jpg
Quote:
Biden Back In Basement Until After Thurs. Debate-Is He Hiding From Hunter Stories?

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The next presidential debate between Donald Trump and Joe Biden is set for Thursday. Biden will apparently “not be seen again” in public until he shows up on the debate stage. Is he studying for the debate, or is he hiding for an onslaught of more stories about Joe using his V.P. office to help his son Hunter? According to sources, there is much more coming. Will it becoming before the debate? Biden in hiding

Could it be that he needs that many days to prepare for the onslaught of questions he’ll be asked about son Hunter’s emails and business dealings with foreign companies? Possibly. The moderator, a Liberal from NBC News, probably will ignore the Hunter story, but you know President Trump won’t ignore the Hunter laptop.

https://lidblog.com/biden-in-basement/
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blatham
 
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Mon 19 Oct, 2020 04:26 pm
@blatham,
Re Qanon's origins... this is helpful

And the wikipedia page is as well.
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oralloy
 
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Mon 19 Oct, 2020 04:29 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
oh so much more, all of it unworkable and despised by the public.

Health Savings accounts work very well in Singapore.

I doubt that anyone can produce evidence that people despise health savings accounts.

I doubt that anyone can produce a convincing argument against the use of health savings accounts.
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oralloy
 
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Mon 19 Oct, 2020 04:30 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
The median wealth of Singapore is significantly higher than that of the USA , the country is smaller, unemployment is lower, crime rates are lower, ethnic diversity is lower, and poverty rates are lower. The fact that the system works well in that tiny country doesn't mean that it would work well here.

All nations differ in various ways.

Can anyone produce a sound argument as to why health savings accounts wouldn't work here?
oralloy
 
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Mon 19 Oct, 2020 04:34 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
Nope. Intelligence agencies discovered the contacts and thought it might pose a security risk. Obama would have been lax not to allow them to investigate further.

Are you referring to contacts by Mr. Manafort?

Or are you referring to contacts by Mr. Trump's relatives and close associates?

If you are referring to contacts by Mr. Trump's relatives and close associates, Mr. Obama knew that there was no security risk, and he deliberately misconstrued the contacts in order to make it falsely look like a possible security risk.

Mr. Obama did this in order to conduct an illegal investigation into his political rivals.
oralloy
 
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Mon 19 Oct, 2020 04:37 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
First thing, there's no such person as "Killary" -- why don't you grow the **** up?

No. Just no.

A world where progressives act the way they do towards Mr. Trump is not a world where progressives have any right to have their leaders treated with any sort of respect whatsoever.
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coldjoint
 
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Mon 19 Oct, 2020 05:01 pm
@engineer,
engineer wrote:

Interesting read.

Why People Who Hate Trump Stick With Him

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Since 2018, I’ve conducted roughly 50 focus groups with Trump voters who rate the president as doing a “very bad job” or a “somewhat bad job,” to understand the shifting dynamics within my own political party. (I’m a lifelong Republican.) In 2020, I narrowed my research primarily to white women in swing states who give him the lowest performance grade.


A piece from the Atlantic automatically lacks credibility when it comes to Trump. Being there is no more journalistic ethic this just another hit piece directed at Trump and the Americans who support Trump.
coldjoint
 
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Mon 19 Oct, 2020 05:23 pm
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Biden Is So Far Behind Trump In Reality – The Media Wants You To Think Otherwise

It shows at his rare appearances. This is an opinion but a good one based on the Democrats and the media past performance.
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The more the propaganda wing of the far left loses credibility with the public, the more panicked they become.

The more panicked they become, the more insane and over the top their “news” gets.

The more insane their news gets, the more credibility they lose with the public.

They are caught in a vicious cycle and will remain so until they either unshackle themselves from the radical left or collapse entirely.

He is right.

Quote:

I just don’t get because the media seems blissfully unaware that freedom of speech and freedom of the press are among the first rights abolished!


https://thepoliticalinsider.com/biden-is-so-far-behind-trump-in-reality-the-media-wants-you-to-think-otherwise/
coldjoint
 
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Mon 19 Oct, 2020 05:39 pm
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkuIbMwWAAEAacM?format=png&name=900x900
Did Russia draw up this bill and force Hunter to sign it? Laughing Laughing Laughing
Rudy has released the receipt.
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MontereyJack
 
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Mon 19 Oct, 2020 06:20 pm
@coldjoint,
the "[p;iticalinsider" seems blissfully unaware of reality and is inventing a completely false world. Treump was rejected by the voters in 2016 and has done absolutely nothing to gain lmore voters. the polls which are samp;ings of actual voters have showed that consistently for four years. He lost the House in 18 and won't get it back this years. And the senate and the white house look quite likely to slip out of repub hands as well. thatr's simply reality. trying to painyt dems and biden as radical leftists isn
t workint working with the publivc because they aren't, except to someone jho'/s so far out in right field he can't even see the ballpark. As usual joiint gets his talking points from the loopiest of the alternative press.
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MontereyJack
 
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Mon 19 Oct, 2020 06:25 pm
@coldjoint,
so the author is a lifelong republican and he's talked to actual women voters and got their actual reactions to trump, and you say it's just another hit piece on trump with no hint of journalistic ethics.. Seems to me you're the one with no sense of journalistic ethics, or crdibvility yourself, but pure blind toadyism instead.
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MontereyJack
 
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Mon 19 Oct, 2020 06:35 pm
@oralloy,
Trump and kellyanne conway among others totallyu flatly said over and over again there were no contacts with russians before his inauguration. Turned out there were something like forty contacts, and most of his foreign policy advisers had close association with russian government and intelligence officals. Hightor is absolutely right, the trump campaign was riddled with security risks and our spy guys would have been totally endangering national security not to look into the riussian connection..
coldjoint
 
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Mon 19 Oct, 2020 06:38 pm
@MontereyJack,
Laughing Laughing Laughing
Are you kidding? The Russia crap was a scam. It has been exposed and the people who keep bringing it up know that. Why don't you?

They just hope people are still stupid enough to believe it. Those numbers have dropped significantly.
oralloy
 
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Mon 19 Oct, 2020 06:39 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
Trump and kellyanne conway among others totallyu flatly said over and over again there were no contacts with russians before his inauguration. Turned out there were something like forty contacts, and most of his foreign policy advisers had close association with russian government and intelligence officals.

There was nothing suspicious about any of the contacts by people close to Mr. Trump.


MontereyJack wrote:
Hightor is absolutely right,

No he isn't. Mr. Obama fabricated imaginary dangers in order to launch an illegal investigation into the activities of his political opponent.


MontereyJack wrote:
the trump campaign was riddled with security risks and our spy guys would have been totally endangering national security not to look into the riussian connection..

There is no justification for Mr. Obama fabricating imaginary dangers in order to launch an illegal investigation of his political opponent.
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MontereyJack
 
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Mon 19 Oct, 2020 06:41 pm
@oralloy,
well, for one thing, Way too many millions of americans literlly live from paycheck to paycheck and can'''t put sdie enoughto cover basic medical expenses, let alone catastrophic ones. The major cause of personal bankruptcy in the usa is catstrophic medical expenses, and something like 60
oralloy
 
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Mon 19 Oct, 2020 06:42 pm
@MontereyJack,
Catastrophic expenses are amply covered by insurers in systems that use health savings accounts.
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