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snood
 
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Sat 3 Oct, 2020 02:45 pm
When I stand back and look at what is happening, it’s staggering.

Our adversaries don’t have to attack us with conventional weaponry, or try to usurp us with an onslaught of cyber-mischief, or even infect us with some super-deadly biological weapon.

Our “leaders” spared them all that trouble by willingly walking right into the jaws of the worst pandemic in a century. They gathered closely in groups, and spoke closely into each other’s faces, and hugged and shook hands in the midst of the raging virus. And they encouraged others to do the same thing - to the point that being cautious is (or was) being ridiculed openly.
The abysmal, galactic stupidity and hubris.

It’s really astonishing when you think about it.
coldjoint
 
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Sat 3 Oct, 2020 03:34 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:

When I stand back and look at what is happening, it’s staggering.

Our adversaries don’t have to attack us with conventional weaponry, or try to usurp us with an onslaught of cyber-mischief, or even infect us with some super-deadly biological weapon.

Our “leaders” spared them all that trouble by willingly walking right into the jaws of the worst pandemic in a century. They gathered closely in groups, and spoke closely into each other’s faces, and hugged and shook hands in the midst of the raging virus. And they encouraged others to do the same thing - to the point that being cautious is (or was) being ridiculed openly.
The abysmal, galactic stupidity and hubris.

It’s really astonishing when you think about it.

No they don't. The threat to America is coming from the inside, our manipulating media and political activists in our bureaucracy and corrupt progressives and Democrats are doing their best to destroy this country.

One look at their policies should tell you that.
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roger
 
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Sat 3 Oct, 2020 04:06 pm
@BillRM,
True, there are only so many people involved in a conspiracy that can keep there mouths shut. Still, these people are all dependent on government payroll, and Trump is known to be one vengeful sob.

Sturgis's thought could well be right.
Sturgis
 
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Sat 3 Oct, 2020 04:10 pm
@roger,
The last few years have shown the nature of several persons. Many of whom, even though on a different side politically, were still somewhat dcent. Now they all bow, scrape and pray to their golden idol.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Sat 3 Oct, 2020 04:29 pm
@Sturgis,
"... bow and scrape ..." Sure seems that way to me, also.
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coldjoint
 
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Sat 3 Oct, 2020 04:43 pm
@Sturgis,
Sturgis wrote:

The last few years have shown the nature of several persons. Many of whom, even though on a different side politically, were still somewhat dcent. Now they all bow, scrape and pray to their golden idol.

The idol is America, not Trump. Trump wants to keep an America that fulfills its promise to future generations, Democrats don't.
BillRM
 
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Sat 3 Oct, 2020 04:45 pm
@roger,
roger wrote:

True, there are only so many people involved in a conspiracy that can keep there mouths shut. Still, these people are all dependent on government payroll, and Trump is known to be one vengeful sob.

Sturgis's thought could well be right.


Lord we are talking about highly train med techs of one kind or the other so I question how hard it would be to replaced a government paycheck if need be.

To say nothing of leaking to the press in such a way as it would be very hard to find the leakers .
BillW
 
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Sat 3 Oct, 2020 05:02 pm
@BillRM,
I put absolutely nothing past Donald tRump. Howsever, I have to agree with BillRM!

This is simply an action theRump could just as easily stayed in the White House if he was pulling a farce. As he got sicker, the hospital was a requirement. The doctors face many problems if they become actors in this farce.

BTW, before he went to the hospital, I was thinking it maybe an attempt to get more votes because he would have said he beat the tRumpVirus his way!

Then again, with such mixed messages and lies out of the Whitehouse; (don't forget the WH doctor is the one doing all the talking), who knows. Also, Mark Meadows says the pResident is not on a clear path to recovery and the next 48 hours are critical.
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MontereyJack
 
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Sat 3 Oct, 2020 05:53 pm
@coldjoint,
THAT'S BECAUSE DEMOCRATS MAKE FAR BETTER PROMISES THAT THEY MEAN TO KEEP.
MontereyJack
 
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Sat 3 Oct, 2020 05:59 pm
@coldjoint,
Trump has never had a majority of american voters. Never. He doesn't have a majority now. Nol matter his bluff, bluster, hate, and lies, he's never managed to win the country over. What ,makes you think he's going to now, when his whole pandemic liefest has landed him in Walter Reade.
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coldjoint
 
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Sat 3 Oct, 2020 06:37 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:

THAT'S BECAUSE DEMOCRATS MAKE FAR BETTER PROMISES THAT THEY MEAN TO KEEP.

But never keep them.
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BillW
 
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Sat 3 Oct, 2020 06:44 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:

THAT'S BECAUSE DEMOCRATS MAKE FAR BETTER PROMISES THAT THEY MEAN TO KEEP.


MJ, they mean to keep them and a majority of the citizens want them! However, a rather small group of Repubs under the thumb of the minority, very rich thwart their very good intentions.
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Sturgis
 
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Sat 3 Oct, 2020 11:41 pm
I'm wondering what the exact process is/would be if for some reason Trump dies/kicks off on November 3 at 1 second past midnight. Where do those votes go?

If it automatically then becomes Pence, who becomes Vice President?

oralloy
 
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Sat 3 Oct, 2020 11:48 pm
@Sturgis,
Twenty Fifth Amendment, Section 2:

"Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress."
Sturgis
 
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Sat 3 Oct, 2020 11:51 pm
@oralloy,
That I knew.
However, I'm curious to how the election results would be properly and fairly tabulated, given that Pence is not the actual candidate.
oralloy
 
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Sun 4 Oct, 2020 12:28 am
@Sturgis,
Mr. Pence is the actual candidate for VP.
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roger
 
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Sun 4 Oct, 2020 12:53 am
@Sturgis,
Me, too. Trump was nominated. He selected Pence as a running mate. I think I'll put that one in the-wait-and see column.

The worry is that Pence is not only smarter than Trump; he seems to believe every thing he says - which so far, isn't much.
BillW
 
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Sun 4 Oct, 2020 01:04 am
@roger,
....and, of course Pense was selected to secure his evangelical vote. Enough said there!
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oralloy
 
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Sun 4 Oct, 2020 01:51 am
@roger,
roger wrote:
Trump was nominated. He selected Pence as a running mate. I think I'll put that one in the-wait-and see column.

Mr. Pence is the duly elected VP. He will step in and become president if Mr. Trump is unable to fulfill his duties.
 

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