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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
  5  
Sat 3 Oct, 2020 04:55 am
@hightor,
It is still unclear where Trump was infected with the corona virus. The President has had numerous daily appointments over the past weeks.
But one of these events is: the nomination of Amy Coney Barrett as a Supreme Court judge. Trump had nominated the lawyer for the highest judicial office last Saturday, and since then at least seven participants have tested positive for the corona virus.
https://i.imgur.com/CMHyYqs.jpg
Photos showed guests standing together and hugging each other without masks and minimum distance. The nomination itself took place in the Rose Garden of the White House, i.e. outside. According to media reports, the guests also stayed indoors during the subsequent reception.

Besides the accumulation of positive infected persons, the time lapse is also striking. Corona-infected people develop symptoms on average five days after infection. After the nomination on Saturday, symptoms could have been expected on Thursday - which fits in quite well with the timing of Trump, who announced his infection on Friday.

Actual evidence of Trump's chain of infection has not yet been found. For example, he could have contracted the disease from Hope Hicks, with whom he is in close contact, and who tested positive on Wednesday. Hicks was not present when Barrett was nominated in the Rose Garden.
A completely different source of infection is also conceivable.
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blatham
 
  2  
Sat 3 Oct, 2020 06:33 am
Some good reporting on the protocols that the Trump people ignored and which has led to this present shitstorm https://wapo.st/3j0KrVW
Frank Apisa
 
  4  
Sat 3 Oct, 2020 07:01 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Some good reporting on the protocols that the Trump people ignored and which has led to this present shitstorm https://wapo.st/3j0KrVW


Interesting side aspect that I noticed: Trump seemed NOT to be wearing his lift shoes while walking out to the helicopter. He was walking upright instead of listing forward like he usually does. I suspect they asked him to use regular shoes rather than the elevator ones he usually has on...so that there were no accidents.
Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Sat 3 Oct, 2020 07:04 am
Trump played down the threat of the coronavirus in recent months and apparently did not believe he could be infected with the virus. This was revealed in an interview recording by Bob Woodward on 13 April.

'I'm just not': Trump told Woodward he wasn't concerned about catching Covid in newly released audio
Quote:
When Woodward pressed the President about whether he was worried about becoming infected, Trump dismissed concerns about his own health.
"You're risking getting it, of course," said Woodward. "The way you move around and have those briefings and deal with people. Are you worried about that?"
"No, I'm not. I don't know why I'm not. I'm not," the President responded.
"Why?" Woodward asked.
"I don't know," Trump said. "I'm just not."

Quote:
The recordings show that even in the early days of the pandemic, when relatively little was known about the virus, Trump recognized that he was part of a more vulnerable population. In an April 5 interview with Woodward, Trump explained that older people and those with "a condition" would be in "big trouble" if they contracted the disease.
"It moves rapidly, Bob. It moves rapidly and viciously. If you're the wrong person and if it gets you, your life is pretty much over if you're in the wrong group," Trump said.
"Well, that's our age group, isn't it sir?" Woodward asked.
"It's -- well, hopefully we're much younger than that, Bob. You look younger. But, but it's our age group. You know? Older, especially 80. Well, you're not anywhere near that," Trump replied.
Woodward is 77 and Trump, at the time, was 73. He turned 74 in June.
snood
 
  3  
Sat 3 Oct, 2020 07:40 am
@Walter Hinteler,
As the old saying goes, denial ain’t just a river in Egypt.
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Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Sat 3 Oct, 2020 07:41 am
I only now noticed that Trump was not infected with the 'Chinese Virus' or 'Kung Flu' but according to his tweet with "Covid-19". Shocked
snood
 
  7  
Sat 3 Oct, 2020 07:45 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Oh, he wouldn’t allow any **** hole country virus to infect him. Only the best viruses. A yuge virus. Nobody’s ever been infected by a bigger, better virus than this.
Region Philbis
 
  6  
Sat 3 Oct, 2020 07:49 am
@snood,

anyone who tests positive on american soil may heretofore refer to it as The Trump Virus...
snood
 
  7  
Sat 3 Oct, 2020 07:59 am
@Region Philbis,
Region Philbis wrote:


anyone who tests positive on american soil may heretofore refer to it as The Trump Virus...


That sounds about right
bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Sat 3 Oct, 2020 08:01 am
@Frank Apisa,
Bet he was 1-1/2" to 2" shorter.
oristarA
 
  3  
Sat 3 Oct, 2020 09:41 am
@snood,
snood wrote:

Region Philbis wrote:


anyone who tests positive on american soil may heretofore refer to it as The Trump Virus...


That sounds about right


Exactly. There is no way that The China Virus could approach and infect this very stable genius. Only The Trump Virus itself has the power.
Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Sat 3 Oct, 2020 10:44 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

Bet he was 1-1/2" to 2" shorter.


That would be my guess also. But nothing to compare him with. I just noticed that he seemed to be leaning forward less than usual.
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coldjoint
 
  -4  
Sat 3 Oct, 2020 11:32 am
@oristarA,
oristarA wrote:

snood wrote:

Region Philbis wrote:


anyone who tests positive on american soil may heretofore refer to it as The Trump Virus...


That sounds about right


Exactly. There is no way that The China Virus could approach and infect this very stable genius. Only The Trump Virus itself has the power.

It is not the "Trump virus" and it is a shitty thing to call it. Do they call it the Johnson virus or the Macron virus in the UK or France? None of them had one thing to do with it. China is the villain here.
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Sat 3 Oct, 2020 11:59 am
Quote:
59% of Cuban-Americans to Vote Trump, Only 25% Back Biden

Quote:
The FIU poll of Cuban-Americans has two kinds of bad news for Democrats, bad news, and really bad news.

90% of Cuban-Americans definitely plan to vote,

59% will vote for President Trump and only 25% for Biden.

Even among registered Democrats, 15% will vote for Trump.

While the media often insists that younger Cuban-Americans are more liberal, and it's true, but 55% of 18-39 year olds are still voting for Trump, as are 46% of Cubans born in America.

62% of Cuban-Americans strongly support Trump's handling of the economy, 42% on the coronavirus, 52% on China, 48% on Cuba, 39% on the protests, 37% on race relations, 44% on health care, and 64% on immigration.

The polls keep saying Trump is behind in Florida. I do not believe it. It is the ongoing campaign to demoralize Trump voters that is just not working.
https://www.frontpagemag.com/point/2020/10/59-cuban-americans-vote-trump-only-25-back-biden-daniel-greenfield/
coldjoint
 
  -4  
Sat 3 Oct, 2020 12:27 pm
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lmur
 
  4  
Sat 3 Oct, 2020 12:48 pm
At the briefing earlier today, a member of Trump's medical team said he was 'currently' not receiving oxygen. Which made me think that the question was anticipated and that - as soon as it was asked - the oxygen mask was instantaneously whipped off his face allowing the doc to truthfully answer the question!
izzythepush
 
  3  
Sat 3 Oct, 2020 01:21 pm
@lmur,
There are conflicting reports about how bad he is.

On the BBC long before Trump went down with Covid they say those with symptoms usually last a week before either recovering or needing to go to hospital. The fact that Trump needed to go to hospital after about a couple days which doesn’t look good.
Sturgis
 
  7  
Sat 3 Oct, 2020 01:55 pm
@izzythepush,
Considering the level of dishonesty consistently displayed by this "administration", it's not possible to know what is and isn't true.

Take exhibit 1 from yesterday. Trump, who was supposedly fatigued and under the weather, seemed damned healthy as he scurried to the helicopter.

Today there have been conflicting time frames (48 or 72 hours), oxygen claims (yes, no, not anymore...).

Since honesty has been so lacking the last few years, I cannot even truly believe that Trump is afflicted with Coronavirus. It might just be another gimmick, so he can get a questionable treatment to be heralded as a cure, prior to election day.



I was not this jaded or cynical ever before 2017.
BillRM
 
  2  
Sat 3 Oct, 2020 02:22 pm
@Sturgis,
Quote:
Since honesty has been so lacking the last few years, I cannot even truly believe that Trump is afflicted with Coronavirus. It might just be another gimmick, so he can get a questionable treatment to be heralded as a cure, prior to election day.


Interesting idea but I would think that too many medical people would need to go along with such a falsehood to made it likely to be correct.
hightor
 
  7  
Sat 3 Oct, 2020 02:44 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
It is the ongoing campaign to demoralize Trump voters that is just not working.

Bullshit. If anything it should inspire more Trump voters to come out and make their voices heard. What the hell kind of supporters desert their candidate because he's behind in the polls? Remember how far Biden was behind during the early primaries? That didn't stop his people from voting for him. Do you really think Trump's support is that shallow? Are MAGAtards just fair weather friends, ready to give up if it looks like their candidate isn't doing that well? Pathetic.
 

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