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oralloy
 
  -3  
Wed 30 Sep, 2020 12:41 am
@unable2know,
You are the liar. Any other questions?

Oh, and appeals to authority are logical fallacies, even when they are imaginary.
unable2know
 
  -3  
Wed 30 Sep, 2020 12:42 am
@neptuneblue,
The very definition of terrorism is to overthrow the established order which is exactly what the founding terrorists did. Right?
unable2know
 
  -3  
Wed 30 Sep, 2020 12:43 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
Your claim that free fall can only occur with a controlled demolition is untrue.



Explain. With evidence and examples.
oralloy
 
  -3  
Wed 30 Sep, 2020 12:46 am
@unable2know,
It is untrue because it's false. All a building needs for free fall is for the structure to collapse.
oralloy
 
  -3  
Wed 30 Sep, 2020 12:47 am
@unable2know,
unable2know wrote:
The very definition of terrorism is to overthrow the established order which is exactly what the founding terrorists did. Right?

Wrong. The very definition of terrorism is the deliberate targeting of civilians.

The Founding Fathers did no such thing.
unable2know
 
  -3  
Wed 30 Sep, 2020 12:48 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
You are the liar. Any other questions?


Yes the one you are studiously ignoring. Since you have ZERO evidence, ZERO KNOWLEDGE, ZERO scientific skills you stand as the liar calling people with scientific knowledge liars, eyewitnesses liars.

You are appealing to oralloy who has ZERO expertise, ZERO knowledge, ZERO evidence. You sink yourself with your every devoid of anything sensible post.
oralloy
 
  -3  
Wed 30 Sep, 2020 12:49 am
@unable2know,
You are the only person here who is lying. And you are the only person that I am calling a liar.
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unable2know
 
  -3  
Wed 30 Sep, 2020 12:51 am
@oralloy,
How does a building just collapse? That has NEVER happened in the long history of steel framed high rises, NEVER. Even NIST isn't trying to advance the ludicrous, childish notion you are advancing. Why does a body with ZERO expertise, like oralloy, try to make out he knows anything about these things.

[childish oralloy response coming]
oralloy
 
  -3  
Wed 30 Sep, 2020 12:53 am
@unable2know,
Did you somehow miss the airplane strikes and the huge fires that burned for hours?
unable2know
 
  -3  
Wed 30 Sep, 2020 12:57 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
Wrong. The very definition of terrorism is the deliberate targeting of civilians.


Another thing that you know ZERO about.

Terrorism is defined in the Code of Federal Regulations as “the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives”

which is exactly what the founding terrorists did.

Quote:
The Founding Fathers did no such thing.


It was in pursuit of these and other grand visions that Jefferson later would write of the remaining Indians in America that the government was obliged "now to pursue them to extermination, or drive them to new seats beyond our reach." For the native peoples of Jefferson's "rising nation," of his "beloved country"-far from being Bolivar's "legitimate owners"- were in truth, most Americans believed, little more than dangerous wolves. Andrew Jackson said this plainly in urging American troops to root out from their "dens" and kill Indian women and their "whelps," adding in his second annual message to Congress that while some people tended to grow "melancholy" over the Indians' being driven by white Americans to their "tomb," an understanding of "true philanthropy reconciles the mind to these vicissitudes as it does to the extinction of one generation to make room for another." -- D Stannard

Because Jefferson, the grand genocidist, thought that all men are created equal, right?
oralloy
 
  -3  
Wed 30 Sep, 2020 12:59 am
@unable2know,
You are the only person here who posts without knowing what he is talking about.

Terrorists deliberately target civilians.

The Founding Fathers did not target civilians.
FreedomEyeLove
 
  -2  
Wed 30 Sep, 2020 01:03 am
@oralloy,
Don't even waste your time on this troll Oralloy.
unable2know
 
  -3  
Wed 30 Sep, 2020 01:05 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
Did you somehow miss the airplane strikes and the huge fires that burned for hours?


Why are you bald faced lying again? Because it is in your nature. The twin towers did NOT burn for hours.

Did you somehow miss that the twin towers are not under discussion for they never fell at free fall acceleration? You really don't have the foggiest idea about any of this. It shows in your every childish response.

WTC7 fell at free fall acceleration. Man those Muslims are magical human beings. After being vaporized in the crashes they managed to do something that has NEVER occurred in the over 100 year history of steel framed high rises.
unable2know
 
  -2  
Wed 30 Sep, 2020 01:09 am
@oralloy,
Of course the founding terrorists targeted indigenous peoples. Lordy lord, you folks are so ignorant of your own deeply evil history.
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Before either Jefferson or Jackson, George Washington, the father of the country, had said much the same thing: the Indians were wolves and beasts who deserved nothing from the whites but "total ruin." And Washington himself was only repeating what by then was a very traditional observation. Less than a decade after the founding of the Massachusetts Bay Colony in 1630, for example, it was made illegal to "shoot off a gun on any unnecessary occasion, or at any game except an Indian or a wolf." As Barry Lopez has noted, this was far from a single-incident comparison. So alike did Indians and wolves appear to even the earliest land hungry New England colonist that the colonist "fell to dealing with them in similar ways":
He set out poisoned meat for the wolf and gave the Indian blankets infected with smallpox. He raided the wolf's den to dig out and destroy the pups, and stole the Indian's children .... When he was accused of butchery for killing wolves and Indians, he spun tales of Mohawk cruelty and of wolves who ate fawns while they were still alive.... Indians and wolves who later came into areas where there were no more of either were called renegades. Wolves that lay around among the buffalo herds were called loafer wolves and Indians that hung around the forts were called loafer Indians.
As is so often the case, it was New England's religious elite who made the point more graphically than anyone. Referring to some Indians who had given offense to the colonists, the Reverend Cotton Mather wrote: "Once you have but got the Track of those Ravenous howling Wolves, then pursue them vigourously; Turn not back till they are consumed.... Beat them small as the Dust before the Wind." Lest this be regarded as mere rhetoric, empty of literal intent, consider that another of New England's most esteemed religious leaders, the Reverend Solomon Stoddard, as late as 1703 formally proposed to the Massachusetts Governor that the colonists be given the financial wherewithal to purchase and train large packs of dogs "to hunt Indians as they do bears." There were relatively few Indians remaining alive in New England by this time, but those few were too many for the likes of Mather and Stoddard. "The dogs would be an extreme terror to the Indians," Stoddard wrote, adding that such "dogs would do a great deal of execution upon the enemy and catch many an Indian that would be too light of foot for us." Then, turning from his equating of native men and women and children with bears deserving to be hunted down and destroyed, Stoddard became more conventional in his imagery: "if the Indians were as other people," he acknowledged, ". . . it might be looked upon as inhumane to pursue them in such a manner"; but, in fact, the Indians were wolves, he said, "and are to be dealt withal as wolves." For two hundred years to come Washington, Jefferson, Jackson, and other leaders, representing the wishes of virtually the entire white nation, followed these ministers' genocidal instructions with great care. It was their Christian duty as well as their destiny.
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oralloy
 
  -3  
Wed 30 Sep, 2020 01:10 am
@FreedomEyeLove,
FreedomEyeLove wrote:
Don't even waste your time on this troll Oralloy.

JTT is insane, but I think he means well.

I enjoy sparing with him about Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Unfortunately he often diverts the subject to 9/11 conspiracies.
unable2know
 
  -3  
Wed 30 Sep, 2020 01:10 am
@FreedomEyeLove,
I thought you americans were supposed to be great debaters, FEL. What a corny name you chose, indicative of deep brainwashing.
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oralloy
 
  -4  
Wed 30 Sep, 2020 01:12 am
@unable2know,
unable2know wrote:
Why are you bald faced lying again? Because it is in your nature.

You are the only person here who is lying.


unable2know wrote:
The twin towers did NOT burn for hours.

Yes they did.
unable2know
 
  -2  
Wed 30 Sep, 2020 01:13 am
@oralloy,
Insanity is you lying your ass off, oralloy and then denying it.
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An engineer investigating the remains of the World Trade Center sees melted girders and other evidence that the towers experienced extreme temperatures on 9/11. Dr. Abolhassan Astaneh-Asl is a professor of civil and environmental engineering at the University of California, Berkeley.
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Are you going to lie about this evidence too?
oralloy
 
  -4  
Wed 30 Sep, 2020 01:13 am
@unable2know,
You are the only person here who is lying.

And yes, you are insane. But that's OK. So was the Joker.
unable2know
 
  -2  
Wed 30 Sep, 2020 01:14 am
@neptuneblue,
Quote:
my comprehensive


English is not your native language it seems.
 

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