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@oralloy,

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WTCs 1, 2 & 7 structural steel was both melted and vaporized.

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oralloy: No it wasn't.

FEMA, too, I suspect you have heard of them, also says you are a bald faced liar or a stunningly ignorant american. You can inform us all which it is.

You can see the same piece of WTC7 molten/vaporized structural steel at the following link.

https://www.fema.gov/pdf/library/fema403_apc.pdf

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@unable2know,

Note that the link shows steel that was neither molten nor vaporized.

The document that you linked is about steel that was corroded by some sort of chemical reaction.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

Yes, thinking is not easy. It requires effort. And brain.

Is that why progressives never do it? I knew there had to be a reason.

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@oralloy,

oralloy: No they don't.

You're flaming out. You provide us all with the ultimate example of just how deeply brainwashed americans are. Evidence from usa government sources, usa forensic engineering firms, from the USGS [see below], the NYTs, ... and still your brainwashing holds sway over rationality.

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. The USGS Report

In 2005, the United States Geological Survey (USGS) published a report entitled “Particle Atlas of World Trade Center Dust,” which was intended to aid the “identification of WTC dust components.” Among the components, it reported, were “metal or metal oxides” (which could not be distinguished by the USGS’s methods). “The primary metal and metal-oxide phases in WTC dust,” the report said, “are Fe-rich [iron-rich] and Zn-rich [zinc-rich] particles.” [26] The report included a micrograph of an “iron-rich sphere.” [27]
These iron-rich spherical particles – or “spherules,” as they are sometimes called – could only come about if iron is melted and then “sprayed into the air so that surface tension draws the molten droplets into near-spherical shapes.” [28]

Accordingly, the USGS report mentioned (without explaining) the existence of particles in the dust that should not have been there, according to the NIST explanation of the collapses.

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@unable2know,

Your imaginary evidence does not impress me.

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@oralloy,

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You may not have heard of gravity, but I assure you that it exists.

I have heard of adults exhibiting excessive childish behaviors but I have never seen such a stunning example as what you present here. Have you reached the age of majority?

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@unable2know,

There is nothing childish about pointing out facts to those who are unaware of reality.

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@oralloy,

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Note that the link shows steel that was neither molten nor vaporized.

Now you highlight your stunning ignorance. The FEMA sample is the very piece of molten/vaporized WTC7 structural steel that the NYTs talked about.

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but that this “would not explain,” according to Dr. Barnett, “steel members in the debris pile that appear to have been partly evaporated in extraordinarily high temperatures.”

"evaporate" means vaporized. Just as water can be boiled and evaporated so too can steel but it needs 5000+F temperatures. How did maximum 1500F fires [air temperatures, NOT steel temperatures] vaporize this piece of WTC7 steel?

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@oralloy,

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The document that you linked is about steel that was corroded by some sort of chemical reaction.

In this too, you illustrate your aforementioned/frequent stunning ignorance. There is a very good explanation for the corrosion because as you well know, the US Governments' Official Conspiracy IMPOSSIBLE Fable states categorically that the fires were never above 1500F. In fact, " Professor Thomas Eagar of MIT estimated that the fires were “probably only about 1,200 or 1,300°F".

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Well, Trump destroyed Biden in debate #1. Was expected, but good to see.

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@oralloy,

oralloy wrote:

Your imaginary evidence does not impress me.

I know I am just coughing in the wind, but please don't. Just, don't. It's not worth it.

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@oralloy,

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Walter Hinteler wrote:
Yes, thinking is not easy. It requires effort. And brain.

oralloy: Is that why progressives never do it? I knew there had to be a reason.

Not the sharpest pencil are you? You have been HIGHLIGHTING for us all exactly what Walter describes and then you bring it up and brag about being that very person Walter described.

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@McGentrix,

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I know I am just coughing in the wind, but please don't. Just, don't. It's not worth it.

Another person steps up to illustrate how deeply brainwashed americans are. Where is that much vaunted ability to rationally discuss the facts/evidence, McGentrix?

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@McGentrix,

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I know I am just coughing in the wind, but please don't. Just, don't. It's not worth it.

What kind of a person would not want to consider that their governments murdered some 6 or 7000 of their own citizens? Especially when one considers that there is NOT A SINGLE SHRED OF EVIDENCE that supports the US Governments' Official Conspiracy Fable.

Propaganda there was/is but when anyone with a functioning brain looks at the science and the evidence, ONLY those that have been deeply brainwashed still believe. So far we have two - McGentrix and oralloy.

Really, folks try thinking on for size. You might actually find that you want to spend a portion of your life free to think.

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I see JTT/Camlok has returned.

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@McGentrix,

Trump destroyed biden ... .

Is that the thought of a rational adult or a brainwashed repuglican?

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@McGentrix,

unable2know destroyed McGentrix and oralloy in the debates tonight. oralloy lied, bald faced a number iof times and McGentrix was a total flop, a no show, a typical cowardly american, from a group of folks who love to brag about what great debaters they all are.

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@unable2know,

Don't be so dishonest. You cannot provide any examples of an untrue statement from my posts.

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@McGentrix,

McGentrix wrote:

Well, Trump destroyed Biden in debate #1. Was expected, but good to see.

I only tuned in for the analysts after the debate. The analysts said that both acted like kindergartners and neither scored any points on the other.

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@McGentrix,

McGentrix wrote:

I know I am just coughing in the wind, but please don't. Just, don't. It's not worth it.

We'd been discussing Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but somehow the subject drifted.

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