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oralloy
 
  -2  
Tue 29 Sep, 2020 07:00 pm
@unable2know,
unable2know wrote:
"No one cared, so long as they were communists, that they were being butchered," said Howard Federspiel, who in 1965 was the Indonesia expert at the State Department's bureau of intelligence and research. "No one was getting very worked up about it."

Indonesia has absolutely nothing to do with Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Although it could be said that the atomic bombs were also defending the rest of the world, including Indonesia, in addition to defending the US.
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Tue 29 Sep, 2020 07:01 pm
@unable2know,
unable2know wrote:
Anyone here know how Muslims vaporized in crashes were able to melt and vaporize WTCs 1, 2 & 7 steel? How were they able to set up the controlled demolition of WTC7? Which brings us right back to - how were they able to set up the controlled demolitions of WTCs 1 & 2?

Get your facts straight. No steel was vaporized at the World Trade Center, and there were no controlled demolitions.
unable2know
 
  1  
Tue 29 Sep, 2020 07:14 pm
@oralloy,
On August 6, 1945, the U.S. dropped an atomic bomb on Hiroshima; three days later Nagasaki was hit. General Douglas MacArthur promptly declared southern Japan off-limits, barring the press. Over 200,000 people died in the atomic bombings of the cities, but no Western journalist witnessed the aftermath and told the story. Instead, the world’s media obediently crowded onto the USS Missouri off the coast of Japan to cover the Japanese surrender.

Democracy Now
======================

unable2know: And the usa did what it has always done, hide from the world its most ugly of brutalities, evil that is light years beyond what any country has ever done.

Americans are the ultimate unable2knowers.

Now why on earth would the usa, the bastion of freedom and openness, want to hide the glorious things they have done to the people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
============

New Book: "Atomic Cover-Up: Two U.S. Soldiers, Hiroshima & Nagasaki"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZYvodtZDTc
unable2know
 
  1  
Tue 29 Sep, 2020 07:16 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
Pol Pot had nothing to do with the atomic bombs.


But the usa had everything to do with creating, funding and supporting PolPot and the Khmer Rouge for two decades, all the while pretending in its always rank propaganda that it was shocked by the savagery when it actually glories in such brutality both for itself and for its always vicious right wing dictatorships.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Tue 29 Sep, 2020 07:19 pm
@unable2know,
What does that have to do with Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
unable2know
 
  1  
Tue 29 Sep, 2020 07:26 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
Get your facts straight. No steel was vaporized at the World Trade Center,


WTCs 1, 2 & 7 structural steel was both melted and vaporized. Neither is a possibility for the US Governments' Official Conspiracy Fable.

Quote:
I-A. The 2002 FEMA Report
New York Times journalist James Glanz, writing near the end of 2001 about the collapse of WTC 7, reported that some engineers said that a “combination of an uncontrolled fire and the structural damage might have been able to bring the building down,” but that this “would not explain,” according to Dr. Barnett, “steel members in the debris pile that appear to have been partly evaporated in extraordinarily high temperatures.” [13]
Glanz was referring to Jonathan Barnett, a professor of fire protection engineering at the Worcester Polytechnic Institute (WPI). Early in 2002, Barnett and two WPI colleagues published an analysis of a section of steel from one of the Twin Towers, along with sections from WTC 7, as an appendix to FEMA’s 2002 World Trade Center Building Performance Study. [14] Their discoveries were also reported in a WPI article entitled “The ‘Deep Mystery’ of Melted Steel,” which said:

“[S]teel – which has a melting point of 2,800 degrees Fahrenheit [1538°C] – may weaken and bend, but does not melt during an ordinary office fire. Yet metallurgical studies on WTC steel brought back to WPI reveal that a novel phenomenon – called a eutectic reaction – occurred at the surface, causing intergranular melting capable of turning a solid steel girder into Swiss cheese.”

Stating that the New York Times called these findings “perhaps the deepest mystery uncovered in the investigation,” the article added:

“A one-inch column has been reduced to half-inch thickness. Its edges – which are curled like a paper scroll – have been thinned to almost razor sharpness. Gaping holes – some larger than a silver dollar – let light shine through a formerly solid steel flange. This Swiss cheese appearance shocked all of the fire-wise professors, who expected to see distortion and bending – but not holes.” [15]

In discussing “the deepest mystery,” the New York Times story said: “The steel apparently melted away, but no fire in any of the buildings was believed to be hot enough to melt steel outright.” [16] That was an understatement, because a building fire, even with a perfect mixture of air and fuel, could at most reach 1,000°C (1,832°F). [17] In fact, Professor Thomas Eagar of MIT estimated that the fires were “probably only about 1,200 or 1,300°F [648 or 704°C].” [18]



Quote:
and there were no controlled demolitions.


“Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance.” - Albert Einstein

"Dr. Hulsey and his team at the University of Alaska concluded that

the collapse of WTC 7 was a global failure involving the near-simultaneous failure of all columns in the building and not a progressive collapse involving the sequential failure of columns throughout the building. Despite simulating a number of hypothetical scenarios, we were unable to identify any progressive sequence of failures that could have taken place on September 11th, 2001, and caused a total collapse of the building, let alone the observed straight-down collapse with approximately 2.5 seconds of free fall and minimal differential movement of the exterior."

unable2know
 
  1  
Tue 29 Sep, 2020 07:31 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
What does that have to do with Hiroshima and Nagasaki?


It points up two irrefutable facts; one, that the usa is pure evil and they go to great lengths to hide their evil all the while finger pointing at others even at the deeply evil people they are always inextricably tied up with.

Two, you know full well of this deep deep evil as do most all americans but they themselves try to hide the evil and others glory in it.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Tue 29 Sep, 2020 07:36 pm
@unable2know,
There is nothing even remotely evil about our use of the atomic bombs.

We were defending ourselves from Japanese aggression, and we dropped them on military targets.
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Tue 29 Sep, 2020 07:37 pm
@unable2know,
unable2know wrote:
On August 6, 1945, the U.S. dropped an atomic bomb on Hiroshima; three days later Nagasaki was hit. General Douglas MacArthur promptly declared southern Japan off-limits, barring the press. Over 200,000 people died in the atomic bombings of the cities, but no Western journalist witnessed the aftermath and told the story.

No more than 200,000 were killed.

It was self defense. We were protecting ourselves from Japanese aggression.


unable2know wrote:
Instead, the world's media obediently crowded onto the USS Missouri off the coast of Japan to cover the Japanese surrender.

And what an excellent surrender it was.

The atomic bombs were a wonderful triumph of the forces of good over the forces of evil.


unable2know wrote:
unable2know: And the usa did what it has always done, hide from the world its most ugly of brutalities, evil that is light years beyond what any country has ever done.
Americans are the ultimate unable2knowers.

We didn't hide. We proudly proclaimed our use of the atomic bombs to the entire world.


unable2know wrote:
Now why on earth would the usa, the bastion of freedom and openness, want to hide the glorious things they have done to the people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

No one is hiding. We destroyed two military targets and we are proud of our accomplishments.


unable2know wrote:
New Book: "Atomic Cover-Up: Two U.S. Soldiers, Hiroshima & Nagasaki"

"SIXTEEN HOURS AGO an American airplane dropped one bomb on Hiroshima, an important Japanese Army base."
https://www.trumanlibrary.gov/library/public-papers/93/statement-president-announcing-use-bomb-hiroshima

No cover up.
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Tue 29 Sep, 2020 07:39 pm
@unable2know,
unable2know wrote:
WTCs 1, 2 & 7 structural steel was both melted and vaporized.

No it wasn't.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Tue 29 Sep, 2020 07:46 pm
@unable2know,
unable2know wrote:
"Despite simulating a number of hypothetical scenarios, we were unable to identify any progressive sequence of failures that could have taken place on September 11th, 2001, and caused a total collapse of the building, let alone the observed straight-down collapse with approximately 2.5 seconds of free fall and minimal differential movement of the exterior."

Seriously, have those clowns never heard of gravity??

Why don't they leave the thinking to the actual scientists who have functioning brains and know what they're talking about?
unable2know
 
  1  
Tue 29 Sep, 2020 07:54 pm
@oralloy,
Your dissembling, your extraordinarily lame responses, your total lack of anything remotely resembling evidence or rational thought illustrates that you are one of the totally brainwashed americans.

Quote:
Seriously, have those clowns never heard of gravity??


Why do you go to such lengths to illustrate your appalling ignorance? Gravity CANNOT make a building that has stood for 14 years immediately go into free fall for 2.5 seconds, 105 feet, 8 storeys.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Tue 29 Sep, 2020 07:56 pm
@unable2know,
Well duh. The structure failed.

Gravity pulled it down AFTER the structure failed.
McGentrix
 
  0  
Tue 29 Sep, 2020 08:10 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

coldjoint wrote:
I do not think, I know.
Yes, thinking is not easy. It requires effort. And brain.


Really Walter? I thought your German heritage kept you above such silly insults?
unable2know
 
  1  
Tue 29 Sep, 2020 08:12 pm
@oralloy,
Me: WTCs 1, 2 & 7 structural steel was both melted and vaporized.

Quote:
oralloy: No it wasn't.


The NYTs says you are a bald faced liar. FEMA also says that you are a bald faced liar.

The RJLee Group, a top usa forensic engineering firm also proves that you are a bald faced liar or at the least a stunningly ignorant person.

Quote:
The RJ Lee Report

In May 2004, the RJ Lee Group issued a report, entitled “WTC Dust Signature,” at the request of the Deutsche Bank, in order to prove (to its insurance company) that the building was “pervasively contaminated with WTC Dust, unique to the WTC Event.” [19] The report listed five elements in this signature, one of which was: “Spherical iron and spherical or vesicular silicate particles that result from exposure to high temperature.” [20] This was the only statement about iron’s being modified by high temperature in this 2004 report.
However, RJ Lee had written an earlier report in 2003, entitled “WTC Dust Signature Report,” which contained much more about iron. It said: “Particles of materials that had been modified by exposure to high temperature, such as spherical particles of iron and silicates, are common in WTC Dust … but are not common in ‘normal’ interior office dust.” [21] This 2003 version of the report even pointed out that, whereas iron particles constitute only 0.04 percent of normal building dust, they constituted an enormous amount of the WTC dust: 5.87 percent (meaning that there was almost 150 times more iron in the dust than normal). [22] This earlier version also explicitly stated that iron and other metals were “melted during the WTC Event, producing spherical metallic particles.” [23]

In addition, whereas the 2004 report did not use the word “vaporize,” this earlier version spoke of temperatures “at which lead would have undergone vaporization.” [24] Accordingly, whereas the 2004 report referred to “high temperatures,” the earlier report indicated that the temperatures were not merely high but extremely high, because for lead to boil and hence vaporize, it must be heated to 1,749°C (3,180°F). [25]


The following link to the FEMA WTC7 molten and vaporized specimen also describes you as the same bald faced liar or stunningly ignorant person.

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.911research.wtc7.net%2Fwtc%2Fevidence%2Fmetallurgy%2Fimages%2FWTC_apndxC_img_1.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.911research.wtc7.net%2Fwtc%2Fevidence%2Fmetallurgy%2FWTC_apndxC.htm&tbnid=SSZkBscLVBG_OM&vet=12ahUKEwjS5ePW5Y_sAhUNgqwKHehIBkUQMygCegUIARCTAQ..i&docid=zm2PfEezLiMpgM&w=918&h=741&q=FEMA%20appendix%20c&ved=2ahUKEwjS5ePW5Y_sAhUNgqwKHehIBkUQMygCegUIARCTAQ
unable2know
 
  1  
Tue 29 Sep, 2020 08:17 pm
@McGentrix,
Quote:
Really Walter? I thought your German heritage kept you above such silly insults?


Walter must be familiar with Americans, McGentrix. Here you have oralloy bald faced denying reality not once but numerous times.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Tue 29 Sep, 2020 08:19 pm
@unable2know,
You cannot provide any examples of an untrue statement in any of my posts.
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unable2know
 
  1  
Tue 29 Sep, 2020 08:20 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
Well duh. The structure failed.

Gravity pulled it down AFTER the structure failed.


One would think that one so ignorant of the facts and the evidence, and evidently reality itself, would be more apt to flee like all the other brainwashed americans do.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Tue 29 Sep, 2020 08:22 pm
@unable2know,
You may not have heard of gravity, but I assure you that it exists.

Laughing Laughing Laughing
oralloy
 
  -2  
Tue 29 Sep, 2020 08:23 pm
@unable2know,
unable2know wrote:
The NYTs says you are a bald faced liar. FEMA also says that you are a bald faced liar.

No they don't.


unable2know wrote:
The RJLee Group, a top usa forensic engineering firm also proves that you are a bald faced liar or at the least a stunningly ignorant person.

Not really.
 

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