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oralloy
 
  -1  
Thu 24 Sep, 2020 02:17 pm
@coluber2001,
Progressives really can't handle the idea of anyone disagreeing with them.
hightor
 
  1  
Thu 24 Sep, 2020 02:31 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
Progressives really can't handle the idea of anyone disagreeing with them.

Steve Schmidt is not a "progressive". He's the one who got Sarah Palin on McCain's ticket, ffs.

You may not have noticed but conservatives of sufficiently rigid ideology react similarly. It's not restricted to one side or the other. Nor is it restricted to politics. "I'm right, you're wrong" is pretty basic human social behavior.

InfraBlue
 
  1  
Thu 24 Sep, 2020 03:01 pm
@coluber2001,
Yeah, but he's an anti-immigrant go-getter, bends over backwards for Israel, and is undermining NATO and the UN, among other things. He's heroic, God's imperfect vessel.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Thu 24 Sep, 2020 03:21 pm
@InfraBlue,
Israel are our friends and are fellow good guys. It is proper that we help them out.

The Palestinian state when it is eventually created can be composed of the Gaza Strip alone.
Sturgis
 
  1  
Thu 24 Sep, 2020 03:26 pm
@farmerman,
And often made of wood.
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Thu 24 Sep, 2020 03:38 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
Steve Schmidt is not a "progressive". He's the one who got Sarah Palin on McCain's ticket, ffs.

As far as I'm concerned RINOs are progressives.


hightor wrote:
You may not have noticed but conservatives of sufficiently rigid ideology react similarly. It's not restricted to one side or the other. Nor is it restricted to politics. "I'm right, you're wrong" is pretty basic human social behavior.

I was recently told off by someone on the far right (not on a2k) for being an enemy of the Second Amendment. I found that a bit amusing.

My position is that the government should start forming militias again and sell machine guns and bazookas to militiamen. Meanwhile the rest of the people should be free to buy weapons that are appropriate for self defense, as well as weapons that there is no actual reason for restricting.

This other guy wants machine guns and bazookas to be sold at Walmart to anyone without an age or background check.


An interesting subject that came up briefly in that same thread, though not long enough for the subject to be explored in depth, is what rights should police officers have under the Second Amendment. The modern concept of police did not exist when the Bill of Rights was drafted, so the Second Amendment didn't account for them.

If any far-leftists try to disarm their local police, I'd be in favor of the police being given the same right to "self defense/no reason for restrictions" weapons that all non-militiamen have, and the right to carry those weapons while on duty.
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coluber2001
 
  3  
Thu 24 Sep, 2020 04:14 pm
After almost four years of a Trump presidency, a group of analysts is warning that the U.S. is headed towards autocracy. Varieties of Democracy, a database focused on ‘conceptualizing and measuring democracy,’ has found that the U.S. is moving towards ‘substantial autocratization’ under Trump’s leadership due to loss of democratic traits. Data from the group, dating back to the 1950s, shows that only 1 in 5 democracies that start down this path are able to fully reverse this trajectory. Varieties of Democracy gathers this data annually by asking analysts and experts to rate their respective nations on different democratic variables such as free elections, a system of checks and balances, levels of executive corruptions, and freedom of personal expression. The group has reported that across all facets of democracy, the U.S. is on a downward slope. Political scientist Staffan I. Lindberg, one of the founders of Varieties of Democracy, has said that though ‘the United States is not unique’ in this decline, he believes that ‘if Trump wins this election in November, democracy is gone.'
BillW
 
  2  
Thu 24 Sep, 2020 04:33 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

excellent point. Its just thhat we should prepare the US ARMY to uphold the US Constitution because it appears that this guy wont be relinquishing his seat as he loses. He is bound an determined to steal the election like the fascist pig he is.



Trump needs to have more force behind him before he can overthrow the government. He doesn't have the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, or FBI on his side unless he honestly wins the election. He does not even have the Secret Services on his side. Even his on protection force, except maybe just to assure he doesn't get killed as they escorts him from the White house to jail. In the end, it might just be he lives in the White House until the food runs out because once out of it he will be arrested. The only armed force he has behind him; some ICE forces and his civilian militias. A well fortified battalion can defeat those groups even if they could become organized. But, where would the battle occur?

And, if he honestly wins the election - God help us!
InfraBlue
 
  4  
Thu 24 Sep, 2020 04:47 pm
@oralloy,
Israel is an apartheid regime whose existence is predicated on the perpetual oppression of the Palestinians. The regime is far from being a good guy.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Thu 24 Sep, 2020 04:49 pm
@InfraBlue,
Your antisemitism is despicable. Shame on you.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Thu 24 Sep, 2020 04:53 pm
@BillW,
BillW wrote:
In the end, it might just be he lives in the White House until the food runs out because once out of it he will be arrested.

No one is going to arrest the President when he leaves office.

We really need to outlaw the Democratic Party so we can put a stop to their abuse of the law to persecute those who disagree with them.
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InfraBlue
 
  5  
Thu 24 Sep, 2020 04:53 pm
@oralloy,
I have no antisemitism. There is no shame to impute.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Thu 24 Sep, 2020 04:54 pm
@InfraBlue,
Your false accusations of imaginary atrocities are antisemitic in the extreme.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Thu 24 Sep, 2020 04:56 pm
@coluber2001,
coluber2001 wrote:
Political scientist Staffan I. Lindberg, one of the founders of Varieties of Democracy, has said that though 'the United States is not unique' in this decline, he believes that 'if Trump wins this election in November, democracy is gone.'

Progressives are pretty goofy.
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BillW
 
  3  
Thu 24 Sep, 2020 05:42 pm
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:

Israel is an apartheid regime whose existence is predicated on the perpetual oppression of the Palestinians. The regime is far from being a good guy.

What is so puzzling to me is they are both descended from Abraham and Judaism, Islam and Christianity are all Abrahamic religions - all study the same Old Testament. What a shame all is wasted!

"Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are called Abrahamic religions because they all accept the tradition of the God (known as Yahweh in Hebrew and Allah in Arabic) that revealed himself to Abraham." -Wikipedia

Jews and Palestinians are both Semites......
farmerman
 
  3  
Thu 24 Sep, 2020 05:47 pm
@coluber2001,
as franklin said "Gentlemen, you have a democracy, if you can keep it"
oralloy
 
  0  
Thu 24 Sep, 2020 06:05 pm
@BillW,
The problem is Muslims insist of stealing everyone else's land and holy sites for themselves.
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coldjoint
 
  0  
Thu 24 Sep, 2020 06:38 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

Quote:
Progressives really can't handle the idea of anyone disagreeing with them.

Steve Schmidt is not a "progressive". He's the one who got Sarah Palin on McCain's ticket, ffs.

You may not have noticed but conservatives of sufficiently rigid ideology react similarly. It's not restricted to one side or the other. Nor is it restricted to politics. "I'm right, you're wrong" is pretty basic human social behavior.



He is a hanger on and formally a McCain suck puppy. Cashing in on hate and saying absolutely nothing new. He is telling us what the world thinks. No one cares what the world thinks and that is a narrative and nothing more.
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coldjoint
 
  0  
Thu 24 Sep, 2020 06:42 pm
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:

Yeah, but he's an anti-immigrant go-getter, bends over backwards for Israel, and is undermining NATO and the UN, among other things. He's heroic, God's imperfect vessel.

Anti illegal immigration. He has not undermined NATO, Turkey has. Trump got more money for NATO. As far as the UN, who cares, Trump doesn't.
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coldjoint
 
  1  
Thu 24 Sep, 2020 06:44 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

as franklin said "Gentlemen, you have a democracy, if you can keep it"

He said "republic". I believe Hightor would call that an epic fail.
 

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