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oralloy
 
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Sat 27 Jun, 2020 12:24 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
NATO isn't there to protect the EU.

That's news to me.
Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Sat 27 Jun, 2020 12:31 pm
@oralloy,
I suppose, the non-Nato EU-member countries wouldn't really oppose being protected by NATO. But that would be - at least - not according to any treaty or agreement.

You can find national participation in the principal European and trans-Atlantic defence arrangements <here< (Wikipedia: Permanent Structured Cooperation (PESCO), you have to scoll down a bit)
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coldjoint
 
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Sat 27 Jun, 2020 01:38 pm
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McGentrix
 
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Sat 27 Jun, 2020 03:04 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Why is NATO there? Crisis management? You mean like a storm or earthquake? Maybe a mudslide or two? What kind of crisis does NATO manage?
Olivier5
 
  2  
Sat 27 Jun, 2020 03:15 pm
@McGentrix,
NATO is currently brain-dead, thanks largely to Trump who takes his orders from Moscow. Whether Biden can resucitate it remains to be seen.
McGentrix
 
  0  
Sat 27 Jun, 2020 04:03 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

NATO is currently brain-dead, thanks largely to Trump who takes his orders from Moscow. Whether Biden can resucitate it remains to be seen.


Oh! What a brilliant observation! So your belief is that all of the European members of NATO are really just a bunch of limp dicks following the US because Trump, the US President, takes his orders from Russia?

Is that right? Does that sum up your understanding of what NATO is about?
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Sat 27 Jun, 2020 05:16 pm
Quote:
Trump Not Briefed On Russia Bounty Intelligence: White House

Quote:
This does not speak to the merit of the alleged intelligence but to the inaccuracy of The New York Times story erroneously suggesting that President Trump was briefed on this matter," Press secretary Kayleigh McEnany said.

Translated the NYT is lying again.
Quote:
Russia has also denounced the report, with its embassy in Washington tweeting that the "baseless and anonymous accusations" in the Times story had "already led to direct threats to the life of employees" at its embassies in Washington and London.

"Stop producing #fakenews that provoke life threats, @nytimes," it added in a later tweet.

Think Twitter will ban the NYT for inciting violence?
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/us-president-donald-trump-not-briefed-on-russia-bounty-intelligence-white-house-2253401
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Sat 27 Jun, 2020 05:22 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
over your hate-inspired statues of traitors.

They are not mine they are ours if you are an American. Never been to sure about that. But no matter, it is the history of this great country and should be learned from not destroyed.
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sat 27 Jun, 2020 05:28 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
"That's about some ignorant **** right there."

It is also a fact.
Quote:
Motivations for Slavery

One thing that many Westerners wonder about African slavers is why they were willing to sell their own people. Why would they sell Africans to Europeans? The simple answer to this question is that they did not see slaves as "their own people." Blackness (as an identity or marker of difference) was at that time a preoccupation of Europeans, not Africans. There was also in this era no collective sense of being "African." In other words, African slave traders felt no obligation to protect African slaves because they did not regard them as their equals.

Start reading.
https://www.thoughtco.com/african-slave-traders-44538
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lmur
 
  5  
Sat 27 Jun, 2020 06:10 pm
Over 15,000 cases in Florida and California in the past 24 hours. These horrific figures must cease. End testing now!
coluber2001
 
  2  
Sat 27 Jun, 2020 07:52 pm
@lmur,
LOL
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Builder
 
  -2  
Sat 27 Jun, 2020 08:14 pm
Why did the chicken cross the road?

Donald Trump: “I’ve been told by many sources, good sources - they're very good sources – that the chicken crossed the road.

All the Fake News wants to do is write nasty things about the road, but it's a really good road. It's a beautiful road. Everyone knows how beautiful it is.”
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sat 27 Jun, 2020 08:18 pm
Quote:
Journalist Says Don’t Sweat the New Polls, ‘Democrats have gone stark raving baying-at-the-moon bats**t crazy’

Quote:
These Dem govs & mayors literally locked down their citizens for months, sent cops to arrest people running on the beach, shut down the churches, etc.

And then they turned around and ENDORSED MASS PROTESTS AND RIOTING.

There will be **consequences** for this.

Contrary to what one may believe, he says that “THE DEMOCRATIC BASE IS NOT GROWING. It’s been SHRINKING for 5 years now. And the shrinking has SPED up over the past 2 years.”

Hmm. Can anyone prove differently? Is the base shrinking? I hope so.
https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaughn/2020/06/27/862817/
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coldjoint
 
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Sat 27 Jun, 2020 09:08 pm
Quote:
Antifa calls police to save them from islamists

This site does satire but this story is true. It happened in Vienna.
Quote:
In the category "Irony Awards" and "Life Surpasses the Kube" I am proud to bring you this story.

Last week, the courageous fellow revolutionaries of Antifa, ever fighting for mass immigration and the abolishment of the police, had a painful meeting with good old mister Reality.

Some Kurdish flags where flown during an Antifa rally in Vienna (Austria), which angered the local Turkish nationalists. A fight ensued and the cowards courageous revolutionaries fled advanced to the rear and towards their headquarters to ... call the police for help.



Let this sink in:

Antifa called the police to save them from islamic thugs



Meanwhile, there where gangs of "Allah Akbar" shouting Turks banging on their door, while they courageously cowered inside.

Comrades, how can we spin this story to turn it into a win for the glorious progressive cause?

https://www.thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/antifa-calls-police-to-save-them-from-islamists-t21690.html
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Sat 27 Jun, 2020 10:53 pm
@McGentrix,
McGentrix wrote:
Why is NATO there? Crisis management? You mean like a storm or earthquake? Maybe a mudslide or two? What kind of crisis does NATO manage?
Quote:
The North Atlantic Alliance was founded in the aftermath of the Second World War. Its purpose was to secure peace in Europe, to promote cooperation among its members and to guard their freedom – all of this in the context of countering the threat posed at the time by the Soviet Union. The Alliance’s founding treaty was signed in Washington in 1949 by a dozen European and North American countries. It commits the Allies to democracy, individual liberty and the rule of law, as well as to peaceful resolution of disputes. Importantly, the treaty sets out the idea of collective defence, meaning that an attack against one Ally is considered as an attack against all Allies. The North Atlantic Treaty Organization – or NATO – ensures that the security of its European member countries is inseparably linked to that of its North American member countries. The Organization also provides a unique forum for dialogue and cooperation across the Atlantic.
NATO

We (Germany) are a NATO member.



Nato actually does a nit of what you wrote above:
Quote:
The EADRCC has coordinated assistance in flood-devastated countries including Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, the Czech Republic, Hungary, Romania and Ukraine. It supported the UN High Commissioner for Refugees in Kosovo; helped coordinate aid, which was sent to earthquake-stricken Turkey and Pakistan; helped to fight fires in North Macedonia and in Portugal; and supported Ukraine and Moldova after extreme weather conditions had destroyed power transmission capabilities. The EADRCC also conducts consequence management field exercises on an annual basis, bringing together civil and military first response teams to practise interoperability.

Nato crisis management

But actually a lot more than that, if read that NATO-topic
McGentrix
 
  -1  
Sat 27 Jun, 2020 11:31 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
From the same website

Quote:
Security in our daily lives is key to our well-being. NATO’s purpose is to guarantee the freedom and security of its members through political and military means.

POLITICAL - NATO promotes democratic values and enables members to consult and cooperate on defence and security-related issues to solve problems, build trust and, in the long run, prevent conflict.

MILITARY - NATO is committed to the peaceful resolution of disputes. If diplomatic efforts fail, it has the military power to undertake crisis-management operations. These are carried out under the collective defence clause of NATO's founding treaty - Article 5 of the Washington Treaty or under a United Nations mandate, alone or in cooperation with other countries and international organisations.


Quote:
Highlights
Crisis management is one of NATO’s core tasks for which it employs an appropriate mix of political and military tools to manage crises in an increasingly complex security environment.
NATO’s robust crisis management capabilities allow it to deal with a wide range of crises which could pose a threat to the security of the Alliance’s territory and populations. These crises can be political, military or humanitarian and can also arise from a natural disaster or as a consequence of technological disruptions.
NATO provides the framework within which members can work and train together in order to plan and conduct multinational crisis management operations, often at short notice.
It can also train and operate with other actors where appropriate, for combined crisis management operations and missions.
Allies decide whether to engage in a crisis management operation on a case-by-case basis and by consensus.
NATO recognises that the military alone cannot resolve a crisis or conflict, and lessons learned from previous operations make it clear that a comprehensive political, civilian and military approach is necessary for effective crisis management.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Sat 27 Jun, 2020 11:41 pm
@McGentrix,
That's why I wrote:
But actually a lot more than that, if you read that NATO-topic


But
NATO wrote:
guarantee the freedom and security of its members

doesn't really mean "EU member countries", or does it?
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goldberg
 
  0  
Sat 27 Jun, 2020 11:47 pm
@izzythepush,
Oh, I see. Thanks for the tip.
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