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oralloy
 
  -4  
Wed 24 Jun, 2020 09:02 am
@bobsal u1553115,
I could do without your illegal votedown abuse.
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oralloy
 
  -4  
Wed 24 Jun, 2020 09:03 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
The two statements aren't contradictory

Sure they are. Someone who has 100% of the power has absolute power.
oralloy
 
  -4  
Wed 24 Jun, 2020 09:04 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:
Keep readjusting your argument.

I have not changed my argument in any way.


bobsal u1553115 wrote:
At least you dropped the "absolute power" crap.

Progressives don't like facts. But facts are not crap.

I have not stopped stating facts.
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oralloy
 
  -4  
Wed 24 Jun, 2020 09:05 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:
Which is not the same as your "absolute power" crap.

Progressives don't like facts. But facts are not crap.

And yes, it is in fact the same thing.


bobsal u1553115 wrote:
Repeating back to me what I told you is a cute way of trying to win an argument.

I am not repeating anything that you said.

Everything that you said is untrue, and I prefer not to state falsehoods.
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oralloy
 
  -4  
Wed 24 Jun, 2020 09:07 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:
None of which reflects your "absolute power" crap.

Progressives don't like facts. But facts are not crap.

And yes, all of what I wrote does reflect that the President has absolute power within the executive branch.


bobsal u1553115 wrote:
I'm glad you realize how wrong you were asserting it.

I am not wrong in any way to tell the truth.


bobsal u1553115 wrote:
The President has oversight: Congress and the Supreme Court. And also the voters.

Correct.


bobsal u1553115 wrote:
His power is not absolute. Right?

Within the executive branch it is.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  3  
Wed 24 Jun, 2020 09:14 am
"Donald Trump has been the worst president this country has ever had. And I don't say that hyperbolically. He is. But he is a consequential president. And he has brought this country in three short years to a place of weakness that is simply unimaginable if you were pondering where we are today from the day where Barack Obama left office. And there were a lot of us on that day who were deeply skeptical and very worried about what a Trump presidency would be. But this is a moment of unparalleled national humiliation, of weakness.

"When you listen to the President, these are the musings of an imbecile. An idiot. And I don't use those words to name call. I use them because they are the precise words of the English language to describe his behavior. His comportment. His actions. We've never seen a level of incompetence, a level of ineptitude so staggering on a daily basis by anybody in the history of the country whose ever been charged with substantial responsibilities.

"It's just astonishing that this man is president of the United States. The man, the con man, from New York City. Many bankruptcies, failed businesses, a reality show, that branded him as something that he never was. A successful businessman. Well, he's the President of the United States now, and the man who said he would make the country great again. And he's brought death, suffering, and economic collapse on truly an epic scale. And let's be clear. This isn't happening in every country around the world. This place. Our place. Our home. Our country. The United States. We are the epicenter. We are the place where you're the most likely to die from this disease. We're the ones with the most shattered economy. And we are because of the fool that sits in the Oval Office behind the Resolute Desk."


https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/23/politics/steve-schmidt-donald-trump/index.html


The President is an "absolute" idiot.
Frank Apisa
 
  3  
Wed 24 Jun, 2020 09:31 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

"Donald Trump has been the worst president this country has ever had. And I don't say that hyperbolically. He is. But he is a consequential president. And he has brought this country in three short years to a place of weakness that is simply unimaginable if you were pondering where we are today from the day where Barack Obama left office. And there were a lot of us on that day who were deeply skeptical and very worried about what a Trump presidency would be. But this is a moment of unparalleled national humiliation, of weakness.


"When you listen to the President, these are the musings of an imbecile. An idiot. And I don't use those words to name call. I use them because they are the precise words of the English language to describe his behavior. His comportment. His actions. We've never seen a level of incompetence, a level of ineptitude so staggering on a daily basis by anybody in the history of the country whose ever been charged with substantial responsibilities.

"It's just astonishing that this man is president of the United States. The man, the con man, from New York City. Many bankruptcies, failed businesses, a reality show, that branded him as something that he never was. A successful businessman. Well, he's the President of the United States now, and the man who said he would make the country great again. And he's brought death, suffering, and economic collapse on truly an epic scale. And let's be clear. This isn't happening in every country around the world. This place. Our place. Our home. Our country. The United States. We are the epicenter. We are the place where you're the most likely to die from this disease. We're the ones with the most shattered economy. And we are because of the fool that sits in the Oval Office behind the Resolute Desk."


https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/23/politics/steve-schmidt-donald-trump/index.html


The President is an "absolute" idiot.


I agree...although in doing so, I feel I am insulting lots of people who are idiots.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Wed 24 Jun, 2020 09:32 am
Absolute power within the executive branch:

All Charges Dropped Against Michael Flynn
https://apnews.com/5b267c653a3adaa0c9235059385e35e3
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hightor
 
  2  
Wed 24 Jun, 2020 09:32 am
@oralloy,
Look at the sentence:

Quote:
Note it does not say "Absolute power of the Executive Branch is vested in the President of the United States".


Do you see the quotation marks? You cannot find the quoted words in the US Constitution. bobsal doesn't contradict anything you've said, he merely states a literal fact.

Understand?

oralloy
 
  -2  
Wed 24 Jun, 2020 09:38 am
@hightor,
He did not state a fact.

100% power is absolute power.
RABEL222
 
  2  
Wed 24 Jun, 2020 09:52 am
@oralloy,
You are a true Trumpian worshiper.
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hightor
 
  2  
Wed 24 Jun, 2020 09:55 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
He did not state a fact.


Do you see the quotation marks? You cannot find the quoted words in the US Constitution. bobsal doesn't contradict anything you've said, he merely states a literal fact.

Understand?
bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Wed 24 Jun, 2020 09:58 am
@Frank Apisa,
I know. There are actually idiots with good hearts and good intentions, just badly wired brains. Trump has no heart and not a good intention in the stack. He does have the badly wired brain.
oralloy
 
  -3  
Wed 24 Jun, 2020 09:58 am
@hightor,
I understand what you are saying.

But you are wrong. And Bobsal is wrong too.
bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Wed 24 Jun, 2020 10:08 am
9 Departments and Multiple Infractions for One New Jersey Police Officer

https://www.nytimes.com/

With no licenses that can be revoked and no database tracking their misconduct, officers in New Jersey are able to jump from agency to agency, even after they are fired.

By Rukmini Callimachi

June 24, 2020
Updated 4:37 a.m. ET

WOODLYNNE, N.J. — He left one department after failing to meet its standards. At another, he racked up disciplinary infractions. He was fired from a third, yet succeeded in getting hired at another.

By the time the officer, Ryan Dubiel, 31, began patrolling the streets of this small town last year, he was at his ninth police department, and had a history of troubling social media posts and a pattern of arrests that resulted in the injury of the suspect. He succeeded in getting hired in part because New Jersey remains one of only five states that cannot revoke a police officer’s accreditation over misconduct. It also has no central database tracking police malfeasance and, until recently, had stringent rules preventing the disclosure of disciplinary records between agencies.

This month, the white officer was charged with assault for pepper-spraying a group of black youths after a complaint that they were loitering, but only after cellphone footage captured by one of them was uploaded to YouTube. A look back over the young officer’s career; a review of police records; and interviews with more than a dozen law enforcement officials, witnesses and community leaders indicate that he had a history of interactions that policing experts say should have raised red flags.

New Jersey’s attorney general, Gurbir S. Grewal, said Officer Dubiel’s path was a sign of a broken system and “a strong example of why we need a statewide licensing program for police officers.” Unlike 45 other states, New Jersey does not grant police officers a license that can be revoked for misconduct.

“Just as we license doctors, nurses and lawyers,” Mr. Grewal said, “we must ensure that all officers meet baseline standards of professionalism, and that officers who fail to meet those standards cannot be passed from one police department to another.”

In jumping from job to job, Officer Dubiel benefited from rules pushed by powerful police unions that until recently made it difficult to flag worrisome behavior to future employers. By the time his record might have otherwise raised concerns, he was applying to jobs at small, resource-poor departments that had difficulty retaining officers.

And the incidents for which he is now under investigation by prosecutors — including shooting a fleeing armed robbery suspect and an allegation that he punched a mentally ill woman who resisted arrest — never resulted in a death or drew national attention, like the killings of George Floyd and others that inspired protests.

Still, public records show that on 16 occasions over nearly a decade, arrests that Officer Dubiel initiated resulted in injury to people he was trying to subdue. Almost all of them were unarmed. The suspects often had criminal histories and limited resources — and, until the pepper-spray incident, the officer’s interactions were not caught on camera by witnesses and did not result in criminal charges against him. Officer Dubiel did not respond to repeated efforts to reach him by phone, text and email.

As the nation grapples with how to reform police forces, one problem is the lack of a mechanism for tracking officers who have been fired from or disciplined in one department and find work in another. “No one really knows how many wandering officers are on the streets nationwide,” said John Rappaport, the author of a Yale Law Journal study on the problem. Without the ability to decertify officers, he said, states like New Jersey rely “entirely on local agencies to make good hiring decisions.”
An Open Investigation

One morning last December, Kelly Jankowski, 58, was awakened early by piercing screams. She rushed outside her home in Woodlynne to find that a police officer had handcuffed a black woman on the ground.

The woman was screaming so loudly, Ms. Jankowski recalled, “that I thought she was being killed.”

What she said she saw next prompted her to file a police report and a complaint with the county prosecutor. In an interview, Ms. Jankowski said the woman was lying on the pavement, her hands bound, and the officer punched her in the chest.

“I went to both the police and the prosecutor because I didn’t want it to be swept under the rug,” Ms. Jankowski said. “I never heard anything again.”

With details she provided, The New York Times obtained from the Woodlynne Police Department the corresponding “use of force” report, which officers must file when physical force is used to restrain or arrest a suspect.

According to the report, Officer Dubiel and a partner approached a woman who had thrown trash in the street that had blown out a passing driver’s tire. At 4:15 a.m., the report notes, a 34-year-old black woman displaying mental health problems resisted arrest. For the type of force used, the form checks off: “Compliance hold,” “Hands/fists,” “Chemical/natural agent” and “Strike/use of baton or other object.” It identifies Officer Dubiel as making the arrest.

In each of the three encounters for which Officer Dubiel is under investigation, he was working with a partner. But only his conduct has been called into question.

His body camera footage, which was released to The Times last week after an open-records request, shows how the woman rambled about how her iPad was stolen, how social services had taken her children away and how she suffered from schizophrenia. More than once, she said she wanted to kill herself.

After radioing their headquarters and learning that arrest warrants were out for her, the officers decided to bring her in. A protracted struggle ensued when she resisted, and both the woman and Officer Dubiel were injured, according to the use-of-force report. The woman, whose name is being withheld at the request of her family, said that the police took her to the hospital after the arrest. She said she did not file a complaint against the officer because she did not think she would be believed.

“She wants to kill herself. All right, you ready? Straight, uphill.” [unclear] “Let’s go.” “I’m black, and I’m retarded, and I’m schizophrenic. I don’t know how to stand up.” “You were just standing.” “Ma’am, come on. We’re not going to play this. It’s 3 o’clock in the morning.” “If you want, we can cancel, you guys, because she’s got warrants anyway. So we can just take her if that’s easier.” “All right, that’s good.” “That works.” “OK, all right, stand up.” “What do I have warrants for?” “Stand up. Stand up.” “You want it run all the way around?” “Yeah, run it all the way around. Stand up.” “What do I have warrants for? I don’t have any warrants?” “Take your backpack off. Take your backpack off.” “No.” “Take your backpack off.” “I didn’t do nothing.” “Take your backpack off. Don’t do this. Don’t do this. Don’t make this harder than it needs to be.” “I didn’t do nothing.” “Put your hands behind you. Put your hands behind your back.” “No. [screaming] “Stop pulling.” “Oh my gosh!” “Get on the ground now!” “Why are you hurting me? [screaming] Why are you beating me?” [screaming] “Stop, stop, stop.” [screaming] “Get on the ground!” “Stop, stop, stop.” [screaming] “Stop. Put your hands behind your back.” “Put your hands behind your back! Put your hands behind your back now!” “Stop. Stop.” [screaming] “Stop. Stop.” [unclear] “Put your hands behind your back.” “I didn’t —” “You’re going to go to crisis now.” “But I didn’t do anything.” “I don’t have any warrants.” “I don’t have any warrants.” “I don’t have any warrants.” “I’m going to get my cuffs.” “Stop.” “Why you taking me?” “Here, here, here.” “[screaming] Help me!” [screaming] Help me! [screaming] “We’re running.” “Help! Help! Help!” “Stop! Stop!” “Help me! Help! Help! Help me!” “Bring the car around.” “Help! Help me!” “Get down.” [screaming] [banging] [screaming] “Get down!” “Help! Help!” “Stop!” “Help! Help! Help! Help!” “Get down! Get down!” “Help me!” “Get down!” “Help me!” “Get down!” “I want —” “Get on the ground.” “I want to die! I don’t deserve this. I don’t deserve — please! Please! Please! I want to die! Please! I don’t deserve this! I don’t deserve this!”


It was one of two encounters that day, Dec. 29, in which Officer Dubiel’s use of force has come under scrutiny. In both cases, as well as the pepper-spray incident, he was with other officers, but only his actions are being investigated.

At 10:57 that night, officers pursued a man suspected of committing armed robbery at a gas station. Officer Dubiel chased the man, believed to have a gun, by car and then on foot. When the suspect did not stop as ordered, Officer Dubiel shot his backside, injuring him. It later turned out the man had been carrying a pistol that shoots plastic pellets.

New Jersey allows the police to use deadly force to prevent the escape of a fleeing suspect if an officer believes the person poses an “imminent danger of death or serious bodily harm.” When force is justified, the rules urge the “utmost restraint.”


“Stop. [sirens] [gunshot] Shots fired. Shots fired.” [moaning] “Where’s the weapon? Where’s the weapon?” “There is no weapon.” “Shots fired. Shots fired. We need a medic. You got to get back.”

After chasing a suspect in an armed robbery and telling him to stop, Officer Dubiel opened fire.

The footage was reviewed internally by the Woodlynne Police Department, an agency of just eight officers who serve a small community and are paid among the lowest median salaries in the county. The department has struggled with high turnover, according to Woodlynne’s public safety director, Edwin J. Figueroa.

After reviewing the two cases from December, Mr. Figueroa said, he referred them to the Camden County prosecutor’s office. Officer Dubiel was assigned to desk duty.

But in April, with two officers out sick with the coronavirus, Mr. Figueroa said, he had no choice but to send Officer Dubiel back onto the streets. Mr. Figueroa said he first offered him counseling, which he refused. Mr. Figueroa also asked him to reread the New Jersey attorney general’s use-of-force policy and sign his name indicating that he understood it.

A month later, the protests over the killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis swept across the nation. In Camden, the police marched shoulder to shoulder with demonstrators in a show of solidarity. Officers there then flagged Officer Dubiel’s social media posts to Woodlynne Police.

An account using the alias “Duby Copperhead,” which former colleagues knew to be Officer Dubiel’s, posted a picture of the Camden march, showing one officer surrounded by black protesters, pumping their fists in the air. “Anybody that stands behind these people is a traitor,” he wrote, according to images of his now-suspended Facebook account that his former colleagues shared with The Times. “I am so ashamed to have ever worked for such a disgrace of a police department.”
Race and Policing ›

Just 24 at the time, he had an associate degree in criminal justice from Ocean County College and had already cycled through police departments in Seaside Heights, Galloway, Edgewater Park, and Union City. Some of the jobs were part time, but a pattern was emerging: He jumped from place to place. He left one department as storm clouds gathered.

“He just wasn’t meeting our standards — we didn’t feel comfortable with him being out there by himself,” said Edgewater Park’s police chief, Robert D. Hess, adding that Officer Dubiel quit before finishing his training in 2012.

In Camden, he initially did well. Reports from his instructors during training, obtained through an open-records request, repeatedly described his attitude as “positive” and his demeanor toward citizens as “professional.”

He was named “Officer of the Week” after intervening in a dispute in 2015 and disarming the parties. And he was featured in a museum exhibition after receiving an Award of Valor.

But he also began racking up use-of-force reports in a department that was trying to reset its relationship with the community. In a two-year period, records show, Officer Dubiel used force against 16 suspects — a higher-than-average tally, a former colleague said.

Using force can mean something as minor as guiding a suspect’s arms to apply handcuffs, and is not necessarily a black mark, especially if the suspect is armed or dangerous and the amount of force is proportionate to the circumstances, Mr. Keashen explained.

But the reports documenting Officer Dubiel’s use of force raised concerns: At least 13 of the 16 people were unarmed, and more than 80 percent were injured during their arrests.

In one evaluation that summer, Officer Dubiel’s supervisor recommended he get more “de-escalation awareness for his use-of-force incidents.”

Citing confidentiality, the Camden police declined to disclose the officer’s disciplinary file. But one colleague who had access to it, and requested anonymity because of concerns about lawsuits, said the patrolman had a history of disciplinary infractions.

“Dubiel washed out of the system in Camden because of our police reforms, which imposed a more stringent code of conduct and a higher level of oversight,” said Lou Cappelli Jr., the elected executive overseeing the Camden Police.
Department to Department

Officer Dubiel moved on to Little Falls, 100 miles north. When he applied there in 2015, according to Steven Post, the police chief, nothing in the materials sent from Camden indicated a disciplinary problem.

Because of strict confidentiality rules in New Jersey governing internal affairs investigations into police officers, sharing a disciplinary file from department to department was rare and only by special request. It wasn’t until last December that the state attorney general amended the policy, making it easier to share such records.

Four months after he arrived, Officer Dubiel resigned and moved to Far Hills, which paid more, according to the Little Falls police chief, Steven Post.

Officials there declined to release his record, but confirmed that he was fired within three months. An internal affairs investigation accused him of unauthorized absence and an integrity violation, and cited concerns over his fitness for duty, according to Dorothy S. Hicks, the borough’s clerk.

After a short stint at a small department that dissolved, in Wenonah, N.J., Officer Dubiel arrived in Woodlynne last August.

But first, Lt. John Robinson of the Woodlynne force visited Camden’s police headquarters to review Officer Dubiel’s file there. There were some disciplinary infractions, he said, but nothing that seemed serious enough to preclude hiring the officer, and he was unaware that Officer Dubiel had been fired elsewhere. “Maybe we should have looked more deeply,” he said.

Mr. Figueroa, Officer Dubiel’s supervisor in Woodlynne, said that he had been unaware of any past disciplinary records or the firing, and that it “would have certainly been an alert.”

Mr. Cappelli in Camden said, “At no time did Dubiel get a recommendation for employment from our professional standards bureau or the chief of police.”

New Jersey — along with California, Hawaii, Massachusetts and Rhode Island — is among the few states that cannot revoke an officer’s credentials because of misconduct, according to policing experts. Although the state requires officers to undergo training for which they receive a certificate, the police in New Jersey have no analogue to the licenses required of other professionals there — licenses that can be stripped, said Roger Goldman, an emeritus law professor at St. Louis University.

“If the state can take away the license of a barber for misconduct, surely it should be able to do so for a police officer,” Mr. Goldman said.

A secondary problem is that, with no central licensing authority, there is also no statewide system to track police abuse, a spokesman for the attorney general’s office said.
The Protests Begin

Earlier this month, signs in Woodlynne announced a local march against police brutality, after the killing of George Floyd.

Among Officer Dubiel’s posts to the Duby Copperhead Facebook account around that time was a picture of an AR-15-style rifle lying on his knees, with the caption, “Come to the suburbs … please.”

Concerned officers in Camden said they repeatedly complained to the Woodlynne department. Mr. Figueroa said he again gave the officer a talking-to.

“He felt remorse for what he did, and he told us that he’s going to take down the site,” Mr. Figueroa said.

Less than a week after, Officer Dubiel and his partner responded to a 911 call from an upset property manager, claiming that a group of young men were loitering, trespassing and smoking marijuana. It was June 4 at around 1:30 p.m. when Officer Dubiel approached the home of 16-year-old James Horn. He and four friends, ages 15, 17, 18 and 20, were out on the stoop, smoking tobacco cigarettes and talking loudly. Neighbors say they are a nuisance and often get out of hand — one woman pointed to a window she claims they broke — but no one interviewed supported what happened next.

When the officer asked for their IDs, the young men told him to get lost. “It’s my house,” protested the 16-year-old.

Then Officer Dubiel lifted his hand and pepper-sprayed one of them in the face. As they ran, he chased, spraying one, then another several more times. No marijuana was found. The 20-year-old was arrested on charges of smoking tobacco underage smoking; the legal age is 21.

Footage from the officer’s body camera was eventually released, but in the meantime, multiple cellphone videos were uploaded to YouTube. By the time of the Woodlynne protest march three days after the incident, Officer Dubiel had been suspended. In addition to holding up signs calling for justice for Mr. Floyd, residents held up pieces of cardboard showing Officer Dubiel’s name with an X through it, demanding that he be fired. Within days, prosecutors brought the assault charge.
hightor
 
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Wed 24 Jun, 2020 10:38 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
But you are wrong.

You cannot show where I am in error. I simply transcribed bobsal's post.
Quote:
And Bobsal is wrong too.

No, he's correct. "Absolute power of the Executive Branch is vested in the President of the United States" is not a phrase found in the Constitution. That is a fact. If you want to quibble about "100%" vs. "absolute" and whether they mean the same thing, that's a separate issue. But the in the quoted comment bobsal is literally correct.

Understand?
coldjoint
 
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Wed 24 Jun, 2020 11:21 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
9 Departments and Multiple Infractions for One New Jersey Police Officer

Everyone knows there are bad cops. Broadcasting it, and giving the impression all cops are bad is counter productive and only stirs up more hate and division. The is what the media does now and the NYT is at the top of the list.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Wed 24 Jun, 2020 11:45 am
Your big mistake is thinking that was about the cop. It was about the screwed up system that makes plenty of more cops like the example.

You're going to misunderstand the next post, too.
bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Wed 24 Jun, 2020 11:46 am
Wrongfully Accused by an Algorithm


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/24/technology/facial-recognition-arrest.html

In what may be the first known case of its kind, a faulty facial recognition match led to a Michigan man’s arrest for a crime he did not commit.

“This is not me,” Robert Julian-Borchak Williams told investigators. “You think all Black men look alike?”Credit...Sylvia Jarrus for The New York Times

By Kashmir Hill

June 24, 2020, 5:00 a.m. ET

On a Thursday afternoon in January, Robert Julian-Borchak Williams was in his office at an automotive supply company when he got a call from the Detroit Police Department telling him to come to the station to be arrested. He thought at first that it was a prank.

An hour later, when he pulled into his driveway in a quiet subdivision in Farmington Hills, Mich., a police car pulled up behind, blocking him in. Two officers got out and handcuffed Mr. Williams on his front lawn, in front of his wife and two young daughters, who were distraught. The police wouldn’t say why he was being arrested, only showing him a piece of paper with his photo and the words “felony warrant” and “larceny.”

His wife, Melissa, asked where he was being taken. “Google it,” she recalls an officer replying.

The police drove Mr. Williams to a detention center. He had his mug shot, fingerprints and DNA taken, and was held overnight. Around noon on Friday, two detectives took him to an interrogation room and placed three pieces of paper on the table, face down.

“When’s the last time you went to a Shinola store?” one of the detectives asked, in Mr. Williams’s recollection. Shinola is an upscale boutique that sells watches, bicycles and leather goods in the trendy Midtown neighborhood of Detroit. Mr. Williams said he and his wife had checked it out when the store first opened in 2014.

The detective turned over the first piece of paper. It was a still image from a surveillance video, showing a heavyset man, dressed in black and wearing a red St. Louis Cardinals cap, standing in front of a watch display. Five timepieces, worth $3,800, were shoplifted.

“Is this you?” asked the detective.

The second piece of paper was a close-up. The photo was blurry, but it was clearly not Mr. Williams. He picked up the image and held it next to his face.

“No, this is not me,” Mr. Williams said. “You think all Black men look alike?”

Mr. Williams knew that he had not committed the crime in question. What he could not have known, as he sat in the interrogation room, is that his case may be the first known account of an American being wrongfully arrested based on a flawed match from a facial recognition algorithm, according to experts on technology and the law.
A faulty system

A nationwide debate is raging about racism in law enforcement. Across the country, millions are protesting not just the actions of individual officers, but bias in the systems used to surveil communities and identify people for prosecution.

Facial recognition systems have been used by police forces for more than two decades. Recent studies by M.I.T. and the National Institute of Standards and Technology, or NIST, have found that while the technology works relatively well on white men, the results are less accurate for other demographics, in part because of a lack of diversity in the images used to develop the underlying databases.

Last year, during a public hearing about the use of facial recognition in Detroit, an assistant police chief was among those who raised concerns. “On the question of false positives — that is absolutely factual, and it’s well-documented,” James White said. “So that concerns me as an African-American male.”

This month, Amazon, Microsoft and IBM announced they would stop or pause their facial recognition offerings for law enforcement. The gestures were largely symbolic, given that the companies are not big players in the industry. The technology police departments use is supplied by companies that aren’t household names, such as Vigilant Solutions, Cognitec, NEC, Rank One Computing and Clearview AI.

Clare Garvie, a lawyer at Georgetown University’s Center on Privacy and Technology, has written about problems with the government’s use of facial recognition. She argues that low-quality search images — such as a still image from a grainy surveillance video — should be banned, and that the systems currently in use should be tested rigorously for accuracy and bias.

“There are mediocre algorithms and there are good ones, and law enforcement should only buy the good ones,” Ms. Garvie said.

About Mr. Williams’s experience in Michigan, she added: “I strongly suspect this is not the first case to misidentify someone to arrest them for a crime they didn’t commit. This is just the first time we know about it.”
In a perpetual lineup
ImageIn October 2018, someone shoplifted five watches, worth $3,800, from a Shinola store in Detroit.
In October 2018, someone shoplifted five watches, worth $3,800, from a Shinola store in Detroit.Credit...Sylvia Jarrus for The New York Times

Mr. Williams’s case combines flawed technology with poor police work, illustrating how facial recognition can go awry.

The Shinola shoplifting occurred in October 2018. Katherine Johnston, an investigator at Mackinac Partners, a loss prevention firm, reviewed the store’s surveillance video and sent a copy to the Detroit police, according to their report.

Five months later, in March 2019, Jennifer Coulson, a digital image examiner for the Michigan State Police, uploaded a “probe image” — a still from the video, showing the man in the Cardinals cap — to the state’s facial recognition database. The system would have mapped the man’s face and searched for similar ones in a collection of 49 million photos.

The state’s technology is supplied for $5.5 million by a company called DataWorks Plus. Founded in South Carolina in 2000, the company first offered mug shot management software, said Todd Pastorini, a general manager. In 2005, the firm began to expand the product, adding face recognition tools developed by outside vendors.

When one of these subcontractors develops an algorithm for recognizing faces, DataWorks attempts to judge its effectiveness by running searches using low-quality images of individuals it knows are present in a system. “We’ve tested a lot of garbage out there,” Mr. Pastorini said. These checks, he added, are not “scientific” — DataWorks does not formally measure the systems’ accuracy or bias.

“We’ve become a pseudo-expert in the technology,” Mr. Pastorini said.

In Michigan, the DataWorks software used by the state police incorporates components developed by the Japanese tech giant NEC and by Rank One Computing, based in Colorado, according to Mr. Pastorini and a state police spokeswoman. In 2019, algorithms from both companies were included in a federal study of over 100 facial recognition systems that found they were biased, falsely identifying African-American and Asian faces 10 times to 100 times more than Caucasian faces.

Rank One’s chief executive, Brendan Klare, said the company had developed a new algorithm for NIST to review that “tightens the differences in accuracy between different demographic cohorts.”

After Ms. Coulson, of the state police, ran her search of the probe image, the system would have provided a row of results generated by NEC and a row from Rank One, along with confidence scores. Mr. Williams’s driver’s license photo was among the matches. Ms. Coulson sent it to the Detroit police as an “Investigative Lead Report.”

“This document is not a positive identification,” the file says in bold capital letters at the top. “It is an investigative lead only and is not probable cause for arrest.”

This is what technology providers and law enforcement always emphasize when defending facial recognition: It is only supposed to be a clue in the case, not a smoking gun. Before arresting Mr. Williams, investigators might have sought other evidence that he committed the theft, such as eyewitness testimony, location data from his phone or proof that he owned the clothing that the suspect was wearing.

In this case, however, according to the Detroit police report, investigators simply included Mr. Williams’s picture in a “6-pack photo lineup” they created and showed to Ms. Johnston, Shinola’s loss-prevention contractor, and she identified him. (Ms. Johnston declined to comment.)
‘I guess the computer got it wrong’
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The Detroit Detention Center. Mr. Williams was held for 30 hours.
The Detroit Detention Center. Mr. Williams was held for 30 hours.Credit...Sylvia Jarrus for The New York Times

Mr. Pastorini was taken aback when the process was described to him. “It sounds thin all the way around,” he said.

Mr. Klare, of Rank One, found fault with Ms. Johnston’s role in the process. “I am not sure if this qualifies them as an eyewitness, or gives their experience any more weight than other persons who may have viewed that same video after the fact,” he said. John Wise, a spokesman for NEC, said: “A match using facial recognition alone is not a means for positive identification.”

The Friday that Mr. Williams sat in a Detroit police interrogation room was the day before his 42nd birthday. That morning, his wife emailed his boss to say he would miss work because of a family emergency; it broke his four-year record of perfect attendance.

In Mr. Williams’s recollection, after he held the surveillance video still next to his face, the two detectives leaned back in their chairs and looked at one another. One detective, seeming chagrined, said to his partner: “I guess the computer got it wrong.”

They turned over a third piece of paper, which was another photo of the man from the Shinola store next to Mr. Williams’s driver’s license. Mr. Williams again pointed out that they were not the same person.

Mr. Williams asked if he was free to go. “Unfortunately not,” one detective said.

Mr. Williams was kept in custody until that evening, 30 hours after being arrested, and released on a $1,000 personal bond. He waited outside in the rain for 30 minutes until his wife could pick him up. When he got home at 10 p.m., his five-year-old daughter was still awake. She said she was waiting for him because he had said, while being arrested, that he’d be right back.

She has since taken to playing “cops and robbers” and accuses her father of stealing things, insisting on “locking him up” in the living room.
Getting help

The Williams family contacted defense attorneys, most of whom, they said, assumed Mr. Williams was guilty of the crime and quoted prices of around $7,000 to represent him. Ms. Williams, a real estate marketing director and food blogger, also tweeted at the American Civil Liberties Union of Michigan, which took an immediate interest.

“We’ve been active in trying to sound the alarm bells around facial recognition, both as a threat to privacy when it works and a racist threat to everyone when it doesn’t,” said Phil Mayor, an attorney at the organization. “We know these stories are out there, but they’re hard to hear about because people don’t usually realize they’ve been the victim of a bad facial recognition search.”

Two weeks after his arrest, Mr. Williams took a vacation day to appear in a Wayne County court for an arraignment. When the case was called, the prosecutor moved to dismiss, but “without prejudice,” meaning Mr. Williams could later be charged again.

Maria Miller, a spokeswoman for the prosecutor, said a second witness had been at the store in 2018 when the shoplifting occurred, but had not been asked to look at a photo lineup. If the individual makes an identification in the future, she said, the office will decide whether to issue charges.

A Detroit police spokeswoman, Nicole Kirkwood, said that for now, the department “accepted the prosecutor’s decision to dismiss the case.” She also said that the department updated its facial recognition policy in July 2019 so that it is only used to investigate violent crimes.

The department, she said in another statement, “does not make arrests based solely on facial recognition. The investigator reviewed video, interviewed witnesses, conducted a photo lineup.”

On Wednesday, the A.C.L.U. of Michigan filed a complaint with the city, asking for an absolute dismissal of the case, an apology and the removal of Mr. Williams’s information from Detroit’s criminal databases.

The Detroit Police Department “should stop using facial recognition technology as an investigatory tool,” Mr. Mayor wrote in the complaint, adding, “as the facts of Mr. Williams’s case prove both that the technology is flawed and that DPD investigators are not competent in making use of such technology.”

Mr. Williams’s lawyer, Victoria Burton-Harris, said that her client is “lucky,” despite what he went through.

“He is alive,” Ms. Burton-Harris said. “He is a very large man. My experience has been, as a defense attorney, when officers interact with very large men, very large Black men, they immediately act out of fear. They don’t know how to de-escalate a situation.”
‘It was humiliating’

Mr. Williams and his wife have not talked to their neighbors about what happened. They wonder whether they need to put their daughters into therapy. Mr. Williams’s boss advised him not to tell anyone at work.

“My mother doesn’t know about it. It’s not something I’m proud of,” Mr. Williams said. “It’s humiliating.”

He has since figured out what he was doing the evening the shoplifting occurred. He was driving home from work, and had posted a video to his private Instagram because a song he loved came on — 1983’s “We Are One,” by Maze and Frankie Beverly. The lyrics go:

I can’t understand

Why we treat each other in this way

Taking up time

With the silly silly games we play

He had an alibi, had the Detroit police checked for one.

Aaron Krolik contributed reporting.
Frank Apisa
 
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Wed 24 Jun, 2020 11:59 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

I know. There are actually idiots with good hearts and good intentions, just badly wired brains. Trump has no heart and not a good intention in the stack. He does have the badly wired brain.


Yup. He is a slug. (Apologies to any slugs with access to this thread.)
 

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