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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
coldjoint
 
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Sun 14 Jun, 2020 10:55 am
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
I was still negotiating a 10/11 on 12 roof to do the chimney sweep for our wood-burning stove. That is steep...and two stories off the ground.

Impressive. Also a roof with a pitch like that will last forever.
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coldjoint
 
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Sun 14 Jun, 2020 11:13 am

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Steven explains why the current 2020 election polls can’t be trusted and how they are just being used as a political tool.

https://videos.whatfinger.com/2020/06/13/why-the-polls-are-wrong-on-trump-how-the-polls-are-being-faked-in-detail-easy-to-see/
Olivier5
 
  0  
Sun 14 Jun, 2020 11:14 am
@oralloy,
I don't know anything about this case. Pick another. Make it topical to the thread if possible.
glitterbag
 
  5  
Sun 14 Jun, 2020 11:14 am
@Frank Apisa,
Maybe his bone spurs have gotten worse.
izzythepush
 
  3  
Sun 14 Jun, 2020 11:17 am
@glitterbag,
He gripped hold of May for grim death when he came over here.

It was much commented on at the time.

Looks like walking is something else he never quite mastered.
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MontereyJack
 
  3  
Sun 14 Jun, 2020 11:22 am
@coldjoint,
Bullshit as usual. Rants. demonizing, unclear about how polos are taken and whio takes them. It's nokt CNN, it's the pollster. He's an idiot and anyone who takes him seriously shares in the idiocy.
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MontereyJack
 
  2  
Sun 14 Jun, 2020 11:50 am
as I said, ignorant of how language works.
coldjoint
 
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Sun 14 Jun, 2020 11:54 am
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
as I said, ignorant of how language works.

You demonstrate that quite often. Anything else?
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MontereyJack
 
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Sun 14 Jun, 2020 12:06 pm
@coldjoint,
Same problem as when you posted this. Since there are five times as many whites as blacks in this country, there should be five times as many whites shot by cops as blacks if it were proportionate. Since only twice as many whites are shot, it means blacks are close to three times as likely to be shot as whites. Bogus statistics. And of course as we keep hearing from protesters, it's not just shootings, it's the petty indignities blcaks keep sufferings, the stokps, the searches, the driving while black, the studying while black, the existence while black that they have to endure. The contortions conservatives go through to whitewash the situation an longer fly with the overwhelming majority of Americans. Stop being part of the problem, joiint. Another question is, why are whites so complacent about being shot.
oralloy
 
  -3  
Sun 14 Jun, 2020 12:52 pm
@MontereyJack,
Meh. Not my problem.
MontereyJack
 
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Sun 14 Jun, 2020 12:59 pm
@oralloy,
That is the problem your fellow citizens of color face, but you like trump care only about yourself and not the country.
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revelette1
 
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Sun 14 Jun, 2020 01:19 pm
@MontereyJack,
I agree MonteryJack, to that end, I just happened to read the following just prior to coming here.

Quote:
I have received numerous texts and emails from white friends recently — checking in, asking whether I’m okay. I appreciate the concern, and I want everyone to know I’m fine. Well, I’m as fine as I’ve been since 1982. That’s when, after my family moved to a new neighborhood in Chicago, a group of white kids tried to blow up our car by sticking a rag in the gas tank and lighting it on fire.

That is my first memory of what it means to be black in this country. Here is a limited selection of lowlights:

During middle school, as I rode my bike along the street, someone drove by and yelled “n-----.” The car turned around and then tried to knock me off my bike, throwing open a door as it sped past.

During high school, as I sat in my car waiting for a friend, police officers approached with their hands on their guns and demanded that I get out. After I calmly stepped out, they pushed me against the car and asked to search my pockets. I refused, not because I had anything to hide — I didn’t drink and avoided drugs — but because I was outraged at the affront to my dignity. The police impounded my car, arrested me, told me I would amount to nothing and locked me in a holding cell for about 12 hours. Still, I know it could have been worse.

After college, during a recruiting visit to a PhD program at Stanford University, someone called the police to investigate as I went to enter the apartment I had been lent for the visit. I decided not to attend Stanford, though a different department at Stanford later hired me, and I have risen through the ranks to become a chaired professor and a senior associate dean.

A couple of years ago, I had to pay to have that arrest expunged from my record to get an international visa. For me, this was a minor, yet infuriating, inconvenience. But under different circumstances it could have been a major life impediment.

These are not stories I tell often, and I’m not looking for sympathy. My experiences are more benign than those of many others. I share this to help people understand that none of the events that have recently sparked outrage are threats that I wasn’t already familiar with. I incorporated them into my life long ago; they guided many of my personal and professional activities. So, I’m doing about the same as I have been for the past 38 years.

The question I would pose to my white friends: Are you okay? Are you okay after seeing a Minneapolis police officer casually pressing the life out of George Floyd? Are you okay after learning that police rushed in and shot Breonna Taylor, a woman not accused of wrongdoing, in her apartment? Are you okay after watching three white men chase and kill Ahmaud Arbery? Are you okay after watching an apparently liberal woman functionally weaponize her whiteness in Central Park? I know that many feel terrible that such atrocities continue to happen. I don’t know whether people understand that, because they are white, they are subject to the same forces that produced Derek Chauvin, the officers in Kentucky, those men in Georgia and Amy Cooper in New York.

Maybe you believe you have nothing in common with those people, that good intentions, tolerant upbringings or enlightened parenting will protect against such corruption. Maybe you believe the diverse activism on display nationwide will make things right. But sincere concern and time have not fixed our problems. They are not enough to protect any of us from the influence of the malignant system we all live in.

A significant part of my professional work has involved researching the psychological consequences of being white in this country. I and others have found that whites have deep discomfort with the realities of whiteness in America. When faced with evidence of white privilege, white folks report more life hardships. Of course, white people, like everyone else, face genuine hardships, but these hardships do not negate white privilege. Consider the difference in responses to the suffering of black people during the crack cocaine epidemic and that of rural whites during the opioid epidemic. One resulted in criminalization that devastated black communities; the other generated calls for an empathetic social response to those trapped in circumstances not of their making.

The question going forward is whether people suppress the desire to deny this problem or distance themselves from it. The forces that created the monsters so many now decry also help to generate white privileges. Talk alone will not dismantle a system that has torn at all Americans — body, mind and soul — since this country’s inception. It’s time to educate friends and family, and demand more of leaders. It is time to be more than a cheerleader or ally and find ways to make permanent change.

This will not be easy. The price of justice — the loss of privilege — will be a painful shock. But the privileges of dominance come at a steep moral and psychological price for whites and cause others significant harm. As Frederick Douglass said, without struggle, there is no progress. Let’s struggle together for our collective soul.



By Brian S. Lowery
Brian Lowery is a professor of organizational behavior and senior associate dean for academic affairs at Stanford University’s Graduate School of Business.

To my white friends, the time for talk has passed. Now is the time for work.
Frank Apisa
 
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Sun 14 Jun, 2020 01:28 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

Well, the Navy got today something for Trump to exercise

https://i.imgur.com/KFIEZtM.jpg





Wow...that really looks dangerous. I think Trump would **** his pants just looking at it.
MontereyJack
 
  2  
Sun 14 Jun, 2020 01:30 pm
@oralloy,
truth, not hate speech at all. Conservatives hate it when you expose their bigoted bullshit. They shut their eyes and stick fingers in their ears.
MontereyJack
 
  3  
Sun 14 Jun, 2020 01:34 pm
@oralloy,
the problem is sociopathy, inability to empathize with anyone else.
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oralloy
 
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Sun 14 Jun, 2020 01:56 pm
@revelette1,
Brian S. Lowery wrote:
Are you okay after watching three white men chase and kill Ahmaud Arbery?

They thought he was a burglar.

And considering the way Amy Cooper was lynched for calling the police, it is reasonable for people to take matters into their own hands instead of relying on the police.


Brian S. Lowery wrote:
Are you okay after watching an apparently liberal woman functionally weaponize her whiteness in Central Park? I know that many feel terrible that such atrocities continue to happen.

It is hardly an atrocity for a woman to call the police when she is being menaced by a stranger.

The way Amy Cooper was lynched for calling the police shows that the guys in Georgia were justified in handling a suspected burglar by themselves.
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oralloy
 
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Sun 14 Jun, 2020 02:00 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:
I don't know anything about this case. Pick another. Make it topical to the thread if possible.

This thread has no topic.

Trayvon Martin was shot in justified self defense as he tried to murder the captain of the neighborhood watch.

Michael Brown was shot in in justified self defense as he tried to murder a police officer.

Eric Garner died from injuries that he sustained while resisting arrest.

Philando Castile was shot because he ignored clear commands to keep his hands visible and reached for an unknown object.

Terence Crutcher was shot because he looked like he was on PCP, was in fact on PCP, ignored clear commands to keep his hands visible, and reached for an unknown object.

Tamir Rice was shot because he pointed a very realistic looking toy gun at police officers.

Black Lives Matter wants to prevent police officers from defending themselves when a black person tries to murder them.
 

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