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revelette1
 
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Sun 12 Feb, 2017 04:02 pm
Does the White House stand by Michael Flynn? No comment

Quote:
In a series of appearances, Trump’s top domestic policy adviser Stephen Miller demurred when asked about Flynn amid reports that the national security adviser spoke with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak before Inauguration Day and urged Moscow to show restraint in its response to sanctions implemented by the Obama administration. Those conversations were interpreted by some senior U.S. officials as an inappropriate and potentially illegal overture to the Kremlin.

“I don’t have any news to make you today on this point,” Miller said on ABC’s “This Week” when anchor George Stephanopolous asked about Flynn’s interactions with Kislyak. That prompted Stephanopoulos to ask, “Then why are you coming on if you can’t answer the questions being posed about the White House?”

On NBC’s “Meet the Press,” when moderator Chuck Todd asked whether Trump still had confidence in Flynn, Miller said he did not know. He said his colleagues at the White House “did not give me anything to say.”
“It’s not for me to tell you what’s in the president’s mind,” Miller told Todd. “That’s a question for the president, that’s a question for our chief of staff.”

Flynn’s contact with Russian officials contradicts past public statements by several top officials, including Vice President Pence, who in a series of television interviews before Inauguration Day acknowledged that Flynn had limited contact with Kislyak late last year, but that the issue of sanctions was never raised.
blatham
 
  4  
Sun 12 Feb, 2017 04:08 pm
@farmerman,
Quote:
As much as I hate to say, we have to brace up the moron and let his term finish to maintain the govt as we know it.

I think so. I am frightened by the chaos that seems certain to follow any serious move (by anyone) to depose him. Or the chaos that would follow from a serious psychological breakdown.

More cynically, the longer he remains up top, the more likely it is that citizens will come to equate Trump and the GOP/conservatives (and they should make that equation given how the GOP has lauded and supported him for their purposes). That's bound to push the dial away from extremism and back towards something more sane.
farmerman
 
  2  
Sun 12 Feb, 2017 04:11 pm
@timur,
we, as kids, used the word kak as a ecret kid slang term for ****, pretty close .

he he he.

revelette1
 
  2  
Sun 12 Feb, 2017 04:13 pm
@blatham,
I agree with osso, I don't know what is worse or better, impeaching Trump with Pence waiting in the wings or just letting him keep on doing what he is doing. For the most part, I haven't seen any distance between Trump and Pence.
blatham
 
  2  
Sun 12 Feb, 2017 04:14 pm
@revelette1,
This Miller dude has made his big entrance on the scene today. It's not going well.

Imagine what kind of a douchebag you'd have to be to even accept this role. Or how much of one you'll become as you try to do what's asked of you.

There's a reason Melissa McCarthy's satirization of Spicer has immediately become so popular.
ossobucotemp
 
  1  
Sun 12 Feb, 2017 04:15 pm
@blatham,
I edited my last reply, re what some of us are thinking.
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revelette1
 
  2  
Sun 12 Feb, 2017 04:17 pm
@blatham,
He should have at least have had some lines prepared or something rather than just saying "I don't know" to everything. It just seemed a waste of time for everybody concerned.
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farmerman
 
  4  
Sun 12 Feb, 2017 04:17 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
number of them (including participants here) who previously expressed strong sentiments against Trump and are now falling in line as a function of tribal allegiance ( you head right towards the 'good German' thing.
Theres the weirdness of it all. Even the GOP abandoned Nixon, here we have a demagogue in training and theyre printing up bumper stickers and team tee shirts with his fatass on em
ossobucotemp
 
  2  
Sun 12 Feb, 2017 04:18 pm
@farmerman,
Some of us remember Miller as Kak on the NYTimes site, Abuzz.
I'm not absolutely positive about us being right, but I'm not the only one who remembers.

Er, a2k's Miller, not Steve, or whatever his name is.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
  1  
Sun 12 Feb, 2017 04:33 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:


Gun-toting flaggots are feverishly at work concocting scary dystopian scenarios where the estimated half-billion privately owned firearms in the USA are somehow "banned" while gangs of young jihadists and Mexicans rampage through suburbia, attacking nursing homes, pulling plugs and stealing drugs.

What's more likely is that some decrepit senior's opioid-addicted grand kid will bust into the house and steal the poor old semi-comatose sod's gun collection. Incompetent, functionally disabled, senescent individuals with lethal weapons represent a threat to themselves and people the around them. And I doubt they could fulfill their obligation to the militia. It's supposed to be "well regulated" not "well medicated".



That's a bit over the top don't you think?

You're pretty harsh on the aged and the addicted too.
blatham
 
  2  
Sun 12 Feb, 2017 04:34 pm
An interesting phenomenon I've noted is how people working around a 'high status' individual will sometimes take on the mannerisms (physical or speech patterns) of that person? Look at the facial expressions here.

http://www168.lunapic.com/do-not-link-here-use-hosting-instead/148684373495817?513199390
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Sun 12 Feb, 2017 04:35 pm
@maporsche,
Actually that was blasphemy, something which I would have sworn you are familiar.
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blatham
 
  2  
Sun 12 Feb, 2017 04:39 pm
WTF?
Quote:
One of President Trump’s longtime friends made a striking move on Sunday: After talking privately with the president over drinks late Friday, Christopher Ruddy publicly argued that Trump should replace his White House chief of staff.

“A lot of people have been saying, ‘Look, Donald has some problems,’ and I think he realizes that he’s got to make some changes going forward,” Ruddy said in an interview with The Washington Post.

Ruddy went on to detail his critique of White House chief of staff Reince Priebus: “It’s my view that Reince is the problem. I think on paper Reince looked good as the chief of staff — and Donald trusted him — but it’s pretty clear the guy is in way over his head. He’s not knowledgeable of how federal agencies work, how the communications operations work. He botched this whole immigration rollout. This should’ve been a win for Donald, not two or three weeks of negative publicity.”

Ruddy insisted that he was speaking only for himself and not the president, and he would not reveal whether Trump had confided in him about Priebus because the conversation was private.


Impossible to know at this point what is going on here but it ain't good for Reince.
Finn dAbuzz
 
  -2  
Sun 12 Feb, 2017 04:49 pm
@layman,
Thanks but not quite.

"Jesus wept!" Is an attempt to soften "Jesus Christ!" but to real believers they are both blasphemy.

I believe in a god, but not that Jesus is his son, his alter-ego or anything else but an enlightened human of great importance and wisdom.

Maporsche is trying to be clever. It's something he/she attempts with regularity but usually fails at. This time was such a failure.

Whenever people tell me or anyone what Jesus would do if he was alive today or how God thinks about our petty little squabbles, they are presuming to know the mind of God (assuming they are a Christian), and, most often, attempting to tell me or their target that neither would agree with us. It's fatuous and if you're a Christian, dangerous, but it makes liberal Christians feel all warm and fuzzy: The Christ would have been marching with all those women in DC!

blatham
 
  2  
Sun 12 Feb, 2017 04:52 pm
@blatham,
The author of the Observer piece I linked to earlier has, I've discovered since, some credibility issues. I'll follow up as I learn more.
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blatham
 
  2  
Sun 12 Feb, 2017 04:54 pm
This is true.
Quote:
Sarah Kendzior ‏@sarahkendzior 7h7 hours ago
Sarah Kendzior Retweeted Bruce Stokes
Took George W Bush seven years, two wars, and a hurricane to get to this point. Trump: three weeks.
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ossobucotemp
 
  1  
Sun 12 Feb, 2017 04:56 pm
A fraction of my life's present suffering, not to whine, is that whenever I read various online papers, even from England, I am faced with a large portrait of Hairman with lips pursed. That ruins my five minutes at a time.

Not to make fun of people's looks exactly - I could, and maybe should do the odd sketch or two or ten of myself, far different from when an assignment in art class in the seventies called for a large nude self portrait. I think I tossed it, not from embarrassment, but that I thought it wasn't that good. Crap, I should have taken a photo. Anyway, self portraits by me these days would vary from comedic to serious observations. I think I can still draw, so far so good. Don't own a full length mirror.
Finn dAbuzz
 
  1  
Sun 12 Feb, 2017 04:59 pm
@hightor,
What I find to be sad was the horrible choice presented to us that led me to vote for Trump. He's certainly no prince and my initial hope that he was a lot more clever than he seemed is starting to fade, but I would still vote for him rather than HRC in a NY minute. I also find it sad that his critics are demonstrating such hysteria in their opposition that truth and rational thought has been thrown out the window.

ossobucotemp
 
  1  
Sun 12 Feb, 2017 05:04 pm
@blatham,
Not that I like anybody, but I consider Reince better.
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hightor
 
  6  
Sun 12 Feb, 2017 05:23 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
It reminds me of how I felt when Clinton was president, although it wasn't that difficult to vote for him. Honestly, when I vote for a president I'm voting for the platform, the cabinet, the judicial choices, the margin of victory — I'm basing my choice on a lot more than the person at the top of the ticket. I felt that all the choices were sub-optimal politicians. I have to hand it to the evangelicals who held their noses and voted for Trump; verily they shall find reward. You do what you have to do. Doesn't mean anyone has to stick up for the guy on a personal level even if they did vote for him. I often feel more contented when living under an opposition regime because I don't get worn out trying to defend and explain away the stupid actions of the party or president in power.
 

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