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oralloy
 
  0  
Wed 10 Jun, 2020 05:13 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:
It’s always a combination of things. In this case I suspect sadism played a significant role, together with racism. My theory is that the cop was deriving pleasure and satisfaction from suffocating another man. That would explain why he did it for so long: he was simply enjoying his sadistic high a bit too much... so much that he killed him.

Or maybe he was trying to subdue someone who was resisting arrest.
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coldjoint
 
  1  
Wed 10 Jun, 2020 05:27 pm
Quote:
House Democrats Quietly Shelve 2019 Bill To Strengthen Police Unions

Oops. Talk about fair weather friends. Police unions are not as strong as the Teachers Union. Try firing a teacher.
Quote:
House Democrats are shelving bill H.R. 1154 that would have allowed all public safety workers, including police, to collectively bargain with the government over the terms of their employment, according to Axios. The bill was introduced by Rep. Dan Kildee (D-MI) and Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick (R-PA) and co-sponsored by 225 other lawmakers, 206 of whom are Democrats.

There will be no police men or supporters of the police voting Democratic.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/house-democrats-quietly-shelve-2019-bill-to-strengthen-police-unions?%3Futm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dwtwitter
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MontereyJack
 
  -2  
Wed 10 Jun, 2020 05:37 pm
@coldjoint,
Hasn't been any communist propaganda in thirty years. get over it.
coldjoint
 
  1  
Wed 10 Jun, 2020 05:54 pm
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
Hasn't been any communist propaganda in thirty years.

You don't recognize it. It never stopped. Communism like totalitarian ideology is relentless.

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blatham
 
  -1  
Wed 10 Jun, 2020 07:24 pm
Quote:
Greg Sargent
@ThePlumLineGS
30m
The Trump campaign's internals show him "down in swing states, and down with key demographics including women and independents," ABC reports.

Joe Biden is positioned to win "by a significant number of electoral votes based on the campaign's analysis."
see here
coldjoint
 
  2  
Wed 10 Jun, 2020 07:30 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
Joe Biden is positioned to win

Joe is positioned to win a lifetime in a memory care assisted living facility.
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Wed 10 Jun, 2020 07:49 pm
From May 16
https://i2.wp.com/truepundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/2020-06-07_15h54_15.png?w=595&ssl=1
Floyd died the 25th of May. Sure looks like him
https://truepundit.com/watch-suspiscious-mystery-grows-whether-obama-tweeted-photo-of-george-floyd-nine-days-before-his-death/
MontereyJack
 
  -2  
Wed 10 Jun, 2020 08:11 pm
@coldjoint,
you guys are sick.
coldjoint
 
  3  
Wed 10 Jun, 2020 08:18 pm
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
you guys are sick.

Facts are not sick. That picture appeared before Floyd's death on an Obama Foundation Tweet. Why is the question.
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Brandon9000
 
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Wed 10 Jun, 2020 08:27 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
He was fired due to public outrage. Racism is what caused his death in the first place.

You can’t be that blind.

That may well be so or it may not be, but if you insist that you know it right now, then give me a scrap of actual evidence.
Brandon9000
 
  1  
Wed 10 Jun, 2020 08:29 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:
It’s always a combination of things. In this case I suspect sadism played a significant role, together with racism. My theory is that the cop was deriving pleasure and satisfaction from suffocating another man. That would explain why he did it for so long: he was simply enjoying his sadistic high a bit too much... so much that he killed him.

That may well be so, but at present we have zero hard evidence that I have seen regarding motive.
MontereyJack
 
  -1  
Wed 10 Jun, 2020 08:34 pm
@Brandon9000,
there're some intesdting reports that both Chauvin and flkoyd worked for the same club, and they didn't get on, and Chauvin was not liked for his over the top actions as sdcuryity but Floyd was well liked. Saw it on the tube, will see what's on line.EDIT: found it but the tv account was fuller.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/derek-chauvin-nightclub-george-floyd-security-shifts-el-nuevo-rodeo-minneapolis/
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coldjoint
 
  1  
Wed 10 Jun, 2020 11:56 pm
Quote:
Sister Of Fallen Police Officer Asks ‘Where Is The Outrage’ Over Her Brother’s Death

Anyone got an answer for her?

https://dailycaller.com/2020/06/10/killed-riot-outrage-george-floyd-police-officer/
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Olivier5
 
  1  
Thu 11 Jun, 2020 01:22 am
@Brandon9000,
Quote:
at present we have zero hard evidence that I have seen regarding motive.

His motives are immaterial, unknowable and irrelevant. Maybe he did it because his wife enjoyed black cocks a little too much. Who cares?

The important thing is that the sanction must be exemplary so as to send a clear message to other cops. Period.
snood
 
  3  
Thu 11 Jun, 2020 02:25 am
The American President just tweeted that terrorists have taken over a western US city (Seattle). And we all shrugged. That’s how batshit crazy this guy has made this country.
Walter Hinteler
 
  1  
Thu 11 Jun, 2020 02:32 am
@snood,
Very disturbing the earlier tweet as well:
Quote:
Take back your city NOW. If you don’t do it, I will. This is not a game. These ugly Anarchists must be stooped IMMEDIATELY. MOVE FAST!
snood
 
  1  
Thu 11 Jun, 2020 02:40 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

Very disturbing the earlier tweet as well:
Quote:
Take back your city NOW. If you don’t do it, I will. This is not a game. These ugly Anarchists must be stooped IMMEDIATELY. MOVE FAST!



I feel like I have to will my mind to numbness to read the news, or just be maximum stressed and cray cray.

He needs to GO
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izzythepush
 
  2  
Thu 11 Jun, 2020 03:15 am
@Brandon9000,
If you’re still asking for evidence of institutional racism in the police you really are blind. There’s the video footage, not just of George Floyd but of other black people being harassed and killed by the police, including a pregnant woman being tasered in her car. There’s all the statements by black people detailing the prejudice they’ve experienced. There’s the raw data showing black people are disproportionately, stopped, arrested and killed.

If you still insist there’s no evidence then you’re blind most likely wilfully so. Either you’re hiding your head in the sand or you're Every bit as racist as the police who killed George Floyd. In either case there’s no point arguing with you because no amount of evidence will make you change your mind
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hightor
 
  4  
Thu 11 Jun, 2020 04:14 am
@coldjoint,
Another example of fake news from one of coldjoint's favorite news sources. Rolling Eyes

Fact Check: The Obama Foundation Did NOT Post George Floyd Protest Sign on Twitter Days Before He Died

Wouldn't it make sense to do a little bit of research before foisting this idiocy on the rest of us and making yourself look stupid?

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hightor
 
  5  
Thu 11 Jun, 2020 04:22 am
US anti-vaxxers aim to spread fear over future coronavirus vaccine

Anti-vaxxers’ influence and power could affect Americans’ willingness to take a Covid-19 vaccine, experts warn

Quote:
A coronavirus vaccine may be a long way away, but there is already a threat on the horizon: anti-vaxxers.

Once a fringe presence in America, vaccine opponents have become better organized in recent years, a development that has contributed to the worst US measles outbreak in a generation in 2019.

Buoyed by their better organization anti-vaxxers have now taken aim at the very thing epidemiologists say can defeat the devastating coronavirus: an as yet undeveloped vaccine. Experts studying the movement warn anti-vaxxers influence and power could affect Americans’ willingness to take a Covid-19 vaccine and recent studies suggest this is a real issue.

In early May, a survey by two academics found that 23% of Americans would not be willing to get vaccinated against Covid-19. In a separate poll by Morning Consult, 14% said they wouldn’t get vaccinated, and another 22% were unsure. And according to a new Associated Press-NORC poll, only about half of Americans say they would get a Covid-19 vaccine if available. With more than 1.6m coronavirus cases in the US, and a more than 100,000 deaths, a mass refusal could have dangerous consequences.

Anti-vaxxers make up a small percentage of the US population, but just at the time when vaccines are most needed, they are thrusting themselves to the fore, especially on social media and in the growing movement to reopen an economy shutdown to fight the virus’ spread.

Opponents of vaccines have been ever-present at anti-stay at home protests in states across the country. They have pushed conspiracy theories ranging from the false idea that immunizations cause childhood illness, to the outrageous claim that Bill Gates is using vaccinations as a tool to microchip the world’s population.

Some of the apparent rise in anti-vaxx thinking can be attributed to Donald Trump’s blurring of fact and fiction, and questioning of science and officials from his own government.

Experts say social media has been a huge driving force too. Ideas that vaccines cause autism – a debunked theory still popular among anti-vaxxers – abound on Facebook, along with notions of governments and pharmaceutical companies collaborating to make money from duping regular people.

Like the protests against stay-at-home orders that anti-vaxxers joined at state houses, however, the anti-vaccine movement isn’t as organic and grassroots as it might seem.

On Facebook, the opposition to vaccines has been fueled by advertising paid for by two well-funded organizations; the Stop Mandatory Vaccination organization and Children’s Health Defense – led by Robert F Kennedy Jr, the son of Robert F Kennedy who has found a niche within the anti-vax movement.

Joe Pierre, a professor of psychiatry at the University of California, Los Angeles who writes on conspiracies and disinformation, said there are “psychological quirks” associated with a belief in conspiracy theories.

“One of those psychological quirks is a need for uniqueness,” Pierre said. “This is the idea that people who are attracted to conspiracy theories often feel like they stumbled upon some secret reality that the rest of us sheep – or sheeple, as conspiracy theorists like to refer to us – don’t know about. So there’s a certain sense of feeling special that you’re the privy to that information.”

With a potential coronavirus vaccine hopefully looming, two anti-vaccine activists held a “Freedom Health Summit” in April, inviting speakers to share information they were privy to.

The speakers list read like a who’s who of discredited scientists and conspiracy theorists, including disgraced Briton Andrew Wakefield, who was stripped of his medical license after he published a fraudulent study linking the measles, mumps and rubella vaccine to autism.

Despite Wakefield’s claims being disproven numerous times, he is seen as a reliable voice in the anti-vax movement, as is Judy Mikovits, a former scientific researcher popular among anti-vaccine supporters.

Like Wakefield, Mikovits has been disowned by the scientific community, but has sprung to broader fame since coronavirus began, thanks to her appearance in Plandemic, a disinformation film which was watched by millions when it was released in early May.

Mikovits, who claims – wrongly – that wearing face masks “activates” the coronavirus, was invited to speak at the Freedom Health Summit by organizers Stephanie Lind and Alana Newman, who spoke to the Guardian as part of a film on the anti-vaccine movement.

Anti-vaxxers aren’t exclusive to the US. In the past week reports have emerged of anti-vax being on the rise in Germany and Australia. Measles cases tripled in Europe in 2018, with Ukraine responsible for more than half the 83,000 cases, a rise spurred by anti-vaccine sentiment.

The US, however, has an outsized influence on anti-vaxxers worldwide.

“The US has the more vocal group of people out there – because it’s a very vocal society anyways, and [because it] has access to the vehicles of culture worldwide,” said Dr Saad Omer, an epidemiologist at Yale University.

“The discussions, even internal discussions that happened in the US are heard around the world,” he added.

In terms of thwarting the impact of anti-vaxxers, experts say the focus must be on winning over those who are less ardently anti-vaccine, who might only be dipping a toe into the hardcore anti-vax movement.

“If parents have questions, if they don’t go in this outlandish direction in those conspiracies, and they have concerns and they asked their physicians, that’s perfectly legitimate,” Omar said. He said the onus will be on health care providers and doctors to not treat the skeptics with contempt, but rather to answer people’s questions with respect.

“And to have communication approaches that are in line with those values of respect and, and not being patronizing,” Omer said.

“I sometimes say that if yelling at parents were a good idea, then teenagers would be the most efficient and effective communicators. That never works."

guardian

If I'm not mistaken, wasn't Trump an anti-vaxxer?

Quote:


Healthy young child goes to doctor, gets pumped with massive shot of many vaccines, doesn’t feel good and changes – AUTISM. Many such cases!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 28, 2014

 

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