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bobsal u1553115
 
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Sun 17 May, 2020 07:58 am
https://i.imgur.com/c0z7rGq.png
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revelette3
 
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Sun 17 May, 2020 09:19 am
@lmur,
Quote:
The following tweet from Sen. Susan Collins:
'The President has not provided the kind of justification for the removal of IG Linick required by this law.'

elicited the following response:
I'm pretty tired, so can we just skip to the part where you don't do anything?'


Ain't it the truth, we've seen this play before and know how it all ends.

Personally, I just consider it so much distraction at a time we don't need it considering it's all useless anyway. Like Trump said at the start of it all, "he could walk down the fifth avenue and shoot somebody and no one would do anything." (or similarly enough words to that effect) We should have believed the snake at the beginning of his candidacy.
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revelette3
 
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Sun 17 May, 2020 09:30 am
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Almost 90,000 dead and no hint of national mourning. Are these deaths not ‘ours’?

Over the course of a week, as the national death toll from covid-19 marched steadily toward 90,000, President Trump returned repeatedly to the idea that America is at war with the coronavirus. At a mask factory in Arizona on May 5, an event honoring nurses the next day in the Oval Office and a wreath-laying at the National World War II Memorial two days later, he said that Americans should think of ourselves as “warriors,” because “we can’t keep our country closed down for years,” and that, as we have in the past, we would “triumph.” The idea is to encourage us to collective effort and common sacrifice, to exhort us to put country ahead of ourselves and our conveniences, to stay strong in the face of psychic and physical pain, isolation, fear and loss. And, of course, go to work, shop and dine out for the greater good, knowing that it may mean sacrificing our lives or loved ones. That’s what it means now to be a warrior.

But if we are all warriors, why aren’t the currently more than 86,000 American pandemic dead treated as patriots and honored for their sacrifices? The metaphor appears to stop at death’s door. Our war dead are buried in the hallowed ground of Arlington National Cemetery in Virginia. Our pandemic dead are more likely to end up in the anonymous ground of Hart Island in New York, a sort of potter’s field where it has long been considered a dishonor for a soldier to lie. It is a fate the national cemetery system was designed to avoid.

In fact, there is a conspicuous absence of any collective mourning at all. The reason is as simple as it is terrible: We share no understanding of these staggering losses as ours, as belonging to all Americans, as national.

Americans have a common set of expectations and rituals for responding to national losses, whether they’re from war, terrorism, school shootings, natural disasters or assassinations. We lower flags to half-staff. We hold candlelight vigils. We leave flowers, stuffed animals and messages of sympathy at sites that have witnessed horrors. We pause for moments of silence. We speak the names of the dead. We observe funereal pageantry from sidewalks, on television and online. We build memorials. This public repertoire includes a range of official and more organic responses; it is sometimes declarative and often ambient. It is always productive — of emotions, communities and common causes.

The pandemic dead have received almost none of this, and the omission is significant — even if the dying is still just beginning. Shared grief brings people together like little else. In the absence of the common bonds of kinship, place, language, faith or heritage, national identity is forged in ritual and the sense of shared experience among strangers, the vast majority of whom will never know one another. It is made of feeling and remembering together. The English poet Laurie Lee put it this way in “Lying in State,” about the public memorializing of Winston Churchill at his death: “Every resounding event seems to be followed by silence as history catches its breath. So it is this morning in this great bare hall — a silence like a fall of snow, holding the city and the world in a moment of profound reflection, reducing all men to a levelled pause.”

One of the best examples of this “levelled pause” came in a headline in Le Monde on Sept. 12, 2001: “Nous sommes tous Américains” — “We are all Americans.” Just thinking about it brings a lump to the throat. It is as perfect as it is devastating, not least because we know what comes after. We know the coalitions, wars and further terrorism these feelings will also fuel. The line between patriotism and nationalism is a thin one, and collective mourning feeds both.

But in the case of the pandemic, even Americans apparently are not “all Americans,” or rather some are less recognized in national kinship. The covid-19 dead are disproportionately urban, people of color, immigrants, the undocumented, the incarcerated, the elderly in nursing homes and state care facilities, the poor, the uninsured, the chronically ill, service workers and delivery people.

Judith Butler, in her book “Precarious Life: The Powers of Mourning and Violence,” writes that “the obituary functions as the instrument by which grievability is publicly distributed, an icon for national self-recognition.” This means “we have to consider the obituary as an act of nation-building.” There have been obituaries for some of the covid-19 dead, it’s true, but the one big national “obituary” is missing. Butler was writing about the absence of obituaries for the war casualties that the United States inflicts, but her words could as easily apply to the pandemic about which Trump has said, “I don’t take responsibility at all.” For there to be an obituary, Butler wrote, “there would have had to have been a life, a life worth valuing and preserving, a life that qualifies for recognition.”

Other presidents, too, struggled to create such national obituaries. President Ronald Reagan led the grieving for the victims of the explosion of the space shuttle Challenger. But he also failed until the very end of his administration to acknowledge, much less seek to collectively mourn, the thousands who died of AIDS during that time. National mourning rituals are dependent upon who the dead are and what they represent.

Fierce collective grief and radical rage filled the vacuum of Reagan and later President George H.W. Bush’s omission in the first decade of AIDS, transforming the meaning of public mourning. Activists staged a “Bring the Dead to the White House” demonstration that coincided with a more elegiac act of public mourning, the exhibition of the AIDS Memorial Quilt on the Mall. Participants hurled the ashes of their partners over the fence onto the White House grounds, with one activist explaining that although he thought the quilt was a good thing, “it’s making something beautiful out of the epidemic, and I felt like doing something like this as a way of showing there’s nothing beautiful about it.”

There have been no political funerals for the pandemic dead. In the absence of official national mourning, we’ve not seen many spontaneous memorials or vigils at all. Instead, plenty of flag-waving demonstrations to end stay-at-home orders and reopen businesses pop up all over the country. We’ve seen American Patriot Rally protesters armed with rifles in the Michigan State House as legislators debated whether to approve the governor’s request to extend the shutdown in that state. We’ve seen pandemic-fatigued New Yorkers rush to parks on the first warm day, barely distanced and some unmasked. But we’ve seen no comparable mass action for the dead.

The power of national mourning is not unique to the United States, but it is heightened here, made more potent by the rarity of common bonds among a sprawling and diverse population. In his first inaugural address, President Abraham Lincoln famously appealed to the bonds that do exist as the “mystic chords of memory” — ties that stretch “from every battle-field, and patriot grave, to every living heart and hearthstone, all over this broad land.” At the center of these connective strands has always been the “patriot grave.” Sixty years later, the less-quotable President Warren G. Harding stood before an enormous crowd at Arlington, a legacy of the Civil War that was by 1921 the country’s most revered patriotic site. The occasion was the interment of the Great War’s Unknown Soldier. In his eulogy, Harding described the national cemetery and its new tomb as “the heart of the Nation sorrowing for its noble dead,” positing a large and varied population made into one body — sharing a heart — through mourning and honoring the fallen. Since that day, the ritual of wreath-laying at the tomb, official and otherwise, as much by average people as by the elite and powerful, is a persistent reenactment of this country’s motto, E pluribus unum: Out of many, one.

China recently observed a National Day of Mourning, and Spain plans to have a period of mourning when its lockdown eases. In the United States, we have not had so much as a collective moment of silence, even as the number of covid-19 deaths exceeded the number of Americans killed in the Vietnam War. The American flag still flies high atop the White House. Instead, every reference to the costs of the pandemic seems to refer to individual losses and pain, the private grieving that is now rampant. This is not to minimize the personal trauma compounding the sorrow that surrounds these deaths, but we do need to acknowledge the collective toll, to all share in this grief — including those of us who have not experienced an immediate loss. A nation of “warriors” honors its fallen.


WP
bobsal u1553115
 
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Sun 17 May, 2020 10:08 am
Lawmaker claims Hitler was not white supremacist after comparing coronavirus measures to Nazi rule

The Washington Post


Hannah Knowles and Candace Buckner, The Washington Post
Published 6:52 pm PDT, Saturday, May 16, 2020

The uproar began when an Alaska lawmaker emailed all 39 of his statehouse colleagues to compare health screening stickers to the badges that singled out Jews during the Holocaust.

"If my sticker falls off, do I get a new one or do I get public shaming too?" Rep. Ben Carpenter, a Republican, wrote Friday, sharing his dismay at a new requirement for legislators returning to the Alaska Capitol amid the coronavirus pandemic. "Are the stickers available as a yellow Star of David?"

The backlash was swift: "Ben, this is disgusting," one Jewish representative wrote back in emails first posted by the Alaska Landmine. "I don't think a tag that we're cleared to enter the building is akin to being shipped to a concentration camp," responded another. The leader of the state House's Republican delegation said Carpenter should apologize.

"Can you or I - can we even say it is totally out of the realm of possibility that covid-19 patients will be rounded up and taken somewhere?" he said later in an interview with the Anchorage Daily News, arguing that officials are overreacting to the coronavirus with limits on people's liberty. "People want to say Hitler was a white supremacist. No. He was fearful of the Jewish nation, and that drove him into some unfathomable atrocities."

Read more: https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Lawmaker-claims-Hitler-was-not-white-supremacist-15275607.php
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hightor
 
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Sun 17 May, 2020 10:50 am
@revelette3,
You get the feeling that the MAGAtards consider these victims traitors, just dying to make Trump look bad. One character on this message board regularly accuses people of "hoping for more dead" so that the figures can be used against Trump because, god knows, it's all about Trump. Mention the rising number of deaths and you'll be called a "scare merchant". Nothin' to worry about folks, it's just the elderly and the infirm. Let's get the tattoo parlors open again.

Yup, great country we got here.

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi1.wp.com%2Focscanner.news%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2019%2F03%2FDumpFire.jpg%3Ffit%3D800%252C487%26ssl%3D1&f=1&nofb=1
blatham
 
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Sun 17 May, 2020 10:55 am
Here's an important historical factor that had escaped me about the Goldwater period and the rise of movement conservatism - how it featured within the east coast banking/Wall Street world in tandem with its influence in Texas, California, the south and the far west.
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In the general election, Goldwater lost—spectacularly—to Lyndon Johnson. But his brand of libertarian, antitax absolutism found a fervent audience among American executives who were confronting an alarming change: after a quarter century of relentless growth, American profits were declining. Japan and Western Europe, finally rebuilt after the Second World War, were formidable new competitors; the Arab oil shock of 1973 triggered the longest recession since the thirties. Moreover, the environmental and consumer-protection movements had hastened new regulations, on products ranging from flammable fabrics to cigarettes and bank loans.

Executives felt besieged. “They decided regulation was mostly to blame,” the historian Rick Perlstein writes in his forthcoming book, “Reaganland.” In Perlstein’s telling, “the denizens of America’s better boardrooms, who had once comported themselves with such ideological gentility, began behaving like the legendary Jacobins of the French Revolution. They declared war without compromise.” Back home in Greenwich, Middendorf—who went on to work in the Nixon, Ford, and Reagan Administrations—gloried in having vanquished the moderates. He wrote, “We created the conditions that put conservative Republicans back in power after more than thirty years of domination by the liberal eastern establishment—the so-called ‘Country Club’ Republicans.”
NYer
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coldjoint
 
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Sun 17 May, 2020 11:33 am
@hightor,
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Mention the rising number of deaths and you'll be called a "scare merchant". Nothin' to worry about folks, it's just the elderly and the infirm. Let's get the tattoo parlors open again.

Considering all those deaths from Covid 19 is a lie(as we never got an honest count) I would say you are more foolish than scary. But there is no doubt the media and some politicians want us curled up in a ball, at home of course, scared to go anywhere.
blatham
 
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Sun 17 May, 2020 11:45 am
A couple of days back, I posted one of a series of slides that Jay Rosen had used in a talk to the Reuters Institute in Oxford, UK. Here's another...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EYEmQJLWoAQOzUM?format=png&name=900x900

I've argued before that I'm deeply concerned by this institutional aspect of modern US culture/politics. Surely, most of us desire the noise and chaos and drama and ugliness of these last years to dissipate and for the screaming tawdriness to be replaced by something much more peaceful and honest and actually effective and helpful.

But are the big and the ambitious media entities wishing the same? Would peace and quiet and competence deliver the viewership levels (thus income) they now enjoy?

I wish I saw some way out of this but I don't.

coldjoint
 
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Sun 17 May, 2020 11:48 am
@blatham,
CBS was caught producing fake news about testing sites. Why would anyone care what they think?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Sun 17 May, 2020 11:52 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
Considering all those deaths from Covid 19 is a lie(as we never got an honest count) I would say you are more foolish than scary.
So the two times higher mortality than would be expected - compared to the same period as last year - are the reason of what? (In Lombardy it was even 300% higher.)
Gaming the data is hard, because the total number of deaths cannot be hidden.
blatham
 
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Sun 17 May, 2020 11:55 am
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David Fahrenthold
@Fahrenthold
3h
The state of Georgia made it look like its covid cases were going down ***by putting the dates out of order on its chart*** May 5 was followed by April 25, then back to May again, whatever made it look like a downslope.

Atlanta Journal-Constitution
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coldjoint
 
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Sun 17 May, 2020 11:56 am
@Walter Hinteler,
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Gaming the data is hard, because the total number of deaths cannot be hidden.

I never said the total would be hidden, I am saying the cause of death is not Covid 19 in the majority of deaths. Doctors all over the world have been telling us that. You choose to believe the media, I do not.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Sun 17 May, 2020 12:07 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
You choose to believe the media, I do not.
I don't. I choose the official data.

But you didn't answer my question
I wrote:
So the two times higher mortality than would be expected - compared to the same period as last year - are the reason of what? (In Lombardy it was even 300% higher.)
coldjoint
 
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Sun 17 May, 2020 12:18 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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But you didn't answer my question

I already said I do not trust the numbers, those numbers are included.
blatham
 
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Sun 17 May, 2020 12:19 pm
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James Fallows
@JamesFallows
· 3h
Lots of action from Twitter accounts:
a) created April 2020,
b) about 1000:1 ratio of tweets to followers,
and either
c) present themselves as leftists / POC who say Dems are the real problem, never vote for centrist Joe or
d) present selves as MAGA saying Biden is crook etc


I received a message here two weeks ago that X was now following me. The profile showed a young attractive female and included a description of "her" professional credentials. The English was odd. No posts from her. So I did a google image search and a search on the name. That turned up an array of other attempts to create an identity elsewhere and these all had the same image but with very different descriptions of the person's history and credentials. Again, usually with crappy English (likely via translation software).

I can't be the only one who's experienced this.
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coldjoint
 
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Sun 17 May, 2020 12:30 pm
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Never Trust the “Experts”

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Whatever you think of the Wuhan virus, it is certainly no more severe, and probably less severe, than the epidemics of 1957-58, which killed around 1.1 million in a much less populated world, and 1968-69, which killed 1 million worldwide and around 100,000 in the U.S. (the equivalent of 160,000 today). Those epidemics were bad. They killed people, mostly the elderly and the infirm. But the damage was not compounded by irrational government actions that devastated far more lives than were impacted by the diseases. It adds insult to injury that those government actions have been based, in large part, on incompetent work by “experts.”

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/05/never-trust-the-experts.php?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=sw&utm_campaign=sw
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Sun 17 May, 2020 12:43 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
I already said I do not trust the numbers, those numbers are included.
Those people didn't die? Why should someone invent ten thousands of persons?dead persons?

However, if "those numbers are included", what is the reason of a 200 to 300% 'surplus' of deaths (in various countries) compared to the expected number?
coldjoint
 
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Sun 17 May, 2020 12:44 pm
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Taibbi: Democrats Have Abandoned Civil Liberties

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Warrantless surveillance, multiple illegal leaks of classified information, a false statements charge constructed on the razor’s edge of Miranda, and the use of never-produced, secret counterintelligence evidence in a domestic criminal proceeding – this is the “rule of law” we’re being asked to cheer.

Russiagate cases were often two-level offenses: factually bogus or exaggerated, but also indicative of authoritarian practices. Democrats and Democrat-friendly pundits in the last four years have been consistently unable to register objections on either front.

Flynn’s case fit the pattern. We were told his plea was just the “tip of the iceberg” that would “take the trail of Russian collusion” to the “center of the plot,” i.e. Trump. It turned out he had no deeper story to tell. In fact, none of the people prosecutors tossed in jail to get at the Russian “plot” – some little more than bystanders – had anything to share.

A warning?
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Anyone who bothers to look back will find hints at how this program might have been misused. In late 2015, Obama officials bragged to the Wall Street Journal they’d made use of FISA surveillance involving “Jewish-American groups” as well as “U.S. lawmakers” in congress, all because they wanted to more effectively “counter” Israeli opposition to Obama’s nuclear deal with Iran. This is a long way from using surveillance to defuse terror plots or break up human trafficking rings.

I can understand not caring about the plight of Michael Flynn, but cases like this have turned erstwhile liberals – people who just a decade ago were marching in the streets over the civil liberties implications of Cheney’s War on Terror apparatus – into defenders of the spy state. Politicians and pundits across the last four years have rolled their eyes at attorney-client privilege, the presumption of innocence, the right to face one’s accuser, the right to counsel and a host of other issues, regularly denouncing civil rights worries as red-herring excuses for Trumpism.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/taibbi-democrats-have-abandoned-civil-liberties
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