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glitterbag
 
  1  
Fri 15 May, 2020 11:04 pm
He said frenzy,,hahahahahahahahahahaha....he wishes. Hardy har har
coldjoint
 
  -4  
Fri 15 May, 2020 11:07 pm
@glitterbag,
Quote:
He said frenzy,,hahahahahahahahahahaha....he wishes. Hardy har har

When you look at the number of thumbs down on my posts, I would call it frenzy, if not obsession.
bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Fri 15 May, 2020 11:09 pm
@glitterbag,
Only she's pretty funny for being a talking horse face. The twit is pretty funny for being a talking horse's patoot.

For a guy who's not worried about thumbs up, he's awfully worried about thumbs up!!
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Walter Hinteler
 
  5  
Fri 15 May, 2020 11:33 pm
State Department inspector general fired as Democrats decry ‘dangerous pattern of retaliation’

Steve A. Linick will be replaced by an ambassador with close ties to Vice President Mike Pence, the department said Friday night.
It has been reported that Linick was looking into whether Pompeo had misused a political appointee at the State Department to perform personal tasks for himself and his wife.

Quote:
President Trump said in a Friday letter to Congress that the inspector general no longer had his full confidence and would be removed within 30 days, the required period of advance notice to lawmakers, the Associated Press reported.

The firing came weeks after Trump removed Christi Grimm as principal deputy Inspector General for the Department of Health and Human Services, after Grimm’s office criticized the administration’s response to the coronavirus pandemic — detailing “severe shortages” of testing kits, delays in getting coronavirus results and “widespread shortages” of masks and other equipment at U.S. hospitals. Trump had lashed out publicly at Grimm.

Last month the president ousted intelligence community Inspector General Michael Atkinson, who handled the explosive whistleblower complaint that led to Trump’s impeachment. He also pushed out Glenn Fine, the chairman of the federal panel Congress created to oversee his administration’s management of the government’s $2 trillion coronavirus stimulus package.
coldjoint
 
  -4  
Fri 15 May, 2020 11:44 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
Steve A. Linick will be replaced by an ambassador with close ties to Vice President Mike Pence, the department said Friday night.
It has been reported that Linick was looking into whether Pompeo had misused a political appointee at the State Department to perform personal tasks for himself and his wife.

Oh my God someone picked up his dry cleaning? Trump needs to weed out every department he controls.

. It is most likely just another attempt to gum up the works and distract Trump. Apparently, he is tired of it
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glitterbag
 
  2  
Fri 15 May, 2020 11:45 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
I wonder if Bo Deitl is being considered for a position at State? That will class up that organization....gold chains and open collar shirts for everybody.

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farmerman
 
  5  
Sat 16 May, 2020 05:18 am
@coldjoint,
Quote:

No, I am pointing out a doctor who is questioning it.
BS , solid BSin your speech.
Fauci has refuted almost everything Plump has said ,and Plump is only patting himself on the back when we had maybe 3 local people with the disease. So he cancels "incoming travel from China" (Thats all he did and even that wasnt complete, there were several huuge loopholes) If you recall Plump was poo pooing the entire pandemic , then he said we have it totally under control . The rest is history.

Dr Bright has said everything factual because everything played out that way he stated. The US hs probably the worst response to thei pandemic of any of the countries.

Azar has said that "everything that Bright testified on has been done)>Thats total BS because, for example, the "anyone who wants a test can get a test" crap is still not there.

The GOP, a failed party, is only quietly underpinning Plumps fading desire to be reelected.

I really dont know why hed even want to be reelected, he stands for nothing, hes done only harm to this country, and he has the attention span of a Golden Retriever with ADD.



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hightor
 
  2  
Sat 16 May, 2020 05:38 am
Quote:

that is the goal of the lockdown - delaying spread, not elimination of the virus


Quote:

"Delay" is entirely the wrong word here. Decrease or minimize are more accurate.


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With no vaccine, social distancing and "lockdown" are intended to slow the inevitable spread of the virus, so as not to overwhelm hospitals.


From a review of Adam Kucharski’s The Rules of Contagion which shows the parallels between epidemics, recessions and fake news:
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Ronald Ross did astoundingly well for someone who never really wanted to be a doctor. The son of a general in the British Indian Army, Ross discovered on his extensive travels that malaria was transmitted not by “bad air” but by mosquitoes. The achievement earned him the 1902 Nobel Prize for Physiology or Medicine.

His other valuable insight was that mathematics played as big a role as biology in the pattern and spread of disease. “Epidemiology is in fact a mathematical subject,” Ross opined somewhat tetchily in the British Medical Journal in 1911, “and fewer absurd mistakes would be made regarding it… if more attention were given to the mathematical study of it.” This number-centric perspective has allowed scientists to conclude that, for example, we do not need to eliminate mosquitoes completely to eradicate malaria; and that immunising 95 per cent of the population will provide the “herd immunity” required to keep measles at bay.

Ross makes a deservedly early appearance in The Rules of Contagion, a timely analysis by Adam Kucharski of how diseases, and other phenomena such as financial panic, gun violence and social media trends, spread. “Recent efforts to treat violence as an infection – rather than simply as a result of ‘bad people’ – echo the rejection of disease caused by ‘bad air’ in the 1880s and 1890s,” he writes.

Kucharski, an associate professor at the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine, is ideally placed to enlighten readers: as a biostatistician, he has been involved in modelling disease outbreaks, such as Ebola and the 2015 Zika epidemic.

His book was almost signed off when the coronavirus (widely known as the Covid-19 virus) began as a series of epidemics in different countries. It is testament to how well Kucharski understands his topic that he chose not to attempt a panicked update. As I was writing this review, it transpired that China had excluded from some case numbers individuals who were infected but showed no symptoms. Any disease forecast depends on accurate and consistent reporting of such numbers.

It is particularly pleasing that Kucharski decided not to gamble on guessing the coronavirus picture correctly: his previous book, about the mathematics of wagers, was entitled The Perfect Bet. This follow-up work stands on its own as an impressively fluent, fascinating and accessible introduction to how epidemics, trends, behaviours and ideas start, spread – and end.

Disease outbreaks tend to follow a pattern: over time, the number of infections climbs, peaks and then declines. That is because a population contains three types of people: susceptible, infectious and recovered (the SIR model). As an infection sweeps through a population, it gradually infects the susceptible. As the pool of susceptible people shrinks and recoveries rise (with, it is presumed, immunity to reinfection), it becomes less likely that the few remaining susceptibles will encounter an infectious person. This is why a seemingly unstoppable epidemic can suddenly plateau and dwindle away, leaving some uninfected.

“According to the SIR model,” Kucharski explains, “outbreaks need three things to take off: a sufficiently infectious pathogen, plenty of interactions between different people, and enough of the population who are susceptible.” The shape and scale of the rise, peak and decline is exquisitely sensitive to those three SIR factors.

Infectiousness can be represented by the reproduction number R, which is the average number of people an infected person will transmit the virus to. An R below one means a disease won’t spread; above one, it will. The latest research puts the R for the Covid-19 virus at between two and three, which is comparable to that in the 2003 Sars epidemic.

Curbing social interactions can delay or interrupt rates of infection, staggering the burden on hospitals, testing services and health workers. That was the rationale for the Chinese government imposing draconian quarantines on entire cities in Hubei province. It is also the logic behind “social distancing” measures, such as working from home and closing schools.

As for susceptibility, everyone must be assumed vulnerable to this novel virus, despite most suffering only mild symptoms. Hence the global concern: a death rate of even a fraction of a per cent equates to millions dying worldwide. But there is a way to cut susceptibility – by vaccinating. Reuters reports that a dozen drug companies are developing vaccines or antivirals for Covid-19.

newstatesman

Until a vaccine is developed and tested, whether people who've contracted the virus and recover develop some sort of immunity is going to be key.
izzythepush
 
  2  
Sat 16 May, 2020 06:00 am
@hightor,
Immunity is not a given. Some diseases, like chicken pox, do give immunity to those who’ve had it. Others don’t, look at the common cold, and the common cold is a coronavirus.
hightor
 
  2  
Sat 16 May, 2020 06:06 am
@izzythepush,
Yeah, that's why I said "whether". It seems as that a lot of people are counting on it but I've heard accounts of people contracting the disease after they'd supposedly "recovered". I know that with influenza many people have a "partial immunity" which doesn't prevent them from contracting the disease but protects them from the worst effects. This is why we're encouraged to get flu shots every year, even though the vaccine may have been developed for a different strain.
izzythepush
 
  3  
Sat 16 May, 2020 06:25 am
@hightor,
Over here some of those recovered are donating plasma to help those in intensive, apparently it has a dramatic effect.
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Builder
 
  -3  
Sat 16 May, 2020 06:52 am
@coldjoint,
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When you look at the number of thumbs down on my posts, I would call it frenzy, if not obsession.


It's literally panic stations in the DNC camp hereabouts.

The Flynn issue is playing heavily on their minds.
MontereyJack
 
  1  
Sat 16 May, 2020 06:57 am
@Builder,
No it's not. It's playing as Trumpian politics as usual and barr as his soulless lackey. even more determination to vote the whole venal crew out in nov.
Builder
 
  -2  
Sat 16 May, 2020 07:06 am
@MontereyJack,
With creepy Joe at the "wheel"?

That scenario doesn't fill me with confidence of any shade of grey.

Is there nobody in a nation of 337 million souls (minus Covid deaths) to toe the line, and actually get the show on the road?
bobsal u1553115
 
  5  
Sat 16 May, 2020 07:13 am
@Builder,
Quote:
The Flynn issue


Speaking of which ...

Michael Flynn isn't a martyr. He's a crook and a crackpot.
For anyone with a memory that stretches all the way back to 2016, it is positively bizarre to see Republicans suddenly claiming that Michael Flynn, President Trump’s former national security adviser, is a martyr. It’s obvious why and how they’re doing it: In an effort to distract from Trump’s spectacular failure on the coronavirus pandemic, they are attempting to create a new fake “scandal” that will send us all down an endless rabbit hole chasing absurd lies and conspiracy theories.

But Michael Flynn? He’s the one they want to portray as a victim? What’s next — Jeffrey Epstein was framed? Bernie Madoff was a humanitarian? Al Capone was misunderstood?

Here’s the truth: Flynn should never have been allowed within 10 miles of the White House. He was a dangerous, dishonest and shady operator who was also kind of a loon. For a moment, it appeared that everyone in the Trump administration realized it, which was why he was booted from his position as national security adviser after only 24 days on the job.

Yet now they’re treating him like a hero.

So let’s quickly review who Flynn was:

o let’s quickly review who Flynn was:

In 2014, Flynn was forced out of his position as director of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA). As Colin Powell later described it in a leaked email, Flynn was “Abusive with staff, didn’t listen, worked against policy, bad management, etc. He has been and was right-wing nutty [ever] since.

As The Post reported, “Former subordinates at the DIA said Flynn was so prone to dubious pronouncements that senior aides coined a term — ‘Flynn facts’ — for assertions that seemed questionable or inaccurate.”

The New York Times reported that some insiders “described him as a Captain Queeg-like character, paranoid that his staff members were undercutting him and credulous of conspiracy theories.”

Flynn insisted that he was removed not for his erratic mismanagement but because his superiors didn’t agree with his warnings about the danger of radical Islam. He later gave speeches claiming that Democrats were installing Sharia law at the state and local level.

Flynn once tweeted that “Fear of Muslims is RATIONAL.” He has said Islam is “a malignant cancer” that “hides behind this notion of it being a religion.”

Flynn used his social media accounts to spread lunatic conspiracy theories that Hillary Clinton was involved in a child sex-trafficking, that President Barack Obama was a “jihadi,” that Clinton’s campaign manager conducted occult rituals, and that the United Nations was plotting to install a one-world government.

Flynn was paid $45,000 to appear at a 2015 gala in celebration of Russian propaganda network RT (he sat at Vladimir Putin’s table during the dinner). Former senior military officials are supposed to receive Pentagon permission before accepting such payments; Flynn apparently did not.

While working as an adviser to the Trump campaign in 2016, Flynn was also secretly working on behalf of the Turkish government, being paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to advocate Turkey’s interests. This consisted, in large part, of seeking to discredit Fethullah Gulen, a dissident Turkish cleric now living in the United States. On Election Day in 2016, Flynn wrote an op-ed for the Hill blasting Gulen and praising Turkey, but did not disclose that he was being paid to do so.

Flynn also failed to register as a foreign agent as required by law, only doing so retroactively after he was fired as national security adviser in 2017.

In 2015, Flynn was paid by an American company seeking to partner with Russian interests to build nuclear power plants in the Middle East; in his security clearance documents, he failed to disclose a trip he took to work on the plan. In his brief time as national security adviser, he then promoted the plan inside the White House.

During the transition after the 2016 election, Flynn maneuvered to delay a U.S. military operation against the Islamic State, an operation Turkey opposed because it involved a partnership between the U.S. and Kurdish forces.

When Obama and Trump met in the Oval Office days after the election, Obama warned the president-elect that giving Flynn a high-ranking job in the administration was a terrible idea, which turned out to be right. Trump didn’t listen.

Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about his conversations with the Russian ambassador, during which Flynn negotiated with the ambassador over sanctions the Obama administration had imposed as punishment for Russian interference in the 2016 election.

The fact that Attorney General William P. Barr made an extraordinary and unprecedented effort to drop the case after Flynn pleaded guilty does not change the fact that Flynn lied to the FBI, and also lied to Vice President Pence about his conversations with Russian officials, leading Pence to then repeat Flynn’s lie on television.

According to then-White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus, when he told Trump about Flynn’s lies, Trump replied, “Not again, this guy, this stuff.” Those lies were the reason Trump gave for firing him.

Trump has always gathered around him the most morally repugnant people he could find, an endless collection of grifters, liars and thieves. Flynn fit right in, even if he was discarded when he became an embarrassment.

But the real problem is that he was ever given a position of responsibility in the first place. As you watch Republicans make the ludicrous claim that he’s the victim of an anti-Trump conspiracy, keep that in mind.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/05/15/michael-flynn-isnt-martyr-hes-crook-crackpot/
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farmerman
 
  6  
Sat 16 May, 2020 07:21 am
@Builder,
I think we're so inured at Trumps lies, and his total incompetence in just about verything hes ever done, so that anything about OBAMAGATE has already been taken with a huge grain of seasalt by the journalists and other presscore. Trump been constantly barraged with questions about his coined term "Obamagate"
"Well, what is the crime"?? all hes answered is with a kind of wimpy "YOU KNOW"

and Barr is just another enabler for this very sickass excuse for a president.

I think this November the key swing states will be brought back into common sense voting . This will help rerun the "Grand Presidential voting loophole" which isnt even something the constitution instituted.

hightor
 
  5  
Sat 16 May, 2020 07:22 am
A Sitting President, Riling the Nation During a Crisis
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Builder
 
  -4  
Sat 16 May, 2020 07:51 am
@farmerman,
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I think we're so inured at Trumps lies


You're a broken record at this point in time.

I don't like your president. I do know what happened when he got voted in.

If you think creepy Joe is going to turn the tables, think again.
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revelette3
 
  2  
Sat 16 May, 2020 08:31 am
@Walter Hinteler,
I have turned into a total cynic, but the Democrats should just save their breath and energy of the crises on hand. Trump is Trump; he is going to keep doing things like that and getting away with it. Right now our only hope for the country is to actually vote him out along with all his enabling administration and spineless Republicans in the Senate. If we only get one out two, our country has a chance of slowing the downward slide into a failed state we are presently on.
 

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