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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
Frugal1
 
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Wed 7 Dec, 2016 07:18 am
Cupcakes & Snowflakes have the panties in a bunch over Trump being named Person of the Year.
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blatham
 
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Wed 7 Dec, 2016 07:25 am
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Thousands of Montana snow geese die a horrible death after landing in toxic, acid mine pit
WP headline

The only reason I bring this up here is to point out the hilarious pro-petrochemical talking point that wind turbines chop cute little birdies to death. That industry has, of course, always been deeply concerned with environmental issues and have never needed governmental regulations in that regard because of the resident valuation of the common good and brotherhood with the natural world.

Some relevant comparative data can be found here I tought I taw a puddytat
giujohn
 
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Wed 7 Dec, 2016 07:30 am
@blatham,
Hey wait a minute there liberal... Are you making fun of people who have a speech impediment? That's not very politically correct of you.

PC police...PC police never a cop around when you need one.
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layman
 
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Wed 7 Dec, 2016 07:33 am
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Donald Trump is apparently responsible for everything that goes wrong in people’s lives, including the heartbreak of psoriasis....Yes, it seems there’s a fertile media market for people speaking out about how Trump’s election has ruined their lives, is ruining the country, and possibly could ruin western civilization. Forget about Taiwan or Carrier or flag-burning, all they have to do is put together a personal rant to win their 15 seconds of fame. Editors are, well, rather receptive.

...The Washington Post saw fit to give the Missoula, Mont. woman a platform to spew about the president-elect ... though what she’s saying isn’t exactly clear.Poor Stephanie is depressed, so she doesn’t feel like dating, and it’s all Trump’s fault for messing things up. Sad!

This whining by Trump-haters is becoming a market niche. And it’s getting old.


BIG news, sho nuff.
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revelette1
 
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Wed 7 Dec, 2016 07:34 am
Donald Trump requires all transition staff and volunteers to sign nondisclosure agreements

Everyone who works or volunteers on President-elect Donald Trump's transition team has to sign a nondisclosure agreement, Politico reported on Tuesday, after obtaining a copy of the agreement.

The document reportedly bars all members of the transition team from disclosing policy briefings, personnel information, budgets, contracts, draft research papers, donor information, or any other information about major parts of transition business.

Transition team members are also ordered to inform on any colleges they suspect of leaking information, and anyone found violating the clause is subject to legal orders and job termination.

Trump is famous for using NDAs in his business and even private life, and transparency watchdog groups are concerned that if he carries this practice to the White House — as he has suggested he might for high-ranking appointees — it will obfuscate what's happening in Trump's executive branch.

But the transition NDA has at least one omission from Trump's previous nondisclosure agreements: There is apparently no "disparagement" clause. So if you want to know what is going on inside Donald Trump's presidential transition, you're probably out of luck — but the worst thing that can legally happen to a transition staffer who insults Trump is that he or she likely won't get a job in the Trump White House.
blatham
 
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Wed 7 Dec, 2016 07:37 am
As I've been saying, the Trump administration is now deeply ensconced in the Koch operations because those operations were critically important in turnout and in filling his transition team because they sit at the center of the modern GOP
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Despite deciding not to back Donald Trump financially with ads during the presidential election, the sprawling donor and advocacy network led by the multibillionaire Koch brothers is emerging as a winner in the transition.

Longtime ally Mike Pence is leading the transition team, and several veteran Koch network donors, operatives and political allies are poised to join the Trump administration when the new president takes office in January.

While Charles Koch and some network officials had tough words for Trump for some of his incendiary campaign rhetoric and positions this year, several mega-donors who back Koch-linked advocacy groups poured millions into Super Pacs and other fundraising efforts to boost Trump, and some of these donors have not been shy about flexing their muscles during the transition.
bait and switch central
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Frugal1
 
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Wed 7 Dec, 2016 07:41 am
@revelette1,
Excellent!
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Frugal1
 
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Wed 7 Dec, 2016 07:44 am
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzAxN8oWQAA-B1X.jpg:large
layman
 
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Wed 7 Dec, 2016 07:52 am
@Frugal1,
I think you got it backwards, Frug.

NOBODY voted for Obama just because he was black, but EVERYBODY who voted against him did so just because he was black.

Just ask any cheese-eater, eh?
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giujohn
 
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Wed 7 Dec, 2016 07:52 am
@Frugal1,
Those are the facts and they are Undisputed.
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blatham
 
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Wed 7 Dec, 2016 08:08 am
I love this one.
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Michael Flynn, 33, left the US president-elect's transition team on Tuesday following his tweets about the so-called Pizzagate fake news story.

His father, Michael Flynn Snr, Mr Trump's pick to be US national security adviser, has also shared fake news.
Earl

Like the Trump crowd didn't know this earlier? A danged vetting oversight? Hardly, as Bannon's Breitbart site was complicit. What changed is that attention to this issue from reporters made the guy's role a significant PR problem.

Flynn senior is no less of a lunatic but he's now so tight with (and identified with) Trump - The Rogue Strongman Swamp Drainer I Know More Than The Generals thing that this facade move of booting the son (for how long?) would have been the best-seeming option.

Things will get much crazier. This is all just starting.
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blatham
 
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Wed 7 Dec, 2016 08:24 am
From our award-winning Patriots Loving America series.
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President-elect Donald Trump is freshly casting doubt on the idea that Russia was behind the election-related hacks into Democratic entities, and said the conclusion by U.S. agencies that the Kremlin paid a role was politically driven.

“I don’t believe it. I don’t believe they interfered,” Trump said in an interview with Time magazine, which named him person of the year.
I looked into Putin's heart
Because Trump has like talked with Vladimir on the phone in the lobby of the Trump Plaza and Vlad said, "No way we'd do that stuff, Don. Your intel guys are corrupt and you know how they love Obama and hate you. How could anyone hate you?!"
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Frugal1
 
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Wed 7 Dec, 2016 08:26 am
https://oregon.gop/sites/default/files/attachments/Trump-Pence-congrads-750x400.jpg
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Frugal1
 
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Wed 7 Dec, 2016 08:41 am
Trump will inherent a terrible, 0bama caused situation.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/us-economy-no-recovery-wages-in-reverse/article/2608995#
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blatham
 
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Wed 7 Dec, 2016 09:00 am
From Jet Heer. He's a really smart fellow. Dig up any audio file of him in discussion and you'll see what I mean.
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Two facts stand out about Donald Trump’s remarkable ascension to the presidency. First, no presidential candidate—not even Barry Goldwater or George McGovern—faced so much internal opposition from his own party, with many major figures saying Trump was manifestly unfit for office. Second, that opposition, which initially seemed so fierce, quickly diminished to almost nothing. Trump was able to consolidate enough of the Republican vote to win an Electoral College victory, and from there any lingering dissent has been almost wholly stamped out.

...The party that capitulated to Trump is going to keep on waving the white flag. Never Trump was a popular slogan in 2016, but the reality of the Republican Party is now Forever Trump.

It’s easy to find extenuating justifications for the cravenness of the GOP. It’s rooted in an age of partisan polarization, as well as the dream of the likes of Paul Ryan of having a unitary government that could fulfill long-deferred goals of the conservative movement. As astute observers like Michael Grunwald note, the fanatical partisanship of the GOP, already evident in the way Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell implemented a policy of absolute rejectionism during the Obama administration, has in fact turned out to be politically smart: The GOP thwarted Barack Obama on many fronts and can now roll back his presidency.

Yet politics can never be fully divorced from morality. In order to achieve their victory, Republican leaders handed their party over to Donald Trump, a racist who boasted of sexually assaulting women, an advocate of torture and ethnic bigotry, a man in every way unfit for high office. Once Trump became the Republican nominee, the possibility of him becoming president was real and very few in his party tried to stop him. Whatever happens in the Trump era won’t just be his fault, but will now taint the entire party. That’s the true price of Republican capitulation.
My god. Whatever you do, don't click here
Every thing Jet says here is right but I have a slightly different take on one aspect. Trump certainly is changing the GOP in some ways, not least being this robust denial of any need to be truthful in claims and the further degradation of governing norms. But the modern GOP has been now taken over by the Koch crowd and that's where a lot of the real institutional power of the party now resides. Paul Ryan is as secure in his position as anyone in this present arrangement and that's because nobody better represents the Koch agenda than Ryan. If Trump was stupid enough to try and take Ryan out, he wouldn't survive. Pence, of course, is another Koch man.

So it's a two way street. While Trump is changing the party in important ways (as Heer suggests) Trump himself is profoundly restricted in what he can do because he needs the power base that the Koch crowd represents.
layman
 
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Wed 7 Dec, 2016 09:04 am
@blatham,
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.The party that capitulated to Trump is going to keep on waving the white flag. Never Trump was a popular slogan in 2016, but the reality of the Republican Party is now Forever Trump.


Exactly!

Be afraid, cheese-eaters.

VERY afraid.

You're toast.
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tony5732
 
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Wed 7 Dec, 2016 09:41 am
@cicerone imposter,
I really don't think Trump was ever going to do the wall thing. He just needed hillbilly support because Hillary had minority support.
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blatham
 
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Wed 7 Dec, 2016 09:41 am
This is encouraging. Maybe Schumer and Pelosi et al can carry through with Dems whose seats will be vulnerable and do this right.
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The emerging GOP plan to repeal Obamacare on a delayed schedule — and then maybe kinda sorta replace it later — has raised a big question: Will Democrats help Republicans pass a replacement that is far less generous and comprehensive than the health law is, allowing Republicans an escape from the political fallout from repeal?

In an interview with me, Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer answered this question with a resounding No. Under no circumstances, he vowed, would Democrats throw Republicans such a political lifeline.

“We’re not going to do a replacement,” Schumer said of the Senate Democratic caucus. “If they repeal without a replacement, they will own it. Democrats will not then step up to the plate and come up with a half-baked solution that we will partially own. It’s all theirs.”
a plum of an idea
giujohn
 
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Wed 7 Dec, 2016 09:46 am
@Frugal1,
Frugal1 wrote:

https://tribwxin.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/time-trump-fox59.jpg


YEA!... all right now let's see if we can get him a Nobel Prize.
Frugal1
 
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Wed 7 Dec, 2016 09:52 am
@giujohn,
Hillary came in second place, well behind Trump.
She has asked Jill Stein to request a recount.
 

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