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Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Wed 13 May, 2020 06:26 am
@hightor,
New US coronavirus hotspots appear in Republican heartlands
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• Surge in infections in red state towns and rural communities
• Rise in cases contradicts Trump assertion of rapid decline


New coronavirus hotspots are emerging in Republican heartland communities across multiple states, contradicting Donald Trump’s claims that infection rates are declining across the nation.

At a fraught press briefing on Monday, the president declared: “All throughout the country, the numbers are coming down rapidly.”

Yet county-specific figures show a surge in infection rates in towns and rural communities in red states such as Texas, Tennessee, Alabama, Kentucky and North and South Dakota, according to data tracking by the New York Times.

Trump’s claim is also contradicted by data used by the White House’s own pandemic taskforce to track new and emerging hotspots.
[...]
Many of the new emerging hotspots, both rural and urban, are in states where governors refused to issue stay-at-home orders, or are following Trump’s advice to relax lockdown restrictions despite public health warnings about the dangers of doing so too soon.

bobsal u1553115
 
  -1  
Wed 13 May, 2020 07:03 am
@FreedomEyeLove,
Don't start crying! Why do you think he was booted? I know ... he violated ToS and got booted for posting crap. Right?
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bobsal u1553115
 
  -1  
Wed 13 May, 2020 07:08 am
@glitterbag,
You know if I divulge that the NWO will send a MIB and I'll end up DOA, just another crisis actor marked down as a faceless faux Covid19 statistic.

I've said too much already. Tell 'Mother' "its getting cold".
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blatham
 
  -1  
Wed 13 May, 2020 07:21 am
@ehBeth,
Yes. At the outset, because of we're on the Pacific rim and have a very high Asian population with lots of travel back and forth (not to mention the Washington state hotspot) I figured we were going to get nailed. But I guess the infections from Europe were the much larger problem.
blatham
 
  -1  
Wed 13 May, 2020 07:28 am
@hightor,
Quote:
90% of victims over 70

I actually haven't been following the European news closely. Had no idea this was the situation in Sweden.
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hightor
 
  1  
Wed 13 May, 2020 07:28 am
Trump Has Lost the Plot

The president is talking about things most Americans can’t comprehend, let alone care about.

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A couple of years ago, BuzzFeed asked a former White House official to explain the logic behind some bizarre Trump action. The official responded with one of the master quotes of the Trump era.

President Trump, the official said, is not playing “the sort of three-dimensional chess people ascribe to decisions like this. More often than not he’s just eating the pieces.”

Over Mother’s Day and then through Monday—and who knows, perhaps continuing today—Trump has fired off hundreds of rounds of weapons-grade lunacy on Twitter. When Trump does this kind of thing, many are ready with an explanation: He’s rallying his base; he’s distracting his critics; he’s challenging the existence of reality itself.

(...)

theatlantic/frum
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Wed 13 May, 2020 07:28 am
@glitterbag,
Funny how she wants to abridge my Constitutional rights to keep the imaginary ones she thinks she has.

There's no Constitutional right to break laws. She has a Constitutional right to test laws - after all that Constitution bans prior restraint, but its a double responsibility. If one tests a law and the challenge is rejected - one has to accept the consequence, like getting kicked off YouTube. "Free Speech" challenges to YouTubes policy have been made before and they have never gotten anywhere, ever. Whinging about it is childish and stupid.

Now if YouTube prior to his vilation had refused to allow him to post claiming they knew he was going to break rules then he'd have had a clear cut case of prior restraint or a violation of equal access.

They want to be included, but they want to cut us out. They want super rights and they want us without them. Sounds like a clear cut case of fascism to me. They want carry guns and they want to keep me from wearing a mask and work in conditions to give me Covid19. Sounds like classism to me.

What they don't get is the Constitution is about making and enforcing laws, too. That the purpose is to protect everybody. That public safety and health trumps the actions of the individual when the individual becomes a danger to public health and safety.
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izzythepush
 
  0  
Wed 13 May, 2020 07:32 am
@glitterbag,
Any of your security contacts interested in a ‘legal’ immigrant currently working for a hostile foreign power?

Deport the sod back to Russia.
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blatham
 
  0  
Wed 13 May, 2020 07:32 am
Credit where due. I confess I did not expect this from her.
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Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) defended White House task force member Dr. Anthony Fauci on Tuesday night as he comes under fire from pro-Trump conservatives for speaking out against reopening the U.S. at this stage of the COVID-19 outbreak, as President Donald Trump has advocated.


Cheney, a member of GOP leadership as House Republican Conference chair, called Fauci “one of the finest public servants we have ever had” via Twitter.

“He is not a partisan. His only interest is saving lives,” the GOP leader tweeted. “We need his expertise and his judgment to defeat this virus.”

“All Americans should be thanking him. Every day,” she continued.
TPM
snood
 
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Wed 13 May, 2020 07:34 am
@blatham,
I know! I tweeted her “Who are you and what have you done with Liz Cheney?”
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Setanta
 
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Wed 13 May, 2020 07:53 am
@glitterbag,
I'm about 99% certain now that FEL is actually an FSB troll from the St. Petersburg Internet Research Agency (that one cracks me up!). For example, his latest rant about someone being booted off Youtube--the first amendment protects your free speech in public places. It doesn't give you carte blanche on private venues, such as Youtube, or Able2Know for that matter. FEL has already admitted to being an immigrant in another thread.
blatham
 
  -1  
Wed 13 May, 2020 08:11 am
https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1260241854811058187/zsSdMey5?format=jpg&name=900x900

Of course the dipshit on the right is now rising from the ooze again.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  -1  
Wed 13 May, 2020 08:15 am
@Setanta,
Somehow this comes to mind ...

“In my career I've found few people are truly evil, most are just too far disconnected from the effects of their actions,” he wrote. “Until someone reconnects them.”
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hightor
 
  3  
Wed 13 May, 2020 08:21 am
Donald Trump Has No Plan

Thousands are dying each week, the economy is cratering, and the president is at a total loss.

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It’s been 111 days since the first reported case of the coronavirus in the United States. It’s been 57 days since President Trump issued social-distancing guidelines, and 12 days since they expired.

Yet the Trump administration still has no plan for dealing with the global pandemic or its fallout. The president has cast doubt on the need for a vaccine or expanded testing. He has no evident plan for contact tracing. He has no treatment ideas beyond the drug remdesivir, since Trump’s marketing campaign for hydroxychloroquine ended in disaster. And, facing the worst economy since the Great Depression, the White House has no plan for that, either, beyond a quixotic hope that consumer demand will snap back as soon as businesses reopen.

Echoing his breezy language in the earliest days of the pandemic, Trump has in recent days returned to a blithe faith that the disease will simply disappear of its own accord, without a major government response.

“I feel about vaccines like I feel about tests: This is going to go away without a vaccine,” Trump said Friday. “It’s going to go away, and we’re not going to see it again, hopefully, after a period of time.”

He added: “They say it’s going to go—that doesn’t mean this year—doesn’t mean it’s going to be gone, frankly, by fall or after the fall. But eventually it’s going to go away. The question is, will we need a vaccine? At some point it’s going to probably go away by itself. If we had a vaccine that would be very helpful.”

As for the cratering economy, which on Friday produced the worst jobs numbers on record, Trump shrugged. “We’re in no rush, we’re in no rush,” he said.

The president’s shiftlessness in the face of the greatest crisis of his presidency, and the greatest political threat during it, is confounding. Of course, Trump has faced mortal political threats before; less than five months ago, he became only the third president in American history to be impeached. He’s shown a remarkable ability to survive damaging situations. And his plans have often been derided by skeptics as unwise, unrealistic, or simplistic. This situation is different, though: Grappling with a multifront crisis, Trump seems to have no plan at all.

Let’s begin with efforts against the illness itself. The 45 days during which Trump recommended social distancing were meant to prevent hospitals from being swamped with patients, and give the government time to devise more effective measures. But when that period ended at the end of April, Trump simply let his recommendations lapse, opting not to extend them in favor of vague calls for reopening the economy.

Those six weeks didn’t actually buy the country much time, because the White House wasted them. With New York City removed from the numbers, the national curve hasn’t flattened at all. States continue to fend for themselves on tests and personal protective equipment. Trump held a White House event yesterday to tout growth in testing in the U.S., but the president’s rhetoric was misleading. The U.S. does not, as he claimed, lead the world in testing, on a per capita basis. He also continues to compare the U.S. rate favorably to South Korea’s, eliding that South Korea was able to control its outbreak sooner by testing faster, and thereby reducing its need for testing.

As my colleague Robinson Meyer has reported, based on figures in the COVID Tracking Project, which is housed at The Atlantic, the U.S. has increased testing but still needs to expand it dramatically to match expert recommendations. “To an almost astonishing degree, the U.S. has no national plan for achieving this goal,” Meyer writes. “There is no effort at the federal level that has mustered anything like the funding, coordination, or real resources that experts across the political spectrum say is needed to safely reopen the country.”

One possible problem is that to muster the kind of government effort required to catch up, Trump might have to acknowledge that his various premature “Mission accomplished” announcements were grievously wrong. Instead, he has repeated them. “We have met the moment. And we have prevailed,” he said yesterday.

Having declared victory, Trump has begun calling for the country to reopen. He is correct to note that social distancing has knocked the American economy flat, but once again, he has no plan for how the reopening should occur. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention did have a plan—but as the Associated Press first reported, the White House quashed it, telling the CDC its guidelines would never “see the light of day,” then lied about the process by which they were killed.

In any case, the White House push to reopen is based on a serious misunderstanding of the causes of the economic damage. In Trump’s imagination, which seems fired largely by the rowdy and often heavily armed—but highly unrepresentative—protesters gathering in state capitols, the problem is that governors and mayors have tyrannically consigned brave American “warriors” to their homes, when in fact the populace wants to be going about its business of haircuts and meals out and gym sessions as though there weren’t a deadly pandemic sweeping the country.

This is simply wrong. Commerce has ground to a halt because many Americans have decided they don’t want to risk infecting themselves or their family, regardless of whether there are formal government policies instructing or mandating that they stay home. As Jordan Weissmann (drawing on OpenTable data) points out, restaurants in states that have lifted stay-at-home orders have seen a tiny increase in attendance, but nowhere near enough to save those restaurants, much less float the economy. Nate Silver notes that states that have opened up aren’t seeing significantly more movement than those that haven’t.

In short, Trump has placed most of his energy behind a vain hope, without any plan to accomplish reopening even if it were plausible. That has distracted his administration from any other efforts to boost the economy for what is likely to be a very long slog. The first three phases of stimulus have been, despite some complaints, positive measures, but they’re also clearly insufficient; Friday’s epochally bad jobs report came despite the billions Washington has already spent.

The government will need to spend much more to prop up the economy. This should be no problem, at least as a matter of politics. Democrats are already clamoring for more spending, and there’s little chance Republicans would balk en masse if Trump demanded a new bill. Some members of the administration acknowledge the seriousness of the problem. The White House economic adviser Kevin Hassett on Sunday forecast unemployment rates topping 20 percent, though he said he hoped policies so far had bought the White House time.

But others are inexplicably sanguine. Larry Kudlow, who incapably played an economist on television before being hired as the director of the National Economic Council, dismissed any need for new spending anytime soon. “We put all this money in, which is fine,” he said Friday at the White House. “It’s well worth it. Let’s see what happens. As we move into the reopening phase this month, maybe spill over to June, let’s have a look at it before we decide who, what, where, when.”

Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, who worked well with Democrats on earlier phases of stimulus and has few clear ideological precommitments, would be a logical champion for more spending, but he appeared to remain fixated on reopening during a Sunday interview on Fox News.

Meanwhile, a faction of fiscal conservatives, reportedly led by new White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows and budget chief Russ Vought, has suddenly discovered the concern for deficits that Republicans displayed throughout the Obama presidency and abandoned completely when Trump became president. They’ve returned to the theme at the worst possible time, both economically and politically. Austerity will only further crush the economy, and a cratering economy will make Trump’s reelection tougher.

Surveying the situation, Eric Levitz concludes that Republicans are simply “not cynical enough” to recognize the opportunity posed by stimulus spending: “For Republicans, some things are more important than winning elections—and, apparently, denying government assistance to desperate workers and their underfed children is one of them.”


That charge might be leveled at fiscal conservatives, as inconstant in their creed as they may be, but it is clearly not true of Trump. The president has no particular attachment to desperate workers or underfed children, as he has demonstrated throughout his life and now in his time as president. But he also has no attachment to fiscal conservatism either, nor will he be out-cynic’ed. For Trump, as for Vince Lombardi, winning isn’t everything; it’s the only thing.

Even with a clear imperative to spend, Democrats eager to work with him, and little need for wonky detail—all he has to do is sign a huge check—Trump hasn’t managed to commit to the most straightforward thing he can do to boost the economy and therefore his own reelection chances.

This isn’t because Trump is confident about November. White House reporters say the president is privately “glum and shell-shocked by his declining popularity.” His public behavior betrays the stress. He tweeted incessantly and manically on Sunday, then stormed out of a press conference yesterday after a jarring, testy exchange with reporters. He has begun a bizarre bombardment of his predecessor, Barack Obama, part of an unending search for villains. Trump is also deeply engaged in other efforts to boost his chances, including a campaign against voting by mail—a step many experts say is necessary to protect voters’ health, but which he has concluded (without much evidence) will help Democrats in November.

So much of Trump’s handling of the coronavirus was easily foretold. Experts had warned for years of a global pandemic. The president is obviously overmatched in his job. Trump badly botched the response to previous natural disasters, most prominently Hurricane Maria in Puerto Rico, and pundits had predicted that he would stumble worse when faced with a larger test. His chaotic style of governance, lack of faith in his advisers, and inability to maintain his attention were all manifest before the coronavirus, and are on vivid display now. He has never been interested in the actual work of policy. None of this should have been a surprise to anyone paying attention for the past three years.

But through it all, Trump displayed a clear will to win, and a keen instinct for what it took to do that. This makes his failure to come up with even a semblance of a plan—good, bad, or unclear—a true mystery. Yesterday, the U.S. death toll crossed 81,000, a mark Trump had previously said it would never touch. More recently, he’s offered 100,000 as a likely figure. Will the president have a plan for the pandemic by then? At the moment, he’s in no rush.

theatlantic/graham
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blatham
 
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Wed 13 May, 2020 08:50 am
Kushner, Law Aside, Doesn’t Rule Out Delaying 2020 Election

He's tried to pull that back but what he said should catch everyone's attention
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I’m not sure I can commit one way or the other
blatham
 
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Wed 13 May, 2020 09:34 am
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7m14Y5VMAEFuTa?format=jpg&name=small

This isn't a perfect match for what we're seeing now but it points to how populations or significant sectors of populations, who commonly think about themselves via national myth stories, will miss comprehending their actual situation.
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revelette3
 
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Wed 13 May, 2020 10:02 am
@Walter Hinteler,
One thing is that even in Trump's heartlands and red states, they know when they are getting sick.

It is just that the loudmouths are the only ones seen or heard from in those states. Even though in KY we currently have a democrat governor, my state is a red state and has been I guess since the civil rights era.

A lot of local counties are difficult to define. About thirty years ago when coal was big, everyone registered democrat because of unions to coal mines and voted locally for democrats but voted republican for federal elections. I have noticed some positive changes in KY which I hope and pray carries out to the 2020 presidential election.

Speaking of which, something is in the works which might affect elections in closely run states. (if we have one)

Supreme Court begins hearing presidential Electoral College dispute
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glitterbag
 
  1  
Wed 13 May, 2020 10:11 am
@blatham,
What a bunch of nervy a$$holes. They disgust me.
bobsal u1553115
 
  0  
Wed 13 May, 2020 10:18 am
Howard Stern Says Trump 'Despises' His Voters and 'I Hate You for Voting for Him'
By Emma Nolan On 5/13/20 at 5:12 AM EDT

Howard Stern On Former Radio Show Guest Donald Trump: 'I Don’t Think He Wanted To Be The President'

Howard Stern is questioning why people vote for Donald Trump, claiming the president is "disgusted" by his biggest supporters.

The radio host, 66, further admonished Trump voters, who he says "lack intelligence."

Speaking on his SiriusXM show Tuesday, Stern said: "The oddity in all of this is the people Trump despises most, love him the most. "The people who are voting for Trump for the most part... he wouldn't even let them in a f***ing hotel.

"He'd be disgusted by them. Go to Mar-a-Lago, see if there's any people who look like you," he said. "I'm talking to you in the audience. The Trump voter who idolizes the guy, he despises you."

Stern, who endorsed Trump's Democratic rival Hillary Clinton in the 2016 presidential election, claimed Trump loves adulation from celebrities and the rich and famous—not the masses who vote for him, likening the disparity to an episode of The Twilight Zone.
Howard Stern

The president was a one-time friend of Stern's and made many appearances on his show over the years. The DJ maintains he doesn't actually "hate Donald."

"I don't hate Donald," Stern said. "I hate you for voting for him, for not having intelligence. For not being able to see what's going on with the coronavirus, for not being able to see what the justice department is doing. I hate you, I don't want you here."

Much like his own exploration into the world of politics back in 1994, when Stern ran in the New York gubernatorial election, the radio host believes Trump is not up to the job.

"I do think it would be extremely patriotic of Donald to say, 'I'm in over my head and I don't want to be president anymore,'" Stern said, but conceded this is unlikely to happen.


https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/I-will-not-comply-rally-Facebook-800x430.png

Do you think any of these "good" guys would be welcomed at Mar-a-Lago, Doral ...
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hightor
 
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Wed 13 May, 2020 10:43 am
This is an excerpt from Colin Woodard's American Nations (2011) which is one of the best analyses of North American politics I've ever seen. It's very readable and, for understanding our current flirtation with dystopia, indispensable.
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But one thing is certain: if Americans seriously want the United States to exist in something like its current form, they had best respect the fundamental tenets of our unlikely union. It cannot survive if we end the separation of church and state or institute the Baptist equivalent of Sharia law. We won't hold together if presidents appoint political ideologues to the Justice Department or the Supreme Court of the United States, or if party loyalists try to win elections by trying to stop people from voting rather than winning them over to their ideas. The union can't function if national coalitions continue to use House and Senate rules to prevent important issues from being debated in the open because members know their positions wouldn't withstand public scrutiny. Other sovereign democratic states have central governments more corrupted than our own, but most can fall back on unifying elements we lack: common ethnicity, a shared religion, or near universal consensus on many fundamental political issues. The United States needs its central government to function cleanly, openly, and efficiently because it's one of the few things binding us together.
 

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