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@izzythepush,

Yes. Meanness is a common feature. It is other-directed, not inclusive (I have this failing too like all of us).

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@revelette1,

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Actually that is not true. There was a case recently (according to Politico) which suggest the Equal Protection Clause applies to those outside US soil also.

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More than that, I’d argue that even Muslims not on U.S. soil are protected.

Hmmm, let's look at the line of claims made here, and the "evidence" which supports those claims, eh?

1. You first say, flatly, that the EP applies to those on foreign soil.
2. But then you immediately (effectively) withdraw this claim. You scale it back to saying that some left-wing rag "suggests" this may be the case.
3. Then you quote a left-wing political science professor (not a lawyer) who says they would "argue" for that conclusion.

See the problem here?

For cheese-eaters, subjective opinion quickly becomes indisputable, absolute "fact," so long as they agree with it.

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More on the internal conflicts between WSJ staff and editorial people.

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According to two sources with direct knowledge of the situation, Lasswell was in effect phased out over a period of months from the paper. He took a book leave during the election following conflict with his boss Paul Gigot, the editorial page director, about the extent to which the page should run material sympathetic to Trump.

...According to a source close to Lasswell, the relationship between Lasswell and Gigot broke down in June when Gigot blocked Lasswell from publishing op-eds critical of Trump’s business practices and which raised questions about his alleged ties to Mafia figures.

Atlantic

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@blatham,

Donald Trump, the prisoner of Wharton. He never provided his Wharton transcript. What is he hiding? None of his classmates remember him. Strange.

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/trending/Donald-Trumps-University-of-Pennsylvania-classmates-apparently-have-no-memory-of-him-whatsoever.html

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@blatham,

Its seems to be getting way more difficult to remain DJT supporter as these new revelations that seem to arise almost daily.
When's his head going to explode??

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@Baldimo,

You can't because once you are in another country, you abide by the laws of the country you are in. We the US are not supposed to make laws which respects one religion over another, it doesn't matter if a person is on US soil or a US citizen or not. If Trump was take out the part where he safeguards minority religions in Muslim majority countries, he probably wouldn't have a problem with passing the ban.

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@blatham,

You're close - there was once an LA restaurant of some fame, L'Orangerie..

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@cicerone imposter,

To be fair, that's a long while ago. And the piece says "most" classmates don't recall him though it doesn't quote anyone who did. Still, we can safely assume that his claim he was at the top of his class is total bullshit.

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@blatham,

It's not only about his class standing. It's almost every word he speaks.
https://newrepublic.com/article/124803/donald-trump-not-liar

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@blatham,

Its getting really hrd to be openly supporting JT. Theres some new piece of **** he pulls or twists, or lies about almost every damn dqy. Sometims he gets toofers in a day.
It three weeks into his 4 year regime and hes already got a "cover-up" with Pence a brewing. The subject of which is of a cover-up lie about who lied about Flynn's conversations with the Russians during the campaign. Apparently noone is now denying it but they are manufacturing "testimonial evidence" about who they can hang it upon.

Man o Man o Man.
I notice the trolls are quiet lately (I do not think they can manufacture excuses fast enough.

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@revelette1,

Hmmmm

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@revelette1,

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You can't because once you are in another country, you abide by the laws of the country you are in.

Exactly.

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We the US are not supposed to make laws which respects one religion over another, it doesn't matter if a person is on US soil or a US citizen or not.

Wrong. Our laws only apply to us in the US, not others on foreign soil.

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If Trump was take out the part where he safeguards minority religions in Muslim majority countries, he probably wouldn't have a problem with passing the ban.

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Section 212(f) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) gives the President of the United States broad authority to implement immigration restrictions by proclamation. The statute allows the President to suspend the entry of any aliens or of a class of aliens or place restrictions on the entry of a class of aliens temporarily if he or she determines that the entry of such aliens would be detrimental to the U.S. interest.

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@farmerman,

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Its seems to be getting way more difficult to remain DJT supporter as these new revelations that seem to arise almost daily.
When's his head going to explode??

That is certainly something I've been thinking about. All the reporting from everywhere suggests serious discord and unhappiness at the top of the Trump circle as things get worse pretty much each day. Bill Kristol tweeted something today that was seriously stupid. He said that Trump's first term was looking like Nixon's second term. Yeah, Bill. Except we are only 22 days in.

He's trapped himself in this. He is being widely reviled in the US and abroad while his sense of image seems to be the most important concern he has. He can't bully in the way he is used to doing. Because things are going to **** and he knows it, he must be in a state where trust of any of his lieutenants must be in doubt. Because he's lazy and nearly incapable of admitting error, the blaming of others seems certain to just get worse.

And he's stuck there, ineffectual and increasingly angry.

It's my opinion that he never wanted the job. He just wanted to "show everybody". It's also my opinion that the GOP establishment does not want him there for long. But there's only one way to get rid of him and that would be through invoking the 25th. Which might lead one to a certain line of speculation....

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@blatham,

Trump wanted the title for the history books, but never understood the consequences for his immaturity and how everybody would react so negatively to his actions. The worldwide reaction to his ban won't teach him anything. He proved that by saying, "see you in court."

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@cicerone imposter,

I suspect he isn't teachable (in the normal sense of that term). But he does seem to have a "gift" for building mental structures or devices which excuse him for any failure through blaming others.

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Two can play the "one local judge controls the whole country" game. So here's what's gunna happen.

1. Trump will totally and complete revoke his suspension of immigration order. This will "moot" the Washington case.

2.Trump will then issue a virtually identical order. It won't absolutely prohibit immigration/re-entry, but it will call for "intense scrutiny" by immigration officials in those cases (turns out this "vetting" will be so extreme that it's gunna take at least 90 days to process any given visa request). Some other minor changes.

3. One second after the order is issued, the DOJ will file a petition for declaratory judgment with a judge who was a big Trump supporter and to whom Trump just gave $5 million to show his gratitude.

4. The judge will adjudge the order to be perfectly legal in all constitutional and statutory respects.

5. That court will make it's ruling "effective nationwide."

Pretty simple, actually.

America First, Baby!

Adios, Abdul.

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@layman,

Trump's revocation of his order won't undo the chaos it already created, and the many businesses it has already impacted.

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@farmerman,

No, it just that the level of bullshit in this thread has almost gone over my waders.

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@McGentrix,

But damn! You look so hot in rubber.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

Trump's revocation of his order won't undo the chaos it already created, and the many businesses it has already impacted.

True dat, Al. Can't be undone.

I may cry myself to sleep on account of that tragic fact, too.

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