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Baldimo
 
  -2  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 05:29 pm
@cicerone imposter,
The world sets our immigration regulations and laws? Where was the Constitutional ruling on Trumps order?
layman
 
  -3  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 05:36 pm
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:

The world sets our immigration regulations and laws?


Naw, the Ninth Circuit does, can't ya see?

If ya listen to them, then Trump will have to "present evidence" to "explain the need" for every order he makes. They will then decide if his evidence and explanation suits their ass.

They won't need no stinkin security clearance, either, and neither will anyone who reads the public record of their proceedings. They're a COURT, by God, and they will hold your sorry ass in contempt if you don't do exactly what they say.
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blatham
 
  3  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 05:49 pm
I just thought I should let everyone know that, from now, while typing up entries for this thread, I will be wearing a three-corner hat. When one wears the three-corner hat, that signifies that the wearer, when he or she speaks, will inevitably utter truths about America and liberty.

So, after that intro, on goes the hat. Done.
layman
 
  -3  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 05:50 pm
@blatham,
Three-corner this, eh, Blathy?
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blatham
 
  3  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 05:51 pm
testing...testing

I am so amazed at how incredible America is that I could drop a load.

OK, seems to be working.
georgeob1
 
  -3  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 05:53 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

Its getting really hrd to be openly supporting JT. Theres some new piece of **** he pulls or twists, or lies about almost every damn dqy. Sometims he gets toofers in a day.
It three weeks into his 4 year regime and hes already got a "cover-up" with Pence a brewing. The subject of which is of a cover-up lie about who lied about Flynn's conversations with the Russians during the campaign. Apparently noone is now denying it but they are manufacturing "testimonial evidence" about who they can hang it upon.

Man o Man o Man.
I notice the trolls are quiet lately (I do not think they can manufacture excuses fast enough.


Not at all. It's just that you guys have become tediously repititious and predictable. The two bit psychoanalysis has become sufficiently ludicrous as to itself stifle criticism
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Baldimo
 
  -3  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 05:58 pm
@blatham,
Are these last few posts meant to meet your minimum daily quota for Soros?
layman
 
  -3  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 06:05 pm
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:

Are these last few posts meant to meet your minimum daily quota for Soros?


I hope he's through. I'm gettin all I can eat, every day, at Kentucky Fried Chicken from the Trump campaign to make at least one post for every one Blathy makes.

I'm ready to go to Red's Road House for some fun...after hawgin down at KFC, of course.
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blatham
 
  3  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 06:11 pm
For the legal types, Toobin has a critique on the 9th circuit ruling
http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-vulnerabilities-in-the-ninth-circuits-executive-order-decision
layman
 
  -3  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 06:25 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
Trump’s political adversaries, starved for victories, celebrated.

But is the Ninth Circuit ruling correct on the law?

Here are four areas of concern:....

These issues represent problems for the challengers to Trump’s executive order....[But] the President’s crude attempts to disparage the judges who evaluated it, certainly poisoned the atmosphere in which the case was heard.


I get where this guy's coming from. When he calls insurmountable obstacles mere "areas of concern," he does it with good reason. He knows that a pissed-off judge will vindictively and maliciously seek to impose an adverse result, the law be damned, eh?
oralloy
 
  -2  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 06:36 pm
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:
No need for Americans to consider what China will do with a big pile of money. China has plans and has been implementing them nicely for years. It's one of the ways they got the $ to buy American bonds to begin with.

China's plans will not save them from hyperinflation if they end up with a huge pile of cash and nothing to do with it.
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oralloy
 
  -3  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 06:38 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
Make no mistake, the loss of the petrodollar would be catastrophic for the American economy.

No. It wouldn't even be noticed.
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oralloy
 
  -3  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 06:39 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
It only works because the US is the strongest economy in the world. That's the reason why the Thai bot will never be the highest demand currency.

The strength of our economy is indeed why people use our currency as a medium of international trade.

The supposed "petrodollar" is an effect, not a cause.
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cicerone imposter
 
  4  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 06:39 pm
@layman,
All you Trump supporters are just as ignorant about our Constitution. Trump's ban is Unconstitutional. His "see you in court" is a threat without any basis in reality.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/02/09/us/politics/appeals-court-trump-travel-ban.html
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layman
 
  -3  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 06:42 pm
Quote:
Supreme Court rejects cases on Guantanamo detainee treatment

POLITICS | Mon Mar 9, 2015 | 11:40am EDT

The Supreme Court on Monday spurned two appeals involving U.S. treatment of Guantanamo Bay detainees, barring a Syrian man from suing the United States over alleged torture and blocking the release of images purported to show evidence of a Saudi man's mistreatment.

The justices in both cases left intact lower-court rulings in favor of the U.S. government.

Janko says he was tortured and suffered physical and psychological degradation at Guantanamo from 2002 to 2009 after being detained in Afghanistan in 2001. Janko was seeking damages for the way he was treated.

The appeals court said that based on what Congress has directed, courts do not have the authority to hear lawsuits like the one filed by Janko.

=====

Separately, the court handed a victory to the CIA by declining to take up a case in which a Washington-based civil liberties group, the Center for Constitutional Rights, was seeking access to videos and photographs of another detainee, Saudi citizen Mohammed al-Qahtani. The Center for Constitutional Rights said the images would show evidence that al-Qahtani was tortured.

The justices left in place a September 2014 decision by the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, which ruled the images are exempt from disclosure under the Freedom of Information Act, a law intended to facilitate the release of information held by the government


http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-guantanamo-idUSKBN0M51CI20150309

So much for "due process" rights of a non-citizen, eh? A day of mourning for cheese-eaters, everywhere, eh, Al?
oralloy
 
  -3  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 06:47 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
oralloy wrote:
(Also, the so-called "petrodollar" isn't something that anyone in America cares about.)

There are plenty who do, people significantly smarter than you.

Wrong. Anyone who thinks the supposed "petrodollar" is an issue of any significance to the US has no more than 1% of my intelligence (and probably has quite a bit less than that).


izzythepush wrote:
If another currency replaces the petrodollar then there will be far less need to buy dollars, (printed or in a bank account,) they'll be wanting to turn their dollars into the new petrocurrency.

No, those countries will continue to want to hold reserves of the currency of a large, stable, and reliable economy (meaning the US).

Anyone who thinks that the reason why countries hold reserves of dollars is because oil is sold in dollars is a goofy lunatic.


izzythepush wrote:
That will leave a lot of unwanted US dollars/securities washing about the system leading to hyperinflation.

This is also why China would face hyperinflation if they suddenly had a huge pile of cash from selling off US bonds and nowhere to invest it in.

Setting aside for a moment the fact that countries would not be shedding dollars to begin with, if they did suddenly shed dollars, if the Fed is on their toes and doing their job they could easily adjust the money supply to absorb the influx.

China might also try to avoid hyperinflation by adjusting their money supply, but I suspect they don't have a large enough money supply to handle the influx.

I suppose China could simply burn all the cash they got from selling off US bonds. That would save them from inflation. But that would take an already-catastrophic loss for them and make it even worse.



I am well aware of petrodollar conspiracy lunatics.

The petrodollar nonsense first started among those far right guys who think it is against the law to pay taxes and think the dollar should be tied to the value of gold. But for some reason left-wing conspiracy nuts took it up themselves, and they haven't stopped babbling about it since.
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roger
 
  1  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 06:50 pm
@layman,

Quote:
The justices left in place a September 2014 decision by the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, which ruled the images are exempt from disclosure under the Freedom of Information Act,


Did they explain their reasoning on this?
oralloy
 
  -4  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 06:51 pm
@layman,
layman wrote:
Boy, the speed of this spamming onslaught is quite impressive, I must say! I go into the kitchen, pour a bowl of cornflakes, grab a couple beers to pour over them, come back and PRESTO!

5-6 new posts have suddenly appeared, now that Blathy is back in action.

When a poster never thinks for themselves and is just pointing at other people saying "I think what they think", they can cut-n-paste quite a bit in a short time.
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oralloy
 
  -4  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 06:52 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
Its seems to be getting way more difficult to remain DJT supporter as these new revelations that seem to arise almost daily.
When's his head going to explode??

I have no difficulty supporting Mr. Trump.
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oralloy
 
  -4  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 06:54 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
Its getting really hrd to be openly supporting JT.

No difficulties on my end.


farmerman wrote:
I notice the trolls are quiet lately (I do not think they can manufacture excuses fast enough.

Is "troll" being defined as "someone who doesn't hate Mr. Trump"?

I've gotten a bit bored with all the tantrums about Mr. Trump and have been tuning them out instead of rebutting them.
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