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blatham
 
  6  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 01:58 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
I saw a wonderful protest sign being held up by some Brit standing in front of Big Ben.
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Don't Combover Here


And there's this:
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Gallup Poll Says Just 29% of Americans Think Trump is Respected by World Leaders
Mediaite
It's quaint how optimistic Americans can be.
layman
 
  -3  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 02:00 pm
@blatham,
Yeah, well, Blathy, ya know, from what I hear-tell:

Yo Mama so fat that when she went for a swim at the beach and drifted out to sea, aircraft from 4 different nations landed on her, all trying to be the first to claim discovery of the new continent.
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Debra Law
 
  6  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 02:01 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz to Farmerman wrote:

You obviously know a lot about engineering but the law? Not so much.

The 9th Circuit's decision sets precedent only if the Supreme Court affirms it or refuses to hear an appeal.


The 9th Circuit's decisions are binding on all other courts in the Ninth Circuit. Inasmuch as the TRO was nationwide, it stands nationwide unless the Supreme Court reverses it.

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The Supreme Court has reversed 86% of the 9th Circuit's decisions brought before it. That is a staggering demonstration of malfeasance on the part of those loony liberal judges. It is unethical for judges to allow provocation to influence their decisions, but that's Old Hat for the 9th Circus.


I don't know if your statistic is accurate, but even if it is accurate, it is deceptive and meaningless.

"The [Supreme] Court receives approximately 7,000-8,000 petitions for a writ of certiorari each Term.  The Court grants and hears oral argument in about 80 cases." https://www.supremecourt.gov/faq.aspx#faqgi9

In other words, only the very smallest fraction of cases heard and decided by the Ninth Circuit ever reach the Supreme Court for review. Almost 100 percent of its decisions stand as mandatory precedent for its circuit and as persuasive authority in all other circuits.


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The SC will hear an appeal if for no other reason that there is a conflicting opinion from a MA judge.


Maybe the SC will waste its time on a TRO, maybe not.

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Even the "liberal" justices on the SC can't be so politically motivated as allow States' Attorneys Generals to trump the president on matters of immigration and national security
.

This is not a liberal vs. conservative issue. Did you read the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals decision? Here it is:

https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2017/02/09/17-35105.pdf

A president is not a dictator--not even on matters of immigration and national security--and his actions are subject to judicial review. A president is not endowed with special power to violate the constitutional rights of persons.

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If they are, God help us as we will be headed towards a breakup of the union.

(And, preemptively, please stow you nonsense about such talk being treasonous)


Chicken Little is crying about an insignificant acorn that fell on his head. The sky is not falling, Finn dAbuzz. Judicial review of the actions of our political branches is the only safeguard "we the people" have for the protection and preservation of our lives, liberty, and property. We aren't going to engage in civil war because our courts are fulfilling the purposes for which they were created.
izzythepush
 
  2  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 02:07 pm
@blatham,
Adam Hills, an Australian btw, said if there was a competition for the wittiest protest banner Britain would win hands down.

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/f275cd726072772e88397a781afc94120f6f61da/0_0_3500_2370/master/3500.jpg?w=880&q=20&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&dpr=2&s=9ec328214a2db04906018be58368d499

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/9a7e8da6a9c2b0f868f97f7446d6f01a4e6a5064/0_0_5591_3744/master/5591.jpg?w=880&q=20&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&dpr=2&s=076a77e026196d32cd5d9067f16ea00c

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/f7e900762126c4d4cbaec53aaaa2db2a02e2456e/0_0_6600_4416/master/6600.jpg?w=880&q=20&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&dpr=2&s=6670c8c7e7f762b18c1d6ccc971aba3b
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/3be2b4900646c2d35c14edd4aa952fbd61954f04/0_0_6157_4128/master/6157.jpg?w=1920&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=564fd4a46250bff3f422fdde0831aea0
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/40ee8fec754eeb99d83c40a98b66ccad74a3ee0f/0_0_3264_2159/master/3264.jpg?w=880&q=20&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&dpr=2&s=d9ee27c7beba5d0dbe5e3ea028da2075

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/f7e900762126c4d4cbaec53aaaa2db2a02e2456e/0_0_6600_4416/master/6600.jpg?w=880&q=20&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&dpr=2&s=6670c8c7e7f762b18c1d6ccc971aba3b
Baldimo
 
  -2  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 02:09 pm
@Debra Law,
As a lawyer, can you tell us what the Constitutional ruling was and how they came to rule on the Constitutionality of his EO?
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blatham
 
  3  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 02:10 pm
Propaganda. It has consequences.

51% to 23%, self identified Trump supporters polled believe that the Bowling Green Massacre justifies Trump's EO on immigration.
Market Watch
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blatham
 
  6  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 02:16 pm
@izzythepush,
Humor is a delight wherever it comes from (though I am very fond of how Brits do it). One of my professors quoted a remark by a writer (whose name I don't recall) who said that the singular piece of evidence for God's genius was the creation of humor.

Quite aside from the theological framing (which may have been tongue in cheek anyway) that remark will stay with me because it is, in a very profound way, one of the brightest notions about the human condition I've ever bumped into.
izzythepush
 
  2  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 02:41 pm
@blatham,
Having a sense of humour it what separates man from the Trump supporters.
ossobucotemp
 
  1  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 02:43 pm
@wmwcjr,
Throwing in that I'm a wmwcjr fan of long standing. Of course we disagree on this and that, but it doesn't change my respect.
blatham
 
  2  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 02:53 pm
@izzythepush,
As I've noted before, there are almost no humorists, present or past, who have been conservatives. It's a near total absence. This severe disparity in letters, in political commentary, in comedy tells us, I think, something very important which no one I know of has adequately explained.
blatham
 
  2  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 02:54 pm
@ossobucotemp,
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Throwing in that I'm a wmwcjr fan of long standing. Of course we disagree on this and that, but it doesn't change my respect.

And his mother has lovely feet.
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layman
 
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Fri 10 Feb, 2017 02:56 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

As I've noted before, there are almost no humorists, present or past, who have been conservatives. It's a near total absence. This severe disparity in letters, in political commentary, in comedy tells us, I think, something very important which no one I know of has adequately explained.


Yeah, right, eh? This is what that hard-core commie, Christopher Hitchins, done said:

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One of the many problems with the American left, and indeed of the American left, has been its image and self-image as something rather too solemn, mirthless, herbivorous, dull, monochrome, righteous, and boring.

How many times, in my old days at The Nation magazine, did I hear wistful and semienvious ruminations? Where was the radical Firing Line show? Who will be our Rush Limbaugh?

I used privately to hope that the emphasis, if the comrades ever got around to it, would be on the first of those and not the second. But the meetings themselves were so mind-numbing and lugubrious that I thought the danger of success on either front was infinitely slight.
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blatham
 
  2  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 03:02 pm
From our excellent series, Lunatics On The Loose (soon to be a major motion picture musical - La La Land L'Orange)
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President Donald Trump can’t stop—won’t stop—talking about the election.

On Thursday, during a meeting with 10 senators that was billed as a listening session about Supreme Court nominee Neil Gorsuch, the president went off on a familiar tangent, suggesting again that he was a victim of widespread voter fraud despite the fact that he won the presidential election.

...As soon as the door closed and the reporters allowed to observe for a few minutes had been ushered out, Trump began to talk about the election, participants said, triggered by the presence of former New Hampshire Sen. Kelly Ayotte, who lost her reelection bid in November and is now working for Trump as a Capitol Hill liaison, or “Sherpa,” on the Supreme Court nomination of Judge Neil Gorsuch.

The president claimed that he and Ayotte both would have been victorious in the Granite State if not for the “thousands” people who were “brought in on buses” from neighboring Massachusetts to “illegally” vote in New Hampshire.
Politico
Baldimo
 
  -2  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 03:05 pm
@blatham,
There are plenty of conservative comedians, they just choose to not do political comedy.
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McGentrix
 
  -1  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 03:10 pm
@layman,
I am sure there are dozens.
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revelette1
 
  3  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 03:16 pm
@Baldimo,
Actually that is not true. There was a case recently (according to Politico) which suggest the Equal Protection Clause applies to those outside US soil also.

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It doesn’t matter, by the way, whether the Muslims in question are citizens or noncitizens, green card holders, visa holders or refugees. The Equal Protection Clause explicitly prohibits “deny[ing] to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.” The Supreme Court made this clear in Plyler v. Doe, when it protected the rights of non-citizen children in Texas, striking down a denial of school funds to the children of undocumented parents. This means that all foreign travelers on U.S. soil—those waiting at U.S. airports, for example—are protected.

More than that, I’d argue that even Muslims not on U.S. soil are protected. Recent case law suggests that no act by a government official—no matter to whom it applies—can be based on disapproval of a race, ethnicity or religion. In other words, when it comes to Equal Protection, it’s the motive of the government and its agents that matters. If a government official seeks to carry out Trump’s order and bar entry into the country, that is a violation of the Constitution and laws of the United States.




source[url]
hightor
 
  4  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 03:31 pm
Earlier I pointed to an article which connects the alt-right with Italian Futurism. Turns out that Bannon is also infected by another affliction of Italian origin — the Evola virus.
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Baldimo
 
  -2  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 03:31 pm
@revelette1,
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This means that all foreign travelers on U.S. soil—those waiting at U.S. airports, for example—are protected.

This says on US soil. The Constitution does not apply to those outside US soil. It says nothing about those in other countries. Can you use the defense of free speech outside the US in a foreign country? No you can't, you are under the jurisdiction of the country you are visiting. Constitution does not apply outside of our own borders.
blatham
 
  3  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 03:35 pm
Was just going through the Darwin Awards twitter feed and found this remarkable filling station graphic. No, have no idea of the story that might have encouraged this warning to be posted.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C30_KEaXUAAbqGD.jpg

I suppose some wag took an exacto knife and re-designed the original. A fine use of one's time, I think.
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izzythepush
 
  2  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 03:36 pm
@blatham,
Those that are tend to be the likes of Bernard Manning and Jim Davison, tired old racist/sexist jokes aimed at the weak and vulnerable. No self deprecation whatsoever, only really enjoyed by stupid people.
 

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