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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
blatham
 
  3  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 01:10 pm
Quote:
Elliott Abrams, who served Presidents Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush, will not get the No. 2 job at the State Department, three Republican sources told CNN.

But Abrams was nixed from the list of contenders after President Donald Trump learned of Abrams' biting criticism last May of his fitness to become president, the Republican sources said.
CNN
Personally, I'm absolutely delighted that this guy, previously convicted of lying to Congress during Iran/Contra, won't have such a high position (or perhaps any position at all) in the administration.

But the key point here is Trump's reasons. His shallowness and his susceptibility to narcissistic injury is so acute that anyone hoping Trump will encourage contradiction and criticism from those around him are not going to have that hope realized.
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blatham
 
  2  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 01:12 pm
@wmwcjr,
I'm sorry. Obviously I misunderstood you as well. My apologies.

wmwcjr
 
  0  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 01:19 pm
@blatham,
There's no need for you to apologize. I'm the one who should apologize for not making myself clear. Again (which seems to be my favorite word lately), my comment about the astounding hypocrisy was directed solely at the individuals in Waco who attempted to cover up the Baylor scandal. That does not include any member of this forum. Everything's okay! (I hope.)
blatham
 
  4  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 01:22 pm
Quote:
GOPVerified account
‏@GOP
We stand with @POTUS. Do you? #9thcircuit

Nothing abnormal about this tweet from the GOP.

"Join with us. Stand foursquare against any person or institution which might refuse to abide by the wishes of the President (when he is from our party). Patriotism is thus defined."
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layman
 
  -2  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 01:22 pm
@wmwcjr,
Talkin for my own damn self, Bill, if I wanted to talk about hypocrisy, I would start with posters right here. I wouldn't exclude myself, neither.

This forum is kinda like a man and wife who now hate each because they each cheated on the other and they won't let the other person forget it, either.

Shut up, ya ho! Bite me, ya cheatin bastard!
hightor
 
  4  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 01:25 pm
I wonder how the scowling, blustering, and posturing looks to the rest of the planet. Stateside it seems to be playing well enough with Mr. Trump's base but there are real consequences beyond his reception in the right-wing echo chamber, various op-ed pages and online message boards.

So, Mr. Trump opens by playing Mr. Tough Guy with China. China bides its time. Mr. Trump folds. What was gained with this little charade?

Or, Mr. Trump issues his promised immigration decree. Of course this is a pretty complex maneuver and quite controversial. So why not take a little bit of time to consult with immigration lawyers, refugee groups, American Muslims, experienced State Department personnel and roll out a proposal of unquestioned legality which can actually be implemented in an orderly manner, albeit with grudging acceptance in some quarters ? Other than scoring points with his base, what was accomplished?

There are some who defend Mr. Trump and suggest that he really knows what he's doing, he's a really smart businessman, he's keeping his opposition guessing, etc. That plays well here — America loves a tycoon!
But I wonder what the effect is of continually courting the contempt of much of the world. I get the sense that this hasn't really been thought through and that the administration is not really equipped to deal with the consequences of Mr. Trump's narcissism and obvious inexperience.

Much is made on the left of parallels and similarities between Mr. Trump and the "alt-right" with the rise of fascism but Futurism might supply a better model than Nazism.
blatham
 
  4  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 01:25 pm
@wmwcjr,
Everything is just fine. Though I could add that anything negative you wish to say about Finn, including how unattractive his mother's feet are, would be unlikely to gain my disapprobation.
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Debra Law
 
  4  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 01:26 pm
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:

I'm still seeing too much (IMNSHO) we should rise above it noise coming from the left.

No. Don't rise above it. Fight it. Get noisy. Be rude. There is absolutely no upside to being more polite than people on the political right.


I know I have been noisy and rude, even to my own family and friends. I cannot support the status quo ... I cannot support the Democratic Party in its current form ... I would not vote for Hillary Clinton because I firmly believe she was too entrenched into the corrupt establishment and too willing to play the divide and conquer game on all of us while serving the interests of corporations and billionaires. I cannot support Trump and I won't even allow my family members/friends to tell me that "we the people" as a collective have to give him a chance. NO! We don't have to support that destructive fool.

This is not a progressive vs. conservative fight over red meat issues. This is a fight for our survival as a democracy ... not the farce of a democracy we've been forced to endure for the last few decades. None of us, regardless of our political leanings, should support the two major political parties that use and abuse all of us for the benefit of a powerful few. Both major political parties need to restore our democracy or be replaced. Period. We must resist.

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blatham
 
  3  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 01:33 pm
@hightor,
Thank you. An area I knew nothing about.
Quote:
Italian Futurists (like today’s alt-Right) had a special relationship to truth. Rumour and rhetoric was their register of choice. ‘We live in a post-fact era. It’s wonderful,’ says Yiannopoulos. Yet to lie is to abuse power. It is that simple. You know you’re lying, and you also know that your audience doesn’t know, so to lie is to exploit that power imbalance contemptuously. Fascism has never been known for its intellectuality and, although book-burning seems a thing of the past, its equivalent is happening right now in the dissemination of lies about climate change, in flaming the scientists online, and trolling writers who cover the subject. In taking a deliberately anti-intellectual stance, these libertarians undermine the very idea of expertise, creating the thuggish intellectual atmosphere in which fascism flourishes. Delingpole, discussing the rise of Trump recently, remarked: ‘Part of the problem is people with degrees … there are too many of them.’
layman
 
  -3  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 01:35 pm
@hightor,
The opening paragraph describes the left to a 't."

Quote:
Fascism begins as something in the air. Stealthy as smoke in the darkness, easier to smell than to see. Fascism sets out an ethos, not a set of policies; appeals to emotion, not fact. It begins as a pose, often a deceptive one. It likes propaganda, dislikes truth, and invests heavily in performance. Untroubled by its own incoherence, it is anti-intellectual and yet contemptuous of the populace even as it exploits the crowd mentality. Fascism is accented differently in different countries, and uses the materials – and the media – of the times.


Just another "Republicans (Democrats) don't do that kinda ****, only Democrates (Republicans) do" partisan stance, ripe with hypocrisy, eh?
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blatham
 
  3  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 01:36 pm
Quote:
Jon Favreau ‏@jonfavs 7h7 hours ago
Jon Favreau Retweeted John Harwood
It's almost as if electing an unstable Fox News viewer in his 70s with no governing experience wasn't a great idea.
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layman
 
  -3  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 01:37 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Thank you. An area I knew nothing about.


And thank you for proving the point I just made, eh?
wmwcjr
 
  0  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 01:38 pm
@layman,
Your comment is interesting. There is a lot of shouting going on -- not only in this forum, but in society at large. We live in unsettling times.
blatham
 
  4  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 01:39 pm
Just so we remember history correctly...
Quote:
The Ninth Circuit ruling tells us that Sally Yates was right—and Donald Trump was wrong.
John Nichols

What the WH will have to do (and this looks to be their strategy) is to throw away the old EO and write another different order.
Baldimo
 
  -3  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 01:42 pm
@layman,
How much propaganda can Blatham copy and paste in one day? I'm beginning to think he really is a paid poster. Do you think we can figure out how much Soros is paying?
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layman
 
  -3  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 01:44 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Just so we remember history correctly...
Quote:
The Ninth Circuit ruling tells us that Sally Yates was right—and Donald Trump was wrong.
John Nichols


Hardly. It mainly proves that she belongs out in San Francisco (9th Circus) where all the other nutty, self-important lawyers hang out.
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Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 01:44 pm
Quote:
UK state visit will take place during recess to avoid snub by MPs – and president’s exposure to public protests will be limited

The government has abandoned the idea of Donald Trump addressing the joint Houses of Parliament when he comes to Britain for a state visit later this year after objections by MPs led by the Commons Speaker John Bercow.

The US president’s controversial visit is now expected to run from a Thursday to a Sunday in late summer or early autumn, with officials trying to ensure that Trump is not in London at a time when parliament is sitting, in order to avoid a formal snub.
[...]
Officials are also said to be keen to limit the president’s public exposure more generally during the visit, in order to reduce the opportunities for protests and disorder on a state occasion. Hundreds of thousands of protesters could be expected in any large city, causing major headaches for the emergency and security services. This suggests that the president will spend relatively little time in London, while the majority of the visit will be conducted behind as strict a security cordon as possible.
Source
layman
 
  -3  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 01:47 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
That kinda sucks, eh, Walt? An all-out dissin match between Trump and those candyass limeys would be very entertaining.
layman
 
  -3  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 01:51 pm
@layman,
Trump knows how to insult ya without even insultin ya, eh?

Like the time he said on stage that he wouldn't insult Rand because of his looks, adding..."And, believe me, I could if I wanted--there's a lot of material there."
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blatham
 
  3  
Fri 10 Feb, 2017 01:54 pm
@wmwcjr,
Quote:
There is a lot of shouting going on

I almost never shout. I was raised Mennonite where it was deemed that a loud voice arose from a loud spirit and loud spirits were not much welcome. When, for example, the plowing wasn't moving along at the pace father had requested, you didn't hit or shout at the ox. Instead, you might rub it behind the ear and then attach a page from Psalms to the end of a long stick and attach it so the page was visible in front of the noble creature. And then you'd just hope for the best and move silently through the afternoon.

But I have sometimes failed. Even here. Some months ago I wrote:
Quote:
(unnamed poster's) MOTHER'S FEET LOOK LIKE PEPPERONI PIZZA

I'm still ashamed.
 

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