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Setanta
 
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Mon 4 May, 2020 02:31 pm
@coldjoint,
Always eager to display your ignorance, aren't you. Polk said in the 1844 campaign that he would not run for a second term. He's the only president who made campaign promises which he kept. He negotiated a treat with Great Britain on the Oregon territory. He promised to annex Texas, which he did, leading to the Mexican War. He largely controlled the conduct of the war, and did all he could to sabotage Winfield Scott's electoral prospects for 1848. Scott took Mexico City in one of the most brilliant campaigns in the history of American arms. Polk succeeded in all of this domestic plans as well. He did successfully Scott's electoral prospects, but that lead to the election of Zachary Taylor, the other prominent commanding general in the war. Taylor died of cholera, and I know of no reputable historian to claim he was an alcoholic. But you're never really concerned with the truth.
Setanta
 
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Mon 4 May, 2020 02:33 pm
@hightor,
The member to whom it is addressed knows it.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Mon 4 May, 2020 02:37 pm
@Setanta,
Quote:
Always eager to display your ignorance,

What I said about Polk is true. Period.
Setanta
 
  3  
Mon 4 May, 2020 02:38 pm
This is a good time to quote Winston Churchill again: “There is no worse mistake in public leadership than to hold out false hopes soon to be swept away." Let us hope this comes home to roost with the fat boy in White House with a vengeance.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Mon 4 May, 2020 02:39 pm
@Setanta,
Quote:
The member to whom it is addressed knows it.

How does that change the fact that no one cares?
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Mon 4 May, 2020 02:42 pm
@Setanta,
Quote:
Winston Churchill

Also said that the new fascists will come to power masquerading as anti-fascists, in so many words. What party claims to be anti- fascist and promotes fascist activities while accusing others of exactly what they are doing.

The answer is the Democratic party. The #Not Me party.Laughing Laughing Laughing

He, Churchill, also had some relevant thoughts on Islam.

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livinglava
 
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Mon 4 May, 2020 02:43 pm
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

Certainly Americans habitually re-elect "war presidents," but not if they started the war. James Polk is the only president that ever unambiguously started a war--the Mexican War--but he did not run for re-election. The fat boy in the White House would have to engineer a war, and I don't think that would work. (Polk in fact died on inauguration day of Zachary Taylor who replaced him. We would never be so lucky.)

The Democrats make politics into a war against anything that obstructs their social-economic agenda.
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Setanta
 
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Mon 4 May, 2020 02:48 pm
@coldjoint,
Bullshit . . . you and the truth are not even on speaking terms.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Mon 4 May, 2020 02:54 pm
@Setanta,
Quote:
Bullshit . . . you and the truth are not even on speaking terms

If you are saying Polk was not an alcoholic, you are wrong. That is all I claimed, and that alcoholism ruins lives. Do you think alcoholism is a blessing?
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snood
 
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Mon 4 May, 2020 03:02 pm
First it was just Dr Fauci. Now Trump is banning the whole corona virus task force from appearing before Congress.

It’s almost like he thinks he has something to lose from the task force testifying truthfully.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/496016-white-house-prohibits-coronavirus-task-force-members-from-testifying
coldjoint
 
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Mon 4 May, 2020 03:07 pm
@snood,
Quote:
It’s almost like he thinks he has something to lose from the task force testifying truthfully.

It is in his power to do this. Of course you would think the worse. Did you think that when Obama shut "Fast and Furious" down with executive privilege?
snood
 
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Mon 4 May, 2020 03:15 pm
@coldjoint,
Jesus. That the best you can do? He did it because he can, and what about Obama?

Name one good reason he could have for not letting the scientists speak.
farmerman
 
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Mon 4 May, 2020 03:47 pm
@snood,
I cannot believe the low shots this president is capable of delivering. This weekend he tweeted that "Obama was in charge of a "Russia Hoax" and, after Pres Bush delivered a plea for uniting the country, all Trump sent out was "Oh yeah, where was (Bush) when I got impeached. He didnt come to back me "

ARE YOU SHITTIN ME???

Why is everything said by the president always ABOUT this president.
livinglava
 
  -2  
Mon 4 May, 2020 03:54 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:

First it was just Dr Fauci. Now Trump is banning the whole corona virus task force from appearing before Congress.

It’s almost like he thinks he has something to lose from the task force testifying truthfully.

He's probably just thinking about the propaganda ramifications.

Everything gets politicized and becomes a partisan battleground these days.

When anti-Trumpists claim to just want objective/unbiased things, that is just another way to try to achieve more powerful propaganda.

It's sad because I think there really are people who want objective/unbiased things to happen, but the partisan/factional power ninjas are going to manipulate anything and everything to pursue partisan/factional agendas.

Neutrality has become a marginalized endangered species by posing fake-neutrality in its place.
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blatham
 
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Mon 4 May, 2020 04:56 pm
Quote:
The Justice Department on Sunday dipped its toe in another dispute between a church and government officials seeking to enforce public health orders for the pandemic.

The Justice Department filed a statement of interest in a case brought by a church in Virginia. Lighthouse Fellowship Church sued in federal court after facing criminal citations for holding a service that violated Virginia’s ban on 10-plus person gatherings.

As lockdown orders continue across the country, a growing number of religious organizations are fighting those ordinances in courts. Those churches so far have found a Justice Department willing to take their side over that of local or state officials.
TPM

This has William Barr's fingerprints all over it.

We generally consider that the religious right in the US is predominantly Protestant/Evangelical in makeup and that is so and has been since prior to the Reagan administration. Catholic voters are different,shifting voting between the two parties over time.

But there is a highly influential portion of the Catholic community who share with Evangelical communities a distinct and explicit notion that government must be directed by and subservient to a set of traditional moral notions and values. Though they would bristle at a description of themselves as theocrats, that is indeed what they are. And William Barr stands about as far towards theocracy as one might get which his speech at the Federalist Society in November makes explicit (google for text or video of the speech).

That he gave this speech to the Federalist Society is no surprise. That entity has many individuals as members who share Barr's religiosity and visions of "proper" governance. Scalia was a seminal figure here and we now have four or five Supreme Court justices who are each tightly aligned philosophically.

It seems an irony that the right wing fulminations against "elites" are spewed out as a constant rhetorical white noise while the movement is itself, in so many ways, a clear manifestation of elitism. These people I'm referencing represent an elitism that is little different from, for example, the aristocratic sector of British society and politics. Highly educated, often from wealthy and high society families and social circles and with little affinity for popular culture and with strong tendencies to reject and repress social change and moral re-configurations.

But it is not really an irony at all. It is more accurately understood as a presentation (or mis-presentation) of motives and beliefs about democracy for an American audience and as a means to convince Americans, who prize their culture as an instance of anti-elitism which rejects Brit or European old world cultures, that something more populist is afoot in America. But the last thing these folks want is rule but citizens who aren't them - because they represent the best of America (or even the world).

Given the makeup of the present SC, people like Barr are now pushing cases towards the court which they believe, with good reason, will now find in their favor and which will return America to a much more theocratic, authoritarian society.

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oralloy
 
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Mon 4 May, 2020 05:10 pm
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:
Bullshit . . . you and the truth are not even on speaking terms.

I didn't notice anyone pointing out any errors in coldjoint's posts.

The fact that no one can point out errors in his posts is reason to believe that everything he says is true.
Setanta
 
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Mon 4 May, 2020 05:22 pm
@oralloy,
This may be the last time I ever waste time responding to you, Mr. "I'm never wrong" clown. Joint said James Polk was an alcoholic. He provided no evidence of that. Are you now claiming expert knowledge of the subject? Really, you are pathetically delusional.
BillW
 
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Mon 4 May, 2020 05:22 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

I cannot believe the low shots this president is capable of delivering. This weekend he tweeted that "Obama was in charge of a "Russia Hoax" and, after Pres Bush delivered a plea for uniting the country, all Trump sent out was "Oh yeah, where was (Bush) when I got impeached. He didnt come to back me "

ARE YOU SHITTIN ME???

Why is everything said by the president always ABOUT this president.



Narcissist-In-Chief
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blatham
 
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Mon 4 May, 2020 05:57 pm
Quote:
FLINT, Mich. -- A woman, her adult son and husband have been charged in the fatal shooting of a security guard who refused to let her daughter enter a Family Dollar in Michigan because she wasn't wearing a face mask to protect against transmission of the coronavirus.

Calvin Munerlyn was shot Friday at the store just north of downtown Flint a short time after telling Sharmel Teague’s daughter she had to leave because she lacked a mask, according to Genesee County Prosecutor David Leyton.
link

The modern right in America is psychologically and civically healthy and of great benefit to the overall good.
Builder
 
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Mon 4 May, 2020 06:06 pm
Trey Gowdy raises an interesting point here.

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