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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
MontereyJack
 
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Sun 19 Apr, 2020 12:59 am
@coldjoint,
November's gonna tell the tale, straight from the White House direct to the Jail House..
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MontereyJack
 
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Sun 19 Apr, 2020 01:48 am
@Builder,
And I'm pretty sure that everybody who dies this year from coronavirus would gladly trade it for dying in ten years from heart failure. Really great of you to try to trivialize someone else's death.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Sun 19 Apr, 2020 05:53 am
US and Russia blocking UN plans for a global ceasefire amid crisis
Quote:
The Trump administration and Russia are blocking efforts to win binding UN security council backing for a global ceasefire to help fight the coronavirus pandemic, which has claimed more than 150,000 lives worldwide.

he UN secretary-general, António Guterres, called for an immediate end to fighting involving governments and armed groups in all conflict areas almost one month ago. “The fury of the virus illustrates the folly of war,” he said.

Yet despite strong support for a universal truce from dozens of countries, including leading US allies such as Britain, France and Germany, as well as human rights groups, charities and the pope, the Trump administration is refusing to be bound by the measure.

In an attempt to break the impasse, Emmanuel Macron, the French president, has proposed a draft security council resolution which attempts to overcome US and Russian objections by, in effect, making it impossible to enforce.

The resolution, as drafted, is understood to welcome the UN secretary-general’s appeal and express support for his efforts. But it does not insist on a binding, universal ceasefire, allowing exceptions to be made at the discretion of individual member states.
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MontereyJack
 
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Sun 19 Apr, 2020 05:56 am
@Builder,
How's your comprehension? Of course people die from other causes. Duh. Lots of deaths from other causes, because there are a lot of people. However a lot of people right now are getting very sick and/or dying from something new, because that's what epidemics/pandemics are, and there will always be a new one waiting in the wings because viruses are persistent evolving little buggers which have been here far longer than we have. So when a new once starts killing us, we work very hard to mitigate losses. We've figured out a few things that work on an ad hoc basis, and we put them into effect and that has helped reduce the toll. Meanwhile we know much more than we did a few years or a few decades ore a few centuries ago, and we can actually make cures or preventatives now, but it takes time to figure them out, so we're buying that time and keeping people alive til we find them. You are not helpful here.
MontereyJack
 
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Sun 19 Apr, 2020 06:02 am
@Builder,
If an Aussie says something dumb he gets csalled on it, same as a Yank or a Brit. I have a bunch of relatives in Oz (or from it, they've spread out the last few years), mostly very sensible, so you get no special exemption when you blow it.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Sun 19 Apr, 2020 06:21 am
@MontereyJack,
In any case, the current US president used to be very afraid of being infected by a virus (then and now very dangerous one. too):

Quote:
As the Aids crisis accelerated in the 1980s, Donald Trump, then building his brand as a boldface name in the New York City tabloids, reacted with paranoia, ruthlessness and bigotry.
The Guardian, full report: Trump and Fauci: America's future hangs on this delicate relationship

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President Donald Trump allegedly remarked that he had fumigated the dinnerware at his Florida resort Mar-a-Lago after his former friend and fixer Roy Cohn, who was dying of AIDS-related complications at the time, had visited the property, according to a new book.
Newsweek,1/17/20

https://i.imgur.com/A9tYE33l.jpg
Sun Journal - Jun 28, 1991
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farmerman
 
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Sun 19 Apr, 2020 06:39 am
@Builder,
Quote:

How's that comprehension upgrade going? Bit slow on the uptake?? One death every 37 seconds, NOT related to COVID at all.

Get with the program.
Thats about as moronic as anything Ive read about Covid on A2K. When we made cars safer I assume that folks would yell out" What about all the deaths by tractor? Why dont you offer yourself up as the first volunteer along with pinky , since you both feel its som kind of duty to sacrifice yourself for the good of the rich.

I know critical thinking is above your pay grade but we must handle ALL of our problems and not ignore ANYTHING that causes even more deaths and covid could be another potential global disaster in the making. One thing Trump got right is that this is a war (too bad the idiot dropped the ball after that observation).

These idiotic comparisons are without any merit of consideration. Im never surprised at where some people's "thinking" processes. Im amazed but not surprised. Weve seen all kinds of stupid manifest itself on this planet.

Walter Hinteler
 
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Sun 19 Apr, 2020 06:54 am
@farmerman,
Well, I'm one of those, too, who could not and will never understand those idiotic comparisons.
But this stupidity seems to be spreading now.
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blatham
 
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Sun 19 Apr, 2020 08:10 am
@glitterbag,
I didn't follow up on later reporting of why Crozier was actually fired. Did you? The notion I had was it was an instance of ass kissing Trump but I'm not sure.
blatham
 
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Sun 19 Apr, 2020 08:19 am
Winner of the week's No ****, Sherlock! award
Quote:
Trump’s unspoken factor on reopening the economy: Politics
Many Trump aides and allies say an earlier restart could help the president in his reelection campaign — and they're telling the president that.
Politico
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blatham
 
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Sun 19 Apr, 2020 08:23 am
[quote]Pence presses governors to ramp up testing

The vice president said he believed it was possible to double coronavirus testing capacity with assistance from the nation’s governors.

.."To try to push this off, to say that the governors have plenty of testing and they should just get to work on testing — somehow we aren't doing our job — is just absolutely false," said Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan, a Republican, said on CNN’s “State of the Union.“ Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, a Democrat, made similar remarks on the same program..[/quote]


Just one small part of the campaign to blame others, of course.

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hightor
 
  4  
Sun 19 Apr, 2020 08:27 am
@blatham,
He was fired because some of the e-mail recipients were outside the chain of command.
blatham
 
  3  
Sun 19 Apr, 2020 08:37 am
h/t Paul O'Neill. Had the integrity to stand up to Bush and Cheney.
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blatham
 
  3  
Sun 19 Apr, 2020 08:41 am
@hightor,
Did you get the sense that rationale was honest?
blatham
 
  3  
Sun 19 Apr, 2020 08:53 am
Quote:
Pence says Trump’s ‘LIBERATE’ tweets were meant to encourage governors to ‘safely and responsibly’ reopen states
WP

The Book of Exodus in all the White House bibles have had the commandment "Thou shalt not bear false witness" crossed out with a sharpie.
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Sun 19 Apr, 2020 09:13 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:
The Book of Exodus in all the White House bibles have had the commandment "Thou shalt not bear false witness" crossed out with a sharpie.
I got a rare view of one example

https://i.imgur.com/6w4eG7Fl.jpg
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layman
 
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Sun 19 Apr, 2020 09:18 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

Quote:

How's that comprehension upgrade going? Bit slow on the uptake?? One death every 37 seconds, NOT related to COVID at all.

Get with the program.
Thats about as moronic as anything Ive read about Covid on A2K. When we made cars safer I assume that folks would yell out" What about all the deaths by tractor? Why dont you offer yourself up as the first volunteer along with pinky , since you both feel its som kind of duty to sacrifice yourself for the good of the rich.

I know critical thinking is above your pay grade but we must handle ALL of our problems and not ignore ANYTHING that causes even more deaths and covid could be another potential global disaster in the making. One thing Trump got right is that this is a war (too bad the idiot dropped the ball after that observation).

These idiotic comparisons are without any merit of consideration. Im never surprised at where some people's "thinking" processes. Im amazed but not surprised. Weve seen all kinds of stupid manifest itself on this planet


As usual, you completely miss the point, Farmboy.

Why don't we shut down the whole country every year for the seasonal flu? It kills about 60,000-70,000/ year in this country alone (millions world-wide). It mainly strikes the elderly and infirm and, according to recent data, its mortality rate is even higher than the Kung Flu.

If nobody ever left home during the period from October to April every year, we could "save" thousands of lives!!!! It wouldn't even matter that the flu is contagious, because no one would ever get it.

Old people die, day in, day out, year in, year out. Did you know that?
livinglava
 
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Sun 19 Apr, 2020 09:38 am
@layman,
layman wrote:

Why don't we shut down the whole country every year for the seasonal flu? It kills about 60,000-70,000/ year in this country alone (millions world-wide). It mainly strikes the elderly and infirm and, according to recent data, its mortality rate is even higher than the Kung Flu.

If we did shut down the country every flu season, we could "save" thousands of lives!!!! Old people die, day in, day out, year in, year out. Did you know that?

You lack perspective, like most other people who can only think of turbo-charged industrial-consumerism in terms of cultural normativity.

We need exposure to small quantities of a diverse 'balanced diet' of pathogens to keep our immune systems healthy and functioning properly.

Everyone getting flu shots is like everyone driving motor-vehicles and thus undermining their body's natural transportation system that makes them healthy by doing plenty of healthy walking every day.

Flu shots and other vaccinations are for people and diseases that are not easily dealt with by healthy people with good-functioning immune systems.

Right now we are in a major correction for patterns of exposure and widespread immune-system degeneration caused by unhealthy lifestyles. We have to lockdown to protect all the people who have become vulnerable to COVID19 because they don't get enough exercise and normal pathogen exposure for their immune systems to function well. They have destroyed their health through year upon year of shirking exercise and dietary discipline that could have prepared them to survive infection.

Our economy sets people up to be vulnerable to pandemics, whether it is COVID19 or seasonal flus. Some people have to get vaccinations to protect them because they cannot get healthy enough to fight off such infections, just as some people need wheel-chairs, motor-vehicles, and other support machines because they lack natural healthy mobility.

We have built cities and an economy where people shirk normal walking, outdoor exposure to light loads of pathogens, pollens, etc. and thus become health-compromised and more vulnerable to infections. It's no easier or harder to reform these social-economic patterns that have gotten built into our infrastructure and economic patterns than it is for someone who has been sitting sedentary for years to change their lifestyle habits to get in shape and be healthy.
 

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