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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
blatham
 
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Sat 18 Apr, 2020 06:36 am
@snood,
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No, they do not see the man’s dangerous character defects, or, if they see it they deny it or the significance of it.
I'm afraid that's so. The single over-riding metric for these guys is whether or not someone is "owning the libs". Romney fails this test. Bill Kristol fails it too. As does Michael Gerson and and Jennifer Rubin and Max Boot and Steve Schmidt and Nicolle Wallace and countless other conservatives who have and are speaking out against Trump.

It's obviously difficult for many people to shift away from a deeply felt partisan allegiance. It's very much like leaving a cult, I think. Some are fortunate and manage the task somehow but others cannot and go to their graves believing there is a spaceship hiding behind the comet or that the Marharishi has developed a technique that permits you to defy gravity and float in the air or that God put Trump in the white house but was napping when Obama sneaked in.
blatham
 
  2  
Sat 18 Apr, 2020 06:43 am
It just dawned on me that a whole lot of folks my age and older are now going to be far less willing to end up in a seniors care facility.
farmerman
 
  3  
Sat 18 Apr, 2020 06:52 am
@blatham,
Im already on sveral home meetups with my docs. I hve a BP and Blood clotting gizmo that I send data to my Cardiologist.
We live in it now.
livinglava
 
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Sat 18 Apr, 2020 06:53 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

It's obviously difficult for many people to shift away from a deeply felt partisan allegiance. It's very much like leaving a cult, I think. Some are fortunate and manage the task somehow but others cannot and go to their graves believing there is a spaceship hiding behind the comet or that the Marharishi has developed a technique that permits you to defy gravity and float in the air or that God put Trump in the white house but was napping when Obama sneaked in.

I think this same thing a lot about Democrat/socialist ideologies, such as the idea that redistributing money to "close the gap between rich and poor" cannot have any effects that aren't positive in every way.

Another unshakeable Democrat/socialist belief is that higher wages at all levels of employment is always good in every way and that everyone should unionize and push for raises because, hey, there's more money out there to get from all those fat cats hoarding it and not investing it to create more jobs and higher income for all.

Another one is that subsidies/funding is a panacea: problems with health care? subsidize/fund it more and don't worry about driving up prices for the uninsured because they will just get insurance when we expand it more to include them (eventually . . . )
problems with education: subsidize/fund it more and give credit/praise to everyone instead of questioning the quality of student achievement and the general attitude in society toward intellectual culture that results from a public that regards education as a means to an end instead of an educated/intellectual citizenry as an end in itself.

Circulating more money solves all problems in the Democrat/socialist mind. I think it is because they are mostly workers who get paid to serve others, so they figure if they just got paid more to serve more, all the problems of the world would go away because working more is better than working smarter in their eyes, i.e. because it pays more and getting paid more makes everything feel right whether it is or not, right?
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blatham
 
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Sat 18 Apr, 2020 07:22 am
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No doubt there is real concern for the economic and health consequences of an extended shutdown. But Republicans, and Trump in particular, are also thinking about November. If the president knows anything, it’s that his fate rises and falls with the state of the economy. And if he loses his campaign for re-election, then in this polarized environment of nationalized politics, he’s likely to take congressional Republicans down with him.

But I think there’s another element underlying the push to reopen the economy despite the threat it poses to American lives, a dynamic beyond partisanship that explains why much of the conservative political ecosystem, from politicians and donors to activists and media personalities, has joined the fight to end the lockdown.

...If the electoral danger for the Republican Party is that voters will blame the president for high unemployment and mass death — a reasonable fear, given how Trump loudly denied the threat in the face of warnings from inside and outside his administration — then the ideological danger is that it undermines the ideological project that captured the state with President Ronald Reagan and is on the path to victory under Donald Trump...
NYT more here

It would be foolish to ignore this aspect of our situation. The gains made by the anti-government ideologues beginning in the early 70s have been profound. The Supreme Court is merely one example. Had this pandemic not come about, Trump's chances of reelection would have been much higher. People like Mitch McConnell and William Barr and the Koch crowd have little or no affinity for Trump but saw in him a vehicle for something like a final knockout blow to American liberalism, the Democratic Party and the "great society" vision of governance.

And it is very possible they were on the edge of accomplishing this radical mission. Then the pandemic hit. And now it looks likely that the anti-government project will be badly damaged as citizens see the necessity of government that cares for citizens and cares for the well-being of all and see it in a very bleak and clear manner.

We can expect to see them fight tooth and nail to try and recover the ground they had gained. It's going to be very ugly.
blatham
 
  1  
Sat 18 Apr, 2020 07:26 am
@farmerman,
Home meetings are fine. I'm a definite fan of tech that permits us to remain at home and still be connected to care facilities and expertise.

But given the incredibly high rate of pandemic infections at seniors' care facilities, until a robust vaccine is discovered, those facilities are when none of us will want to be (if we ever did want such a thing).
hightor
 
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Sat 18 Apr, 2020 07:38 am
@blatham,
I'm rethinking my plan to spend my waning years in prison for this same reason.
livinglava
 
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Sat 18 Apr, 2020 07:38 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Home meetings are fine. I'm a definite fan of tech that permits us to remain at home and still be connected to care facilities and expertise.

But given the incredibly high rate of pandemic infections at seniors' care facilities, until a robust vaccine is discovered, those facilities are when none of us will want to be (if we ever did want such a thing).

I've read about robots being used to assist elderly people in Japan, but I haven't read anything about assisted walking/sitting/moving devices that allow people with mobility problems to do everything completely by themselves without risk of falling.

I'm surprised there haven't been more experiments with things like walkers that have a harness where you can lower yourself down to sit or step into and out of bathtubs, etc.

It would probably be nice to hang out (literally) in a harness in the kitchen while you cook and not worry about falling or having to go sit down and have your pot boil over.

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Walter Hinteler
 
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Sat 18 Apr, 2020 07:42 am
@blatham,
Conservative activists to demand governors lift stay-home orders – and movement has been driven by wealthy conservative groups

Thousands of Americans backed by rightwing donors gear up for protests
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Thousands of people are preparing to attend protests across the US in the coming days, as a rightwing movement against stay-at-home orders, backed by wealthy conservative groups and promoted by Donald Trump, continues to take hold.
[...]
Yet while organisers claim the protests are grassroots- and people-driven, a closer look reveals a movement driven by traditional rightwing groups, including one funded by the family of Trump’s education secretary, Betsy DeVos.

The rallies have drawn comparisons to the Tea Party movement, which sprang into life in 2009 following the election of Barack Obama and was driven in part by Americans for Prosperity, a group founded by rightwing donors Charles and David Koch.

As with the Tea Party, the anti-stay-at-home movement has been promoted by a rightwing media eager for the economy to reopen, including Fox News which on Friday aired a segment on protests in Virginia, Michigan and Minnesota. Two minutes later, Trump tweeted to his 77.4 million followers the need to “liberate” those states.

A majority of Americans support the lockdowns, with a Pew Research Center poll finding that 66% are concerned state governments will lift restrictions on public activity too quickly. But protests, helped by media coverage, have spread around the country.

The two groups behind the “operation gridlock” rally in Michigan on Wednesday have ties to the Republican party and the Trump administration.

The Michigan Freedom Fund, which said it was a co-host of the rally, has received more than $500,000 from the DeVos family, regular donors to rightwing groups.

The other host, the Michigan Conservative Coalition, was founded by Matt Maddock, now a Republican member of the state house of representatives. The MCC also operates under the name Michigan Trump Republicans, and in January held an event featuring several members of the Trump campaign.

“Absolutely the Michigan event was a huge inspiration and it was a huge success,” said Evie Harris, organizer of a ReOpen Maryland protest planned for the state capitol on Saturday.

“That was the model for our event.”
... ... ...
blatham
 
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Sat 18 Apr, 2020 07:43 am
@hightor,
Pity. I have it on good authority that there's a free-wheeling sexual ethos in both institutions.
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blatham
 
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Sat 18 Apr, 2020 07:49 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Yes. Hopefully they'll lick each others guns and tri-corner hats.
farmerman
 
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Sat 18 Apr, 2020 07:58 am
@blatham,
We have in home care insurance (which is a total ripoff but its abenefit from my company that Ive earned).Were I just a sole proprietor, I would have banked a fixed amount as a med "bank account" and dippd into that for routine at home care. However mot of the problems have been overworked care professionals, thereve been a lot of them infecting a certain amt of their patients
THEN , if were both living , we will , when we say "enough with the farm" buy one of the Cottges at the old farts village like Ware Villge down in Oxford.
ithr that or a double wide on a big lot , or RENT all our land to AMish Farmrs and just live here cause we rally love it. Options, options.
blatham
 
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Sat 18 Apr, 2020 08:07 am
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So evangelicals are about three times as likely to defy restrictions on their worship as non-evangelicals. And the researchers think evangelical traditions and leadership have a lot to do with that defiance:

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Evangelicals have been preparing for this moment. In a 1998 book, sociologist Christian Smith famously referred to evangelicals as “​embattled and thriving,”​ and we can see that embattled mentality on display here. But this view is also currently being stoked by religious elites, with a number of evangelical leaders calling for active resistance against state orders. Christian right legal groups such as Liberty Counsel are ​spoiling for fights;​ other Christian right think tanks are urging resistance, supporting the few individual clergy who are quite open about their mission.

The Rev. Tony Spell, the Louisiana pastor who has been charged with a misdemeanor for keeping his church open, told R​euters​: “The church is the last force resisting the Antichrist. Let us assemble regardless of what anyone says.”


Lord have mercy.
Ed Kilgore (who is a practicing Catholic)
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Sat 18 Apr, 2020 08:11 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
We have in home care insurance
Our insurance companies (both mandatory as well as private) pay of course all "necessary" home visits (which happens during this pandemic more often than usually).
Same is with the "out of hour" practise: there, doctors do even more frequently patients' visits at homes.
revelette3
 
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Sat 18 Apr, 2020 08:11 am
@blatham,
It's a crying travesty we have a President who instead of trying his best to save us, is actively trying to get people killed. In Michigan, one of the States Trump wants to "liberate" the death rate of which they know about is 7% statewide.

https://www.michigan.gov/coronavirus/0,9753,7-406-98163_98173---,00.html

Of course, there is not enough testing so the number is more than likely higher rather than lower.

But hey, seniors just have to sacrifice their lives for Trump.
blatham
 
  1  
Sat 18 Apr, 2020 08:19 am
@farmerman,
Sounds rather idyllic. You could take up watercolor landscapes or writing poetry

Oh wild virus
you breath of breathlessness
you pruner of the prune-faced
you intemperate dictator of my temperature
you glowing corona of the eclipsed soul!

Stuff like that.

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revelette3
 
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Sat 18 Apr, 2020 08:20 am
@Walter Hinteler,
I have an appointment soon with one of my doctors, I have to do it over the phone. I am plumb nervous about it, never done it before. Since I have diabetes and small valve heart disease and hypertension, I haven't been out of the house since early March. Starting to feel it, but I know it is necessary.
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blatham
 
  1  
Sat 18 Apr, 2020 08:20 am
@revelette3,
Damn rev. I'd shoot the bastard if I owned a shooting thing.
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Setanta
 
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Sat 18 Apr, 2020 08:23 am
@revelette3,
Given the number of churches which continue to hold services, and the Republican governors who have not ordered distancing and the suspension of non-essential business operations, Plump is very likely going to kill off those who intend to vote for him.
revelette3
 
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Sat 18 Apr, 2020 08:28 am
@Setanta,
It's not just big churches which continue to meet in person, there are some stores and other such places which continue to have customers with no restrictions. We have a democrat governor in KY and our state is shut down, but I read yesterday about a big mall that is going to open up in one of those southern republican states. (have to look it up, forgot which one at the top of my head.)

My church is very small, so we only had a few members last week. They sat in cars (total of five cars) and the preacher stood on the porch and preached for a short time and then they went home. They didn't have Sunday evening or Wednesday services. There are safe ways to do it. We could copy the schools and do it via the internet for example. But, most of our members are old country people, probably just got the hang of Facetime. I know my dad only has had a smartphone for about five years.
 

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