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@coldjoint,

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Pelosi becomes unhinged when China & WHO are in the crosshairs

What's with the "becomes" thing? Pelosi has early onset dementia.

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@coldjoint,

People trust Pelosi, Fauci, state governors, and the medical community much more than they trust trump on coronavirus. The more he bloviates, the more sjpport he loses. If he wants to win the election, he should just shut up and go play golf. What's he got left? He's sure not going to get any credit for the economy any more.

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Oh oh, I forgot the other Twitter quote in the article.

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coronavirus fight a “Trump recession”

Keep that in mind while she is in SF, with her $24k fridge, and her $13-dollar a pint ice cream refusing to provide more funding for the #PaycheckProtectionProgram that saves jobs. pic.twitter.com/Ttc10JEKZt

— Steve Guest (@SteveGuest) April 18, 2020

That's better.

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@MontereyJack,

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He's sure not going to get any credit for the economy any more.

He sure is, when he brings it back. Even the level right now people are ahead of the game from when Trump took over. You just do not know what you are talking about.

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@MontereyJack,

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People trust Pelosi

According to this article, you're wrong.

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Only 27 percent of people surveyed in a new poll think Democrats should keep Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) as their leader in the House, with nearly half of Democrats surveyed saying the caucus should pick a new chief.

The new American Barometer poll released Thursday by Hill.TV and HarrisX found that just 51 percent of Democrats surveyed think that House Democrats should keep Pelosi as their leader. Forty-nine percent said the caucus should pick a new leader.

Seventy-nine percent of independents said that Pelosi should be replaced, while 91 percent of Republicans said House Democrats should pick a new leader.

The dismal figures come as a number of Democratic candidates and incumbent members of the House refuse to say they will support Pelosi in a vote for the House Speakership.

In June, Politico reported that more than 20 Democratic House candidates have said they would not vote to elect Pelosi to be their party’s leader.

The declarations have raised real questions about whether Pelosi could secure the 218 votes needed on the House floor to become Speaker.

Pelosi has downplayed the issue, saying that she expects to be the next Speaker of the House should Democrats win the majority this fall. Election handicappers see Democrats as having a good chance of taking back the House in November's midterms.

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@Builder,

Builder wrote:

According to this article, you're wrong.

Any idea what changed during the time (more than one year) when this poll was taken?

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@coldjoint,

There is no way we're ahead of when trump took over the smoothly accelerating economy Obama left him. Unemployment is reaching Depression levels. Supply chains are in danger of breaking. a lot of food won't get picked.. It took us ten years and world war production to get us out of the Depression. November is six months away and even a feeble start is realistically at least telpeda relapse of major proportions.wo months away. Economists are looking at at least a year and more probably two to get beyond a feeble startup. Despite Trump;s lies about testing, we still have any a fraction of what we need to be able to test without triggering a relapse of infection. Given trumps handling of the situation so far, he's not gonna make it. Big talk is not a synonym for effective action.

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@Walter Hinteler,

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Any idea what changed during the time (more than one year) when this poll was taken?

I'd say Pelosi is in worse shape, both physically, and mentally.

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@MontereyJack,

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There is no way we're ahead of when trump took over the smoothly accelerating economy Obama left him.

Since the 2007-8 GFC, the "economy" has been on life support from the Federal reserve. The only thing keeping Wall street gamblers afloat, was various quantitative easing handouts.

The actual economy, meaning the jobs market at the bottom end of the financial scale, was doing very well under Trump. He's not the cause of the COVID19 drama, though I'm sure you could find some way to say it's all his fault.

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@coldjoint,

The Repubs provisions went overwhelmingly to those who already have their huge pile. Pelosi is fighing for money for ,hospitals, forthe small businesses that are the backbone of the economy and the real people in need. The GOP demand hurry because the funds the lobbyists can divert are running low.

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@Builder,

when was that poll taken? when it ta;ls about the democrats having a good chance of "taking back the house in Nov.", it sounds like it's from 2018, when she came out strong from a similar litany of nonsupport.

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@Builder,

He cleatly screwed up the government's response to it, which is why we're in the pickle we're in and why he's not getting s\any bounce from his bluster.

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@MontereyJack,

Looked at it again and it's taling about dems likely taking the house in the coming Nov. midterms. Gotta be from 2018 or earlier. Way to keep current builder. She beat the dissidents then and has held trump's toes to the fire ever since and he's not winning any prizes so far in 2020.

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@MontereyJack,

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She ....... has held trump's toes to the fire ever since

You mean the impeachment that wasn't?

Or the Russian "collusion" that went nowhere either?

It's well over three years now, and they went with Sanders and Biden?

Tells me all I need to know about the now-gutted DNC.

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After 4 years of Trump even the most sycophantic of his supporters must see that he's a narcissist who considers himself omnipotent.
So if you're still going to vote for him one can only assume you want to live in a totalitarian state.
In which case why don't you move to a totalitarian state, there are many available, China, Russia, Turkey, Nth Korea, Hungry to name but a few.
It would be better for you, you'd get your god like leader and it would be better for America, the constitution would be saved from the constant attacks it's under from Trump and his cohorts.
Wouldn't it be better all round if Trump and the Republican representatives moved en mass to China or Russia or even Israel. Netanyahu is doing his damnedest to make Israel even more right wing than it already is and he'd surely welcome in a hoard of right wingers like the Republicans.
An added bonus is Israel are already at where Trump and Co want to be, walled borders and the right to shoot unarmed protesters.
Isn't that the Republican dream?, well it's Trumps dream anyway and you sycophant Trump supporters must want what Der Leader wants.

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Fortunately, our founding fathers made provision for this sort of thing:

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(The Congress shall have Power) To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions

Article 1, Section 8, Clause 15

And here, all the while, the gun nutters would have had you believe that the "militia" was designed to protect us from a tyrannical government. Speaker Pelosi, call forth the militia!

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@coldjoint,

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Even the level right now people are ahead of the game from when Trump took over. You just do not know what you are talking about.

So you think that Trumpp should get a medal for continuing the great turnaround and rising (to record) economic numbers (including the STock market), which was the legacy of the Obama administration??

You speak great untruths, just like your president.

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@eurocelticyankee,

eurocelticyankee wrote:

After 4 years of Trump even the most sycophantic of his supporters must see that he's a narcissist who considers himself omnipotent.

Everything else you said in your post is dependent on this flawed premise. No, they do not see the man’s dangerous character defects, or, if they see it they deny it or the significance of it. His continued support from that 35-40% no matter what he says and does depends on those people continuing to be either blind or in denial about his weakness, incompetence and failure in his office and as a person.

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@snood,

Good point but what do you do, you've got to keep hammering away, got to keep saying your piece which they're not shy in doing.

Lets just say i'd like to think that at least some of his most ardent supporters must see that he's a narcissist who considers himself omnipotent.
Especially after this weeks performance.

How's that.

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@eurocelticyankee,

Yeah, I hear you. I’d like to think so, too. And we can’t let them control the narrative, so you’re right that we just have to give it our best shot.

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