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hightor
 
  3  
Sat 4 Apr, 2020 02:20 pm
@coldjoint,
So, how do Schumer and Pelosi qualify as "professional looters"?

Quote:
Looting, also referred to as sacking, ransacking, plundering, despoiling, despoliation, and pillaging, is the indiscriminate taking of goods by force as part of a military or political victory, or during a catastrophe, such as war, natural disaster (where law and civil enforcement are temporarily ineffective), or rioting.


Or is the stupid meme just a ploy to show the urban poor in an unflattering light?
livinglava
 
  -2  
Sat 4 Apr, 2020 02:25 pm
@Wilso,
Wilso wrote:

Basic medical coverage for all is just too hard. Only 31 of the 32 world’s most developed nations have managed to make it work.

When you say, "basic medical coverage," how is it decided what is included and excluded from "basic medical coverage?"

If someone wants more that "basic coverage," can they do anything to achieve more/better?
livinglava
 
  -2  
Sat 4 Apr, 2020 02:31 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

https://i2.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2020/04/Screen-Shot-2020-03-31-at-9.29.21-AM.png?resize=477%2C600&ssl=1
They would actually be helping that way.

The question this raises is what, then, could be the Kindle of toilet paper?

I never understood the concept of the "three sea shells" in the movie, Demolition Man, but maybe the implication was some kind of electronic current/field to ionize whatever is left so it either falls away as ash or gets neutralized/sterilized.

A few years ago there was an appliance that would dry clean a suit using sound waves, which I think was a spin-off of a sonic shower to be used by astronauts in orbit.

So if Newspapers can go electronic, why not toilet paper?
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MontereyJack
 
  3  
Sat 4 Apr, 2020 04:04 pm
@livinglava,
"basic medical coverage" is kind of a misnomer. ALL medical coverage is actually provided, and the public health metrics of those 31 countries are better than ours.
Wilso
 
  2  
Sat 4 Apr, 2020 04:12 pm
@livinglava,
The short version, is that all medical treatment in the public hospital system is 100% free for all citizens and permanent residents.
Builder
 
  1  
Sat 4 Apr, 2020 04:16 pm
@MontereyJack,
In Australia, a 1.25% tax (above a threshold amount) is taken from your net income, to cover the cost of providing health care. Some surgeries (deemed elective) you're put on a waiting list, that can be quite lengthy.

You can opt for private medical cover, but then you're just in a position to move up the queue for certain procedures (again elective) and often find yourself being treated in a public hospital anyways.

Medications are only partially subsidised, and depending on your income status, you might pay less, or more than those on higher income brackets.

So, basically, "free health care" is actually a pre-paid affair, and you'll find this is the case in most western nations.
roger
 
  1  
Sat 4 Apr, 2020 04:26 pm
@Builder,
Thanks for the clarification
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Sat 4 Apr, 2020 04:33 pm
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
those 31 countries are better than ours.

Flights out of the US are available.
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Sat 4 Apr, 2020 04:38 pm
@hightor,
Quote:
So, how do Schumer and Pelosi qualify as "professional looters"?

In a crisis like a violent demonstration people loot. In a medical crisis Democratic politicians loot. Holding out for money not related in anyway to the virus and trying to change voting. They are trying to loot us of our rights while they are at it.
Wilso
 
  5  
Sat 4 Apr, 2020 04:43 pm
There’s little complaint about taxes being used to fund universal healthcare. It’s called “not being a psychopath “
livinglava
 
  -3  
Sat 4 Apr, 2020 04:47 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:

"basic medical coverage" is kind of a misnomer. ALL medical coverage is actually provided, and the public health metrics of those 31 countries are better than ours.

Do they provide free cancer care, diabetes care, blood pressure care, etc.?

All those forms of care are expensive because of pharmaceutical prices, along with the costs of equipment, building costs, etc. that are probably highly regulated in the US to prevent cost-saving and/or practically ignored by business people who simply don't bother cutting corners to save on costs when they know how much money they're going to be getting from insurance companies.

These other countries where these great public health services are provided free of charge, do you have any information about what their costs are? Tax-payers feel better about paying for public services when the cost is low.
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livinglava
 
  -3  
Sat 4 Apr, 2020 04:51 pm
@Wilso,
Wilso wrote:

There’s little complaint about taxes being used to fund universal healthcare. It’s called “not being a psychopath “

Either that or people are afraid to voice complaints/dissent due to retaliation/discrimination they might face for doing so.
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coldjoint
 
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Sat 4 Apr, 2020 04:59 pm
Quote:
Liberal Media Blanket Country With Virus Untruths


Quote:
As Lyndsey Fifield of The Heritage Foundation has documented, one liberal media outlet after another in addition to those listed above have let their hatred for the President to so obsess their coverage over the last three months that time after time after time they were pedaling misinformation, disinformation and all too frequently flat out untruths.

All of this - and oh such much more - has, as noted in this space from time to time, (as here) wound up doing nothing more than repeatedly damaging the credibility of all the news outlets who have indulged their Trump-hatred by playing the disinformation/misinformation game.

The amazing thing is that the liberal media doubtless has no intention of changing their behavior. They would, as it were, rather go down with all anti-Trump flags flying.

And remarkably, courtesy of this global pandemic, they may.

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/jeffrey-lord/2020/04/04/liberal-media-blankets-country-virus-untruths
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Builder
 
  1  
Sat 4 Apr, 2020 05:13 pm
@roger,
Quote:
Thanks for the clarification


I forgot another detail; you can use a public hospital, or a private health clinic that "bulk bills" the government for their costs, or go to a private doctor of your choice, and pay a fee, a fair percentage of which you can claim back yourself.

It sounds a bit complex, but in practice, it works.

Any emergency cases that require immediate hospital treatment are free.

I recently required emergency eye treatment, and could have gone private, at rather expensive costs, but elected to go public, and pay nothing, except for medications, which were surprisingly cheap (and effective).

We don't have the heavily controlled pharmaceutical sector here, and generic forms of all medications are generally easy to source. Pharmacies let you know your options, when filling your prescriptions.
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Wilso
 
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Sat 4 Apr, 2020 05:22 pm
The “pharmaceutical benefits scheme” subsidises the majority of common medications. It keeps them affordable, added to which are various plans that provide greater benefits for those on various pensions/allowances. Pensioners for example (like my parents) pay no more than $5 for a prescription, up to a certain level, after which, they’re free.
The entire upshot is that Australians have far better access to healthcare than the vast majority of Americans.
McGentrix
 
  -3  
Sat 4 Apr, 2020 05:24 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:

"basic medical coverage" is kind of a misnomer. ALL medical coverage is actually provided, and the public health metrics of those 31 countries are better than ours.


Think any of them would be able to do it if they had 300,000,000 more people?
Lash
 
  -1  
Sat 4 Apr, 2020 05:26 pm
@Wilso,
Everybody has better healthcare than Americans. I like the sound of Australia’s. Anybody’s.
blatham
 
  3  
Sat 4 Apr, 2020 05:26 pm
Presently up top at the Washington Post
Quote:
The U.S. was beset by denial and dysfunction as the coronavirus raged
From the Oval Office to the CDC, political and institutional failures cascaded through the system and opportunities to mitigate the pandemic were lost.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2020/04/04/coronavirus-government-dysfunction/?arc404=true
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McGentrix
 
  -2  
Sat 4 Apr, 2020 06:42 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

Everybody has better healthcare than Americans. I like the sound of Australia’s. Anybody’s.


Seriously? That's weak. You may not like the system but far too many people from around the world come to America for healthcare when they need it. Australia has a smaller population than California. Just because something works somewhere else, doesn't mean it will work here.
Builder
 
  1  
Sat 4 Apr, 2020 08:08 pm
@McGentrix,
Quote:
Australia has a smaller population than California.


And a land area larger than mainland US of A.

Quote:
Just because something works somewhere else, doesn't mean it will work here.


It's far from a perfect system, and could certainly use some tweaks, and definitely requires regular oversight (recently removed, for dubious reasons), but I can't see why it couldn't work possibly even better, scaled up a notch or ten.
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