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Brand X
 
  2  
Tue 24 Mar, 2020 10:29 am
@hightor,
He probably told them, 'I don't know if what works on your people will work on my people, but we'll try anything to save my election'.
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revelette3
 
  3  
Tue 24 Mar, 2020 10:33 am
@Lash,
They are surviving but if they don't know they have it, they are spreading it to vulnerable folks. And you're right, it is not just the elderly who are vulnerable to the virus. People with breathing problems, high blood pressure, diabetes, and heart trouble. I got three right there, my husband has two, we are in our middle fifties.
Setanta
 
  3  
Tue 24 Mar, 2020 10:34 am
@hightor,
That article from The Independent says Plump intends to ban travel from Europe, except from the UK. The UK has one of the worst responses to the virus. This is also from The Independent.
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Brand X
 
  3  
Tue 24 Mar, 2020 10:37 am
Ryan Grim
@ryangrim
·
15h
Trump is indeed an insane person for suggesting people go back out again but less than one week ago three huge states insisted on having in person elections in disregard of CDC guidelines.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Tue 24 Mar, 2020 11:11 am
https://comicallyincorrect.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/07-kink-dt-600-600x429.jpg
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Tue 24 Mar, 2020 11:20 am
Quote:
People want to know how Dems will justify $35M for Kennedy Center for Performing Arts in coronavirus stimulus bill

I am one of those people.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ET1pEgkWoAU1p93?format=jpg&name=small
What does that have to do with saving Americans in this crisis? I hope Trump lets people know about this bullshit from his bully pulpit.
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/03/24/people-want-to-know-how-dems-will-justify-35m-for-kennedy-center-for-performing-arts-in-coronavirus-stimulus-bill-900758?utm_campaign=bizpac&utm_content=Newsletter&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_source=Get+Response&utm_term=EMAIL
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Lash
 
  -2  
Tue 24 Mar, 2020 11:21 am
@Brand X,
Logic. So passe.
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Lash
 
  -1  
Tue 24 Mar, 2020 11:22 am
@revelette3,
I was hoping that wouldn't bear mentioning. The stupid are killing the careful.
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Brand X
 
  3  
Tue 24 Mar, 2020 11:26 am
Trump's got to be losing his ass at his properties around the globe if Marriot is losing theirs. No wonder he's on Fox today talking about keeping things open again today.

Quote:
The coronavirus has caused a bigger dent to Marriott International’s business than 9/11 and the financial crisis combined, CEO Arne Sorenson said Tuesday.


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blatham
 
  2  
Tue 24 Mar, 2020 11:29 am
@revelette3,
Well, thank you, doll. She's always been a bookworm and has been writing pretty much daily since she was in her early teens. I was very impressed with the piece. The Coppola intro was bright as heck and I can't recall a treatment of that subject which I might deem better.
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blatham
 
  2  
Tue 24 Mar, 2020 11:36 am
Quote:
Here Are The Pundits And Pols Willing To Trade COVID-19 Deaths [though not their own] For Economic Gains

For weeks, as the novel coronavirus has spread across the globe and infected hundreds of thousands of people, there have been the skeptics — those who say “social distancing,” while proven to slow the spread of COVID-19 and save lives, isn’t worth the economic cost.

President Donald Trump has leaned into that view lately, becoming its most high-profile proponent. “We’re not going to let the cure be worse than the problem,” he said at a press briefing Monday. Later, referring to social distancing, he added that there would be “probably more death from that than anything we’re talking about with respect to the virus.”

But pundits and politicians prioritizing the tanking market over pandemic response is a weeks-old custom by now.

The notion was perhaps first articulated for a mass audience in the United States by Rick Santelli, the CNBC pundit who also infamously declared the start of a new “Tea Party” on the floor of the Chicago Mercantile Exchange in 2009.

“Maybe we’d be just better off if we gave it to everybody and then in a month it would be over,” Santelli said on-air on March 6. “Because the mortality rate of this probably isn’t going to be any different if we did it that way than the long-term picture, but the difference is we’re wreaking havoc on global and domestic economies.”

In reality, there’s a huge difference: If cases spike all at once, hospitals will be completely overwhelmed, leading to mass death that could otherwise be avoided if cases spread slowly, allowing hospitals to keep up with the disease.

As the tolls of social distancing on domestic and global markets have grown over time, the calls for abandoning the strategy have become more bracing.

On Sunday night, Fox News host Steve Hilton said it was easy for the U.S. government’s top infectious disease expert Anthony Fauci to encourage “overreacting” to COVID-19 — because “he’ll still have a job at the end of this, whatever happens.”

“Our ruling class and their TV mouthpieces whipping up fear over this virus, they can afford an indefinite shutdown,” Hilton, a former advisor to British Prime Minister David Cameron, said. “Working Americans can’t, they’ll be crushed by it. You know that famous phrase, ‘The cure is worse than the disease’? That is exactly the territory we are hurtling towards.”

Hilton compared the COVID-19 response, bafflingly, to British austerity measures, which one study found were to blame for 130,000 otherwise-avoidable deaths between 2012 and 2017. “The years of austerity for America to pay the costs for this shutdown will be worse,” he said.

Around the same time, former Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein tweeted that “extreme measures” to slow the virus’ spread were sensible — “for a time.”

“But crushing the economy, jobs and morale is also a health issue-and beyond,” he added. “Within a very few weeks let those with a lower risk to the disease return to work.”

And when the President echoed Hilton’s language on Sunday night, tweeting that, “WE CANNOT LET THE CURE BE WORSE THAN THE PROBLEM ITSELF,” the floodgates opened.

In perhaps the harshest rendition of this argument, one that’s since been erased from the internet, the California attorney Scott A. McMillan tweeted about the “fundamental problem” of social distancing for the sake of the sick and vulnerable.

“The fundamental problem is whether we are going to tank the entire economy to save 2.5% of the population which is (1) generally expensive to maintain, and (2) not productive,” he wrote, soliciting a barrage of criticism for effectively waiving away the deaths of eight million people.

“Reality check,” Rep. Jody Hice (R-GA) tweeted the next morning. “- Booming economy, gone -Businesses closing -Unemployment soaring -Hysteria & fear rule.”

“Which is worse, the illness or our ‘fix’? Americans stand up to challenges,” he added. “Don’t succumb to fear! Trust in God. Protect yourself and others, and move forward!”

The White House’s top economic thinker, Larry Kudlow, who’s been consistently wrong in his public remarks about COVID-19, staked another bold claim Monday.

“We can’t shut in the economy, the economic costs to individuals is just too great,” he said on CNBC, adding: “The President is right, the cure can’t be worse than the disease, and we’re going to have to make some difficult trade-offs.”

In an interview with Fox News’ Tucker Carlson Monday night, the 69-year-old Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick played martyr, saying “I don’t want the whole country to be sacrificed” for the sake of slowing the disease’s spread.

“Those of us who are 70+, we’ll take care of ourselves but don’t sacrifice the country,” he added. “Don’t do that. Don’t ruin this great American Dream.”

“There’s something that would be worse than dying?” Carlson pressed. The lieutenant governor hemmed and hawed, but eventually made his point clear: “I intend to be around a long time on your show, but it’s worth whatever it takes to save the country.”

And on Tuesday, Stuart Varney, the Fox Business Network host, made the point by animating “the market” into a living being — one whose thriving ought to be weighed against potentially thousands of its fellow citizens.

“Concentrate your restrictions on the elderly and those with underlying medical conditions who are most at risk,” he proposed. “That will be an easing of restrictions, but an imposition of more restrictions on that risk group.”

“That’s a potential compromise here,” Varney said. “And that’s what the market likes.”
tpm
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Lash
 
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Tue 24 Mar, 2020 11:36 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

Quote:
...a lot of people get their news from one source they're comfortable with...

True but even single sources of news compile multiple stories and reports in order to maintain a level of audience interest.

So you have no complaints about Fox News. You tried too hard to act like you aren't in your bubble.
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blatham
 
  2  
Tue 24 Mar, 2020 11:38 am
India, population 1.3 billion, now under total lockdown for three weeks (at least).
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Brand X
 
  2  
Tue 24 Mar, 2020 11:43 am
Matt Stoller
@matthewstoller
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11m
Boeing shares up 15% on the obvious bailout coming in the Mnuchin/McConnell bill.
coldjoint
 
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Tue 24 Mar, 2020 11:56 am
@Brand X,
Quote:
on the obvious bailout coming in the Mnuchin/McConnell bill.

Please show us the obvious bailout in the bill like I have shown the crap Democrats want. Can Matt do that? If it is so obvious, it should not be a problem.
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Tue 24 Mar, 2020 12:05 pm
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McGentrix
 
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Tue 24 Mar, 2020 12:15 pm
@Brand X,
Brand X wrote:

Matt Stoller
@matthewstoller
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11m
Boeing shares up 15% on the obvious bailout coming in the Mnuchin/McConnell bill.


Is this bad? Your posting makes it seem bad. I don't think it's bad.
Brand X
 
  2  
Tue 24 Mar, 2020 12:20 pm
@McGentrix,
Note even hiding it.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ET5NGswXkAEHgCn?format=jpg&name=small
McGentrix
 
  -2  
Tue 24 Mar, 2020 12:23 pm
@Brand X,
Boeing employs 153,027 people. Why don't you give each of them a call and explain why they are bad people for expecting a government bailout.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Tue 24 Mar, 2020 12:33 pm
@Brand X,
Quote:
Note even hiding it.

You know what else they are not hiding? How many Americans depend on paychecks issued by Boeing. What is a matter with you people? Huge companies need to survive that is the way it works.
 

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