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blatham
 
  2  
Fri 20 Mar, 2020 04:55 am
I never thought I'd say Hoorah for nationalist fervor but...
Quote:
Search for Coronavirus Vaccine Becomes a Global Competition

The United States, China and Europe are battling to be the first to find a cure, bringing a nationalist element to a worldwide crisis.
NYT
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Brand X
 
  1  
Fri 20 Mar, 2020 04:59 am
Trump and Co. went to the left of Pelosi and the Dems on payments to citizens. All this Republican socialism is amazing, how we gonna pay for it???

Adam SerwerSpaghetti
@AdamSerwer
· 12h
The Dem leadership should listen to Katie Porter. The obsession with means testing while the economy is imploding is insane. https://theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/03/katie-porter-talks-covid-19-pelosi-and-congress-role/608314/



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hightor
 
  4  
Fri 20 Mar, 2020 05:04 am
No Empathy, Only Anger

Those seeking to support Trump’s party line need an excuse for their months of denial and deception—and they’ve found it.

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On the evening of June 21, 1941, American Communists went to bed subject to one party line. At the sun set, Britain was fighting an imperialist war against Germany, about which the United States must remain neutral.

American Communists awoke on June 22, 1941, to discover the party line abruptly changed. Hitler had invaded the Soviet Union. Now the war was a struggle between democracy and fascism, one the United States must immediately join.

The personalities on Fox News executed a similarly abrupt and total pivot on March 13, 2020. The Washington Post produced a stark before/after anthology of the same hosts saying precisely opposite things a few days apart.

Yet the many weeks of denial have had their effect. An Economist poll released March 18 found that only 38 percent of Fox News viewers took the virus seriously, half as many as among MSNBC and CNN viewers. For Trump’s sake, Fox risked the lives of its own audience.

Like the old Moscow-line Communists, the upholders of the Trump party line now need an excuse for their long history of denial and deception. They insisted it was not Trump’s fault that he, and they, squandered precious weeks and that his administration is suddenly dithering and failing. No, no, Trump's failure was China’s fault! Did video evidence contradict the Trump party line? They accused anyone who recalled the truth of repeating Chinese propaganda.

The Trump party line swaps new lies for old. Whereas once the ideological enforcers called concern over the virus a hoax, now they say that it’s a hoax to remember they said it was a hoax.

The Atlantic has been pulled into the crosshairs of the new lies that replaced the old lies in a retweet by the president himself. In response to an article that documented how China’s official lying had aggravated the crisis in that country, and lamented that Trump’s official lying had done the same here, the president’s Twitter feed repeated a slur that The Atlantic “spews communist China’s propaganda.” This from a man who as a private citizen condoned the Tiananmen Square massacre, and who as president praised the mass-murdering Kim Jong Un as “one in 10,000.”

Trump wants Americans to call the novel coronavirus “the Chinese virus.” Trump’s new slogan aims at two goals.

The first goal is to shift blame away from Trump’s failures and onto China’s. This goal is very unlikely to succeed. We all saw Trump’s catastrophic misjudgments inflict their toll in real time. It was not the Chinese Communist Party that decided to host a cash-for-access party at Mar-a-Lago for Donald Trump Jr.’s girlfriend on the weekend of March 6–8, when a responsible president would have already begun modeling safe behavior. It was not the Chinese Communist Party that closed trans-Atlantic aviation and made no provision to receive throngs of returning Americans—exposing air travelers to hours of penned-in close contact with visibly sick people. It was not the Chinese Communist Party that urged Americans to buy stocks at the end of February, devastating the savings of anyone foolish enough to trust financial advice from Larry Kudlow, Eric Trump, or this president.

No, Trump won’t succeed in shifting blame.

It’s the second goal that could succeed. By revving up hate among their supporters against China, Trump and Fox can redirect those supporters’ rage from the dangerous target it might otherwise find: the trusted political and media figures who lied and lied and lied to them, exposing those supporters to disease and death for their own crass ends. Hate China, not me!

A president who sincerely mistrusted China would not have to resort to name-calling after the fact. He would have acted decisively, in good time. Instead, Trump relied on China to do his job for him. Trump tweeted on January 24: "China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!” It was Trump and Fox, not the independent media, who repeated Chinese propaganda and put Americans at risk.

A personal note: I was a target of one of Trump’s key media allies on Fox on Tuesday night, Tucker Carlson. Carlson has played an interestingly complex role on the Fox network. On the one hand, he was the first Fox host to speak some measure of truth about the virus, on Monday, March 9, two days after the infection-spreading birthday party at Mar-a-Lago. On the other hand, Carlson is the most explicit of Fox’s race-baiters, the Fox personality furthest from traditional conservatism and nearest to the new alt-right. Carlson is the main voice on Fox for Russian state propaganda, not only about Ukraine but even about such boutique issues as Montenegro. Carlson escapes the dilemma by attributing Trump-administration decisions to everybody except Trump himself, even blaming the Vanity Fair reporter who interviewed him instead of the president of the United States. “If you believe that the current paralysis is all Trump’s fault, you’re absolving an awful lot of guilty parties, maybe including yourself.”

Anyway, the personal bit:

China’s ambassadors are already spreading the lie that the Wuhan virus originated here in America, maybe created in a lab by the Pentagon. Don’t be shocked if at least one American media outlet promotes that idea. Many of them are already parroting the rest of the Chinese Communist Party line. A week ago, aging propagandist David Frum of The Atlantic suggested calling the coronavirus, quote, “The Trump plague” instead of the Wuhan virus.

What’s notable here is not the reference to me, but that Carlson builds his case against America’s independent media by citing something that has not happened: no reputable media organization has repeated China’s claim that the virus originated in the United States. When I tweeted March 9, “Wuhan virus or Trump plague?,” I was referencing not Carlson’s fantasy about what the media might say, but the hard fact that Trump had exposed Republican National Committee Chair Ronna McDaniel and other dignitaries to the coronavirus by proceeding with his weekend at Mar-a-Lago. Sadly, Carlson himself was one of those also exposed by Trump’s irresponsibility.

While Trump, Fox, and Carlson try to redirect the anger of the people they betrayed, it’s worth noticing something strikingly absent from the speeches and writings of this administration and its Trump-line network: a word of sympathy or compassion for the thousands of Americans getting sick and dying on this president’s watch, as a result of this president’s neglect of his duties. They’re not capable of such language. They gain power by targeting outsiders. A virus is the ultimate outsider, but it’s not a very satisfying target for rage. Only human beings will do, human beings marked in some way as different: by nationality, by ethnicity, by race.

After the 9/11 attacks, President George W. Bush made an early visit to a Washington mosque. He spoke feelingly against bigotry, and helped curb the rash of hate crimes that erupted in the fall of 2001.

Trump and his party-line media do not do that. They cannot do that. That would take empathy—and empathy might dangerously remind Americans of the tragic cost of Trump’s mismanagement and absent leadership. Rage is all they feel, so rage is all they can express. Hatred fills their hearts, so hatred fills their mouths. The government and the government-line television network are, for the time being, in the charge of broken souls. Those broken souls are breaking a nation.

atlantic
blatham
 
  1  
Fri 20 Mar, 2020 05:24 am
@hightor,
Quote:
The Trump party line swaps new lies for old. Whereas once the ideological enforcers called concern over the virus a hoax, now they say that it’s a hoax to remember they said it was a hoax.

Right on, Frum.
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blatham
 
  2  
Fri 20 Mar, 2020 05:31 am
Seriously?!
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The Agriculture Department said Wednesday that it would appeal a judge’s ruling that it would be “arbitrary and capricious” to move forward during a global health crisis with food stamp changes that could force hundreds of thousands from the program.

Federal Judge Beryl Howell, in a ruling late last week, stopped a set of changes that would have taken effect on April 1. On Wednesday, an Agriculture Department spokesperson responded to an Associated Press query with a terse email saying only that “USDA disagrees with the court’s reasoning and will appeal its decision.”
AP
As Paul Waldman puts it...
"Just because there’s a public health crisis and a recession happening doesn’t mean the hard work of making families go hungry should cease."
blatham
 
  3  
Fri 20 Mar, 2020 06:09 am
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“China must be held accountable,” Hannity said, accusing the foreign country’s leaders of "[caring] more about optics than the lives of not only their own citizens, but the world community."
WP

This of course is precisely what Trump and Fox have been doing every day. The propaganda strategy here is to minimize or cancel the perception of that by accusing another/others of doing it. It is one of the most common tricks right wing propagandists have put to regular use.
McGentrix
 
  -2  
Fri 20 Mar, 2020 06:26 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

Rage is all they feel, so rage is all they can express. Hatred fills their hearts, so hatred fills their mouths.


Irony?

Otherwise, typical TDS from the left.
Brand X
 
  1  
Fri 20 Mar, 2020 08:54 am
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The Trump administration asked states to abstain from releasing unemployment-claims figures prior to the publication of a national compilation of weekly U.S. jobless claims, according to a state labor department official.


https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-administration-ask-states-to-keep-quiet-about-jobless-figures-11584676698?mod=hp_lead_pos3
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livinglava
 
  -2  
Fri 20 Mar, 2020 09:03 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Seriously?!
Quote:
The Agriculture Department said Wednesday that it would appeal a judge’s ruling that it would be “arbitrary and capricious” to move forward during a global health crisis with food stamp changes that could force hundreds of thousands from the program.

Federal Judge Beryl Howell, in a ruling late last week, stopped a set of changes that would have taken effect on April 1. On Wednesday, an Agriculture Department spokesperson responded to an Associated Press query with a terse email saying only that “USDA disagrees with the court’s reasoning and will appeal its decision.”
AP
As Paul Waldman puts it...
"Just because there’s a public health crisis and a recession happening doesn’t mean the hard work of making families go hungry should cease."

Who makes families go hungry? Food stamps and other subsidies often end up subsidizing other, non-food expenditures such as electric bills, car payments, rent, clothing, etc.

All those other bills that cut down people's food budgets are high due to a combination of people not managing their own money well and landlords/retailers/etc. taking advantage of people not managing their money well.

So when the government subsidizes food, it is a benefit in one sense, but in another sense it is subsidizing exploitative businesses that are colluding with consumers to sell unnecessary products and services that drive up prices overall and end up cutting into people's food budgets as a result.

So solving these problem involves a chicken-egg challenge of what comes first, more affordable food or more affordable rent/clothes/transportation/etc. or consumers' budgeting their own money better by choosing less expensive options and making sacrifices such as keeping the same clothes longer, hang-drying laundry instead of using a dryer, cooking more instead of going out to eat, taking transit or walking/biking instead of driving, managing their own household repairs instead of running their house into the ground and then abandoning it to a landlord who then has to spend a lot refurbishing it for the next careless tenant, etc. etc.
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farmerman
 
  2  
Fri 20 Mar, 2020 09:19 am
@blatham,
Hannity should resign and go to work for some other baseboard news service. H e wa the one who convinced Trump that "we have this all under control, nothing to worry about"

Now, without Hannity' help Trump said that "I knew this was a pandemic even before the experts"

Im not even sure that the news outlets even tally Trumps lies anymore.




Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Fri 20 Mar, 2020 09:26 am
@McGentrix,
We were told to Bbehave or face a strict coronavirus lockdown, many, espeically the younger ones, didn't do so.
The state of Bavaria gets a (kind of) curfew from midnight onward, the state of Saarland will follow, other states hopefully, too.

As of 10:00h today, we got 13,957 confirmed cases of COVID-19 (a plus of 2,958 to yesterday's figures) and 31 deatgs.
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hightor
 
  4  
Fri 20 Mar, 2020 10:02 am
@McGentrix,
I didn't write that piece, David Frum did. I did write this.

So why are Trump and top officials in his administration persisting in referring to the "Chinese" or "Wuhan" virus? What purpose does it serve other than to demonize the country and its citizens? Come on, you guys love to do this. Remember how you all criticized #44 for not explicitly identifying terrorists as "Islamic"? I think you're doing the same thing here, only with a country instead of a religion.

Edit: I'm not opposed to criticism of the Chinese government for its initial instinct to hide the emergence of the new disease and silence doctors. That should be pointed out, and can be accomplished using the name given to the virus by the World Health Organization.
maporsche
 
  3  
Fri 20 Mar, 2020 10:26 am
@Brand X,
I don't know that I've posted this here yet, maybe I have, but it's important to note the than any increases you are seeing in COVID isn't necessarily due to the virus spreading (though it certainly has) but it's due rather to the number of tests being taken.

https://covidtracking.com/us-daily/?fbclid=IwAR11RnDydQ4YSYrUYIH6_coTQnOsYoVKRy0yQ3EfZkMoiFaWEkh-wsUReJA

If you look at the last couple days for example.

March 15 - 3.2k cases, 28k tests given
March 16 - 846 new cases, 13.8k new tests (6%)
March 17 - 1704 new cases, 13.2k new tests (13%)
March 18 - 2008 new cases, 21.5k new tests (9%)
March 19 - 3992 new cases, 27.3k new tests (15%)

These new cases are mostly coming because thousands and thousands of more tests are being done each day.

Brand X
 
  1  
Fri 20 Mar, 2020 10:31 am
@maporsche,
Yes, I knew that was the factor, thanks.
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Fri 20 Mar, 2020 10:33 am
@hightor,
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Remember how you all criticized #44 for not explicitly identifying terrorists as "Islamic"? I think you're doing the same thing here, only with a country instead of a religion.

That criticism was because Obama was not telling the truth. Islam is a hate filled religion. People wanted the truth. The virus came from China, that is the truth, and now people are getting it. If the truth demonizes a country, that is the way it goes.
hightor
 
  3  
Fri 20 Mar, 2020 10:49 am
@coldjoint,
Quote:
Obama called it a "sort of manufactured" issue.

"There is no doubt, and I've said repeatedly, where we see terrorist organizations like al Qaeda or ISIL -- They have perverted and distorted and tried to claim the mantle of Islam for an excuse for basically barbarism and death," he said.

"These are people who've killed children, killed Muslims, take sex slaves, there's no religious rationale that would justify in any way any of the things that they do," he said. "But what I have been careful about when I describe these issues is to make sure that we do not lump these murderers into the billion Muslims that exist around the world, including in this country, who are peaceful, who are responsible, who, in this country, are fellow troops and police officers and fire fighters and teachers and neighbors and friends."

The President compared using the term to if a Christian were a murderer but claiming their religion in their actions.

"If you had an organization that was going around killing and blowing people up and said, 'We're on the vanguard of Christianity.' As a Christian, I'm not going to let them claim my religion and say, 'you're killing for Christ.' I would say, that's ridiculous," Obama said.

"That's not what my religion stands for. Call these folks what they are, which is killers and terrorists," he added.


Everyone knows where the virus originated. As I said, if you want to criticize the Chinese government, feel free. But demonizing a country isn't a "truth" — it's propaganda. And like most propaganda it serves to deflect people's attention from the facts that would-be authoritarians would prefer not to hear.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Fri 20 Mar, 2020 10:57 am
@hightor,
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As I said, if you want to criticize the Chinese government, feel free. But demonizing a country isn't a "truth" — it's propaganda.

Who runs China? Who represents the country? The Chinese government does both those things. If the truth about China demonizes them, then it does.
livinglava
 
  0  
Fri 20 Mar, 2020 11:07 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Quote:
As I said, if you want to criticize the Chinese government, feel free. But demonizing a country isn't a "truth" — it's propaganda.

Who runs China? Who represents the country? The Chinese government does both those things. If the truth about China demonizes them, then it does.

You have no proof that "the Chinese government" does anything any more than you have proof that President Trump runs the USA. Of course you can say they both represent their respective countries, but that is because representation is superficial.

But as far as who 'runs' China or any other country, you don't have access to enough information to know any truth beyond what you take for granted based on common assumptions and/or the conspiracy theories that contradict them (your own or others').
revelette3
 
  2  
Fri 20 Mar, 2020 11:18 am
@hightor,
I sure miss that man and wish we had him now during these crises to reassure us during this time.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Fri 20 Mar, 2020 11:29 am
@livinglava,
Quote:
you don't have access to enough information to know any truth

The truth is the virus originated in China and they fucked up royally. I am not interested in excuses.
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