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Brand X
 
  4  
Thu 19 Mar, 2020 04:32 am
@coldjoint,
Another reason for you to go on a cruise, in fact you should organize one including 6,000 of your MAGA nation buddies. You could call it the MAGA Virus Hoax Cruise featuring ODS, and there would be no comorbidity guaranteed! No health risks whatsoever! Do it!
blatham
 
  5  
Thu 19 Mar, 2020 05:48 am
I suppose we ought to note that Republicans, for some unknown/unexplainable reason, are not presently crying "Bailout!!!" when there is a Republican in the WH. There's gotta be a reason but can't quite figure it out.
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blatham
 
  6  
Thu 19 Mar, 2020 05:52 am
Our polls are tanking. The economy is going to ****. Too many voters hate us. What do we do?
Quote:
Trump, who spent weeks downplaying the risk posed by the virus before recently taking a more aggressive approach, continued his shift in tone as he compared the government’s posture to a military operation.

It’s a war,” Trump said of the effort to combat the pandemic. He likened himself to a “wartime president.
WP

Let's try rebranding. Karl Rove did it when Bush was cratering and it worked for him.
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blatham
 
  6  
Thu 19 Mar, 2020 05:57 am
Quote:
There is no new Trump - George Conway

If you think you’ve been hearing a different President Trump this week — more accepting of the reality of the coronavirus pandemic — don’t be fooled. The new Trump is the same as the old Trump. He can’t help it. He’s incapable of taking responsibility for his role in this crisis — and thus incapable of leading us out of it.

After weeks of denial and deflection, a seemingly chastened Trump on Monday conceded that the virus was, in fact, “not under control,” and was, indeed, “a very bad one.” What caused the switch in tone? Who knows? Perhaps it was the largest one-day point drop in the Dow Jones in history on Monday. Perhaps it was a study the White House received saying that 2.2 million Americans could die. Perhaps it was that Trump’s beloved Mar-a-Lago is getting a coronavirus-necessitated deep cleaning.

But the sudden shift can’t conceal the fact that Trump has shown himself to be wholly inept at dealing with the pandemic. It doesn’t change the fact that he puts himself first, always. It doesn’t alter the fact that, as he once told top aides, he thinks of “each presidential day as an episode in a television show in which he vanquishes rivals.” It doesn’t dissolve Trump’s compulsion to lie, even when truth would serve him best. It doesn’t diminish his incompetence, ignorance or propensity for administrative chaos...


oralloy
 
  -3  
Thu 19 Mar, 2020 06:24 am
@blatham,
While Mr. Trump is busy trying to save our lives, progressives are busy trying to undermine him.
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Walter Hinteler
 
  5  
Thu 19 Mar, 2020 09:25 am
Will there be a coronation ceremony for the Wartime President?
oralloy
 
  -1  
Thu 19 Mar, 2020 09:44 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Yes. January 20th.

There might not be a large crowd this time though, depending on how things are going with COVID-19.
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revelette3
 
  6  
Thu 19 Mar, 2020 10:13 am
Trump just can't help himself, even during this global Pandemic crises, he has to create hate and division. He just can't function without an enemy to point to in hate. Calling the coronavirus, the "China virus" is just hurtful, unnecessary, divisive and destructive.

China reports no new cases, we could learn from them, but no, our President has to do his hate routine, to deflect from his horrible job in dealing with the Pandemic in the beginning by calling a leftist hoax.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Thu 19 Mar, 2020 10:20 am
@Brand X,
Quote:
and there would be no comorbidity guaranteed!

Comorbidity is a fact. If you cannot handle that fact and have to make up crap like the hoax Trump never mentioned, go right ahead. There are enough simpletons here that agree with your crap. But, that does not make it true.
oralloy
 
  -4  
Thu 19 Mar, 2020 10:27 am
@revelette3,
revelette3 wrote:
Calling the coronavirus, the "China virus" is just hurtful, unnecessary, divisive and destructive.

I don't see the harm.
livinglava
 
  -3  
Thu 19 Mar, 2020 10:30 am
@revelette3,
revelette3 wrote:

Trump just can't help himself, even during this global Pandemic crises, he has to create hate and division. He just can't function without an enemy to point to in hate. Calling the coronavirus, the "China virus" is just hurtful, unnecessary, divisive and destructive.

China reports no new cases, we could learn from them, but no, our President has to do his hate routine, to deflect from his horrible job in dealing with the Pandemic in the beginning by calling a leftist hoax.

He has the job of representing such things so that there can be public comment about them.

Otherwise such things would just circulate privately around the population and fester without coming to the surface to be reflected upon.

If you look at heads of state and other governmental representatives around the world who just present a totally PC image, they may be representing constituents/citizens who are saying all sorts of racist/sexist/classist/nationalist/hateful things and their governments are just working hard to keep them hidden in the shadows and protect their economic interests.
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revelette3
 
  7  
Thu 19 Mar, 2020 10:31 am
@coldjoint,
Like Trump, you try to rewind history despite the age of the internet.

Quote:
Facts First: From January until last week, Trump consistently minimized the risk the coronavirus posed to the country. He claimed to have the virus under "control," that the number of US cases would go "down, not up," that the virus might "disappear" through a "miracle" or something of the sort, that the virus might well vanish by April with the warmer weather, that the media and Democrats were overhyping the situation, and that "this is their new hoax," leaving it unclear whether he was calling the virus itself a hoax. (He later said he was talking about Democrats' coronavirus-related criticism, not the virus.)


https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/17/politics/fact-check-trump-always-knew-pandemic-coronavirus/index.html

The words with quote marks are links embedded at the source if you care to look it up.
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Thu 19 Mar, 2020 10:32 am
@revelette3,
Quote:
Calling the coronavirus, the "China virus" is just hurtful, unnecessary, divisive and destructive.

It is the truth. Why do you and so many others want to hide the truth? What possible good do you think you are doing denying reality?
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Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Thu 19 Mar, 2020 10:36 am
@oralloy,
Well, we all remember the US-virus.
oralloy
 
  -4  
Thu 19 Mar, 2020 10:38 am
@Walter Hinteler,
What one was that?
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izzythepush
 
  3  
Thu 19 Mar, 2020 10:55 am
@Walter Hinteler,
You're going to have to be more specific. He only listens to conspiracy theories that involve apes in Ganymede and other similar nonsense. There are other wacky theories out there not created by the likes of Alex Jones

Quote:
AIDS was developed by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) to kill off African Americans and gays


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4265931/

And that's no different from calling Covid 19 the China/Wuhan virus.
oralloy
 
  -3  
Thu 19 Mar, 2020 11:04 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
He only listens to conspiracy theories that involve apes in Ganymede and other similar nonsense.

Speak for yourself. I don't listen to any conspiracy theories at all. That's why I'm not ignorant enough to distrust GMO food.
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Walter Hinteler
 
  5  
Thu 19 Mar, 2020 11:31 am
Quote:
There was another example in the briefing Thursday morning. Trump raised the drug chloroquine, an anti-malarial that some doctors are optimistic can be used to treat covid-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus.

“This has been used in different forms, a very powerful drug in different forms, and it's shown very encouraging, very, very encouraging early results,” Trump said. “We're going to be able to make that drug available almost immediately. That's where the FDA has been so great. They've gone through the approval process. It's been approved. And they did it. They took it down from many, many months to immediate. So we're going to be able to make that drug available by prescription or states."

Good news — but not accurate news.

“It’s already approved, as the president said, for the treatment of malaria, as well as an arthritis condition,” FDA Commissioner Steven Hahn said a few minutes later. “That’s a drug that the president has directed us to take a closer look at as to whether an expanded-use approach to that could be done to actually see if that benefits patients.”

In other words, this could be useful, but it hasn’t yet been approved for treatment of covid-19 broadly, despite Trump’s claim.

Again, this pattern — great news followed by more sober revelations — has played out repeatedly since Trump’s prime time speech from the Oval Office last Wednesday.
WP
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livinglava
 
  -1  
Thu 19 Mar, 2020 11:36 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

Well, we all remember the US-virus.

To be fair, a lot of negative things are attributed to the US because of global anti-Americanism that actually go beyond the US.

There are a lot of people around the world scapegoating the US so they can pretend their own nation-states are relative utopias and free of any blame for global problems that have emerged and evolved through the centuries.

Just as China is probably not exclusively to blame for the emergence of COVID19, neither is the US or any other national category exclusively to blame for anything, yet it happens all the time because part of nationalistic culture is blaming and exonerating nations as a whole for problems instead of looking at the deeper and more complex realities that go beyond the level of simple national-attribution.
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Thu 19 Mar, 2020 11:50 am
Shooting in central Pennsylvania:
https://apnews.com/6c67aed3785dc9d40a8eb4481f4a2633

Unclear (as of the time I'm posting this) whether this is an ongoing shooting spree, or if the shooting has concluded.

Also unclear how bad the injuries are.
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