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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Wed 18 Mar, 2020 04:06 pm
@snood,
Quote:
What would you consider an appropriate response to a situation in which a defeated democratic president simply refused to give up his office?

Nobody has done that and Trump will not be the first. To even say that is stupid, then ask a dumb question is expected. TDS. Trump follows the law.
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roger
 
  2  
Wed 18 Mar, 2020 04:12 pm
@snood,
Maybe I'm a little naive, but I believe he is mistaken if he believes he can count on military support - commander in chief, or not.
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Setanta
 
  2  
Wed 18 Mar, 2020 04:25 pm
Just heard on the radio that, despite today's securities climb, the recent free-fall of the markets has wiped out all of the gains since the fat boy was inaugurated.
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Setanta
 
  1  
Wed 18 Mar, 2020 04:29 pm
According to CNBC, the decline to pre-Plump levels was a brief event, but nevertheless, the markets remain at a level nearly wiping out Plump's bragging about his economic "miracle."

Source

There are numerous articles about this today. It was thought that the market would rise further, and the fat boy needs that to prop up his phony image on the economy.
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Brand X
 
  2  
Wed 18 Mar, 2020 05:00 pm
'They' say the floor might be Dow 15,000 but the way virus case numbers are exploding it could go lower, hope not. We have surpassed South Korea and France in case numbers and South Korea in Covid19 related deaths.

Ugh
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Brand X
 
  2  
Wed 18 Mar, 2020 05:26 pm
Lee Fang
@lhfang
·
8m
Holy ****, Boeing spent *$43 billion* on stock buybacks, helping more than double its stock price in 2017-2018, enriching shareholders, only to meltdown from its mass produced faulty planes and the current coronavirus crisis. Now they need a bailout?
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blatham
 
  3  
Wed 18 Mar, 2020 05:56 pm
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Trump is frantically rewriting his epic failures. Don’t let him.

In retrospect, it’s now clear that when President Trump defiantly declared that “I don’t take responsibility at all” for key aspects of his catastrophic response to the coronavirus, he meant it both seriously and literally.

Two new developments drive this home with great clarity. Trump just rolled out a remarkably dishonest effort to rewrite the early history of this pandemic, and to blame the media for his own failings — at exactly the moment that a new report in the New York Times has now illustrated those failures in extraordinarily damning detail.

When Trump declared that “I don’t take responsibility at all,” he meant it seriously, in that this was more than a mere passing effort to dodge one reporter’s tough question. Rather, it was a clear statement of purpose and intent: Trump will not take responsibility for whatever we learn about his government’s failures, no matter how bad they are established to be.

Trump also meant this literally, in that he literally does not believe it’s his responsibility to effectively manage this response, and literally does not believe he is responsible for the consequences that will now unfold, which may end up proving unbearably awful.

“I always treated the Chinese Virus very seriously, and have done a very good job from the beginning,” Trump just tweeted, hailing his early decision to restrict travel from China. “Many lives were saved. The Fake News new narrative is disgraceful & false!”

This effort to erase the early history of the response is concerted and deliberate. It has been wholeheartedly embraced by some of his leading media propagandists. This rewriting effort will continue, and it will grow worse. Trump is set to hold a news conference on Wednesday, and when pressed about various failings, he will surely falsify key aspects of what really happened.

A damning report
On that score, the new report from the Times is nothing short of infuriating. Among its key revelations:

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- Numerous states made frantic early requests for equipment and help that went largely unheard and unmet. It was only last week, after an internal report shook up officials with its harrowing predictions of 18 months of hardships ahead, that the federal government pivoted to treating these state requests much more seriously.
- Numerous federal agencies — such as the Army Corps of Engineers and other parts of the Defense Department — have not been pressed into service in a serious way, more than eight weeks in. As the Times puts it: “Much of that capacity is untapped.”
- Trump’s apparent decision to put the Department of Health and Human Services in charge of the response might have hampered the role that the Federal Emergency Management Agency should be playing, even though FEMA “traditionally is designed as the lead federal agency during major disasters to take requests from individual states.”
- Several states put in requests for masks, and received far less than requested — and many were beyond their expiration date. As one Democratic governor put it: “We’ve been contacting this administration every single day since then and we have received nothing. Zip. Zero.”


It is becoming obvious that Trump genuinely does not “take any responsibility” for any of this.

When Trump declares that the “Fake News” media narrative about all of this is “disgraceful & false,” this really serves as yet another reminder that Trump is actively prioritizing protecting his reelection prospects over protecting the country.

The basic facts of how we got into this catastrophic mess must be rewritten wholesale. He now claims he took it seriously all along, even though a timeline of his own quotes and actions shows that this is steaming nonsense. And going forward, any media efforts to reconstruct the actual story, or inform the public about it, or impose accountability for it must be entirely discredited.

In short: We are heading into an exceptionally grim set of circumstances, yet the president recognizes zero institutional responsibility to publicly acknowledge his own failures in a way that might enable himself or all of us to learn from them — and thus benefit the country in the immediate term and in the long run.

“He’s likely to be responsible for many deaths,” Max Skidmore, a political science professor and the author of a book on presidential responses to pandemics, told me.

“We are weeks behind where we should have been if a competent administration had been handling the reaction," Skidmore continued. "The misinformation that he spread caused people to be cavalier.”


An unprecedented approach
Yet Skidmore told me that in one distressing sense, Trump’s handling of the pandemic may also be unprecedented. Unlike previous presidents, Trump appears to only care about appearances in a way that is entirely detached from concern about his government’s actual performance.


“We have seen presidents who refused to learn from the past,” Skidmore said. “But one great danger of the Trump presidency is that he’s uninterested in performance as long as he can create the image that he’s been successful. Actual success is irrelevant to him. The image of success is what’s important.”

Skidmore added that even presidents whose failures he has criticized — George W. Bush’s on Hurricane Katrina; Dwight Eisenhower’s on vaccinations; Woodrow Wilson’s on the Spanish flu — didn’t sink to quite this level of unconcern about actual results.

“Even if they twisted the truth, they hoped to have a good outcome,” Skidmore said. By contrast, Trump appears to be wholly “unconcerned about his performance, so long as he can look good.”

In sum, we want presidents to acknowledge their own failures as having actual and momentous consequences for real people, as teachable moments for themselves and the nation — not as nothing more than “fake news” that can be expunged and rewritten through sheer force of bluster or tweet.
Sargent WP

The portion is red is key.
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Wed 18 Mar, 2020 06:13 pm
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In medicine, comorbidity is the presence of one or more additional conditions co-occurring with a primary condition.

Example: Someone with stage 3 or 4 cancer who then also gets the coronavirus COVID-19.

The official death toll from coronavirus in Italy is: 2,503

The Italian Higher Institute of Health shows that the ACTUAL death toll in Italy from COVID-19 if you remove comorbidity is: 2 people.

The link to the Italian government site is in the article.

It seems the government and especially the media do not want people to know this fact. Hmm, why is that?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3825709/posts
blatham
 
  3  
Wed 18 Mar, 2020 06:25 pm
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The Hill
@thehill
· 4h
Sen. John Cornyn: "China is to blame because the culture where people eat bats & snakes & dogs & things like that, these viruses are transmitted from the animal to the people and that's why China has been the source of a lot of these viruses like SARS, like MERS, the Swine Flu."

I mentioned earlier that Swine Flu originated in the US. I've now learned that MERS (Middle East Respiratory Syndrome) originated not in China but in the ME.

But what the ****. Cornyn is delighted to forward the racist framing Trump and Fox are pushing. Anything to distract attention from this catastrophic failure of the Trump administration to protect Americans.

I really really hate these bastards.
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blatham
 
  2  
Wed 18 Mar, 2020 06:27 pm
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Erick Erickson
@EWErickson
· 6h
I do wonder how many of these reporters are getting paid by China. I know Chinese outlets have propped up a lot of American media outlets of late with full-page spreads, etc., but what about the personal cash. I guarantee it is happening.

And I hate this bastard too. As Paul Waldman commented on that tweet
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When I see this kind of conspiratorial lunacy from right-wingers who actually work in media, I can never tell if they're just playing to the rubes or if they really are that stupid.


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blatham
 
  2  
Wed 18 Mar, 2020 06:32 pm
Thank god Paul Gigot and his batshit op/ed staff at WSJ don't do the paper's reporting
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America Needed Coronavirus Tests. The Government Failed.

Decisions that limited testing for the pathogen blinded the U.S. to the outbreak’s scale. Here’s how it happened.
Link
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Wed 18 Mar, 2020 07:11 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:
But more broadly, Netanyahu is one of my least favorite humans. The recording of him bragging that he personally killed the Oslo Accord set me to assassination fantasies.

You've done more to destroy the Oslo Accords than Mr. Netanyahu has.


blatham wrote:
I used to have a strong affinity for Israel and as a young man wanted to go there, join a kibbutz and help out. Now I despise what it has become.

Neonazi is as neonazi does.
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blatham
 
  2  
Wed 18 Mar, 2020 07:40 pm
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Rick Perlstein
@rickperlstein
39m
Trump says he only invoked DPA for "worse case scenario in the future," not anything now. Of course he's not going to turn down an opportunity for a massive new grant of power. Be very afraid. Trump is storing up power for a serious run at democracy itself.

Do NOT discount this warning.
blatham
 
  2  
Wed 18 Mar, 2020 07:54 pm
Holy ****
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Capitol Alert
@CapitolAlert
46m
Unemployment claims surging in CA, from average of 2K a day to 80K,
@GavinNewsom says
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Wed 18 Mar, 2020 08:20 pm
@blatham,
Mr. Trump is leading our government's efforts to save our lives. Progressives want to undermine those efforts.
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Wed 18 Mar, 2020 09:27 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:
It's actually not simple. So keep your eyes peeled and your pitchforks sharp.
https://cdn.creators.com/1054/249387/249387_image.jpg
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Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Thu 19 Mar, 2020 12:41 am
@coldjoint,
And even those two only died because their heart stopped to pump.
roger
 
  3  
Thu 19 Mar, 2020 01:26 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Lotsa people die of that
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Thu 19 Mar, 2020 02:53 am
@roger,
Yes.

But when I read such post, I always think: why are those people dehumanising us, those with underlying health conditions,those older than 60.
Obviously it doesn't matter for some since we are going to die anyway, so what does it matter if Covid-19 takes us now?
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hightor
 
  4  
Thu 19 Mar, 2020 03:09 am
@coldjoint,
Quote:
This pandemic is as good as gone.

Wrong.
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Not that the MSM will tell you that.

Because it's not true.

Chloroquine is a clinical treatment for the disease. It does not halt the spread of the disease, it does not provide immunity from the disease, it is not a vaccine. It is cheap and widely available aid to recovery but it's not accurate to say that this means the pandemic is over.



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