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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
hightor
 
  2  
Wed 18 Mar, 2020 10:56 am
@coldjoint,
Looks like someone's afraid Trump is likely to lose.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Wed 18 Mar, 2020 11:00 am
@RABEL222,
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Where is your office Dr. C J.

I am not prescribing it, I am telling you about it. Are you this confused all the time?
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Wed 18 Mar, 2020 11:01 am
@Brand X,
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Is this an Alex Jones product?

No it is a drug used to treat Malaria. It has been around a long time.
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Wed 18 Mar, 2020 11:04 am
@hightor,
Quote:
Looks like someone's afraid Trump is likely to lose.

Not this someone. When are you people going to get over your double standard? Biden should be tested, there are ample examples that warrant it. It was expected of Trump, why not Joe?
Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Wed 18 Mar, 2020 11:07 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
Science says so. This pandemic is as good as gone. Not that the MSM will tell you that.
Actually, a Chinese official said that (besides coldjoint).

The Chinese official said it five weeks ago. (> XINHUANET

Science - here the American Society for Microbiology - know about it since at least 2008: Antiviral Activity of Chloroquine against Human Coronavirus OC43 Infection in Newborn Mice
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Brand X
 
  2  
Wed 18 Mar, 2020 11:15 am
@coldjoint,
You mean the double standard about showing tax returns?
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Wed 18 Mar, 2020 11:22 am
@Brand X,
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You mean the double standard about showing tax returns?

Nothing to do with taxes. Trump's taxes are not affecting his mental health. I am sure Biden's taxes did not make him senile either.
Brand X
 
  3  
Wed 18 Mar, 2020 11:26 am
@coldjoint,
Even if Biden couldn't pass it he'd still be better than Trump and the even worse Republicans that actually know better but still kiss his feet and obey.
hightor
 
  3  
Wed 18 Mar, 2020 01:54 pm
Trump: UK government condemns president's 'completely false' suggestion Britain invented Russia's 2016 election meddling

US leader's peddling of conspiracy theory met with blunt response by Foreign Office

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Donald Trump’s suggestion that Britain invented Russia’s interference in the 2016 presidential election has been branded “completely false” by the UK government.

The US president shared a tweet by William Craddick, the founder of right-wing conspiracy theory news outlet Disobedience Media, on Sunday evening.

“Russiagate was designed in part to help the UK counter Russian influence by baiting the United States into taking a hard line against them,” Mr Craddick wrote. “Leaves us all with a more dangerous world as a consequence. Just another episode of the great game.”

It is not clear what “Russian influence” in Britain Mr Craddick was referring to, but “great game” is likely a reference to a long-running political and diplomatic confrontation between Russia and Britain in the 19th century.

Mr Trump regularly retweets messages – as he did here – that he agrees with.

A Foreign Office spokesperson told The Independent: “This claim is completely false.”

Mr Trump’s endorsement of the explosive claim Britain was involved in a conspiracy to create “Russiagate” – a term commonly understood to refer to Russia’s meddling in the presidential election – risks further undermining relations between the White House and the UK government.

Late last week, he launched an extraordinary attack against Theresa May over her Brexit negotiation strategy, claiming she “didn’t listen” to his advice over the issue.

Sir Nicholas Soames, Conservative MP and privy councillor, told The Independent that Mr Trump’s peddling of the conspiracy theory was “foolish” and “ludicrous”.

“The trouble is he allows himself to be subject to these great flights of fancy, which unfortunately there are too many people who take seriously,” said Mr Soames, who is the grandson of Winston Churchill.

He added: “He pretty much takes up every conspiracy theory there is, it’s just ludicrous. I don’t think anyone who knows anything about it would take it seriously.”

independent
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blatham
 
  1  
Wed 18 Mar, 2020 02:17 pm
@Setanta,
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I am wondering if he actually has the power as PM to shut down the courts, and how those courts will react.
Yes. I haven't had time today to follow up. Ha'aretz will definitely be addressing this.

But more broadly, Netanyahu is one of my least favorite humans. The recording of him bragging that he personally killed the Oslo Accord set me to assassination fantasies. I used to have a strong affinity for Israel and as a young man wanted to go there, join a kibbutz and help out. Now I despise what it has become.
Setanta
 
  1  
Wed 18 Mar, 2020 02:24 pm
A sidebar of the conservative/Tory whack-jobs we have in this thread. It appears that many of them did not get the memo, and continue to claim the pandemic is "fake news," designed to hurt Trump's image.

Believe me, boys and girls, Trump needs no help trashing his own image.
blatham
 
  2  
Wed 18 Mar, 2020 02:24 pm
@Sturgis,
Yes. Wherever Murdoch goes, he turns things to ****. No single individual has been more responsible for the degradation of political and civil rhetoric in the US, Britain and Australia than him. How evil is this guy? Compare the vast levels of cultural corruption and degradation he's has brought about to Jeffrey Dahlmer or Charles Manson. They were pikers compared to Rupert.
coldjoint
 
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Wed 18 Mar, 2020 02:27 pm
@Brand X,
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Even if Biden couldn't pass it he'd still be better than Trump

Not even close. Biden is senile.
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Wed 18 Mar, 2020 02:32 pm
@Setanta,
Quote:
continue to claim the pandemic is "fake news," designed to hurt Trump's image.

No one said it was fake news just exaggerated. Now is it being used to hurt him? It sure is. Why deny the obvious? Conflating Trump with the virus is the object.
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blatham
 
  3  
Wed 18 Mar, 2020 02:34 pm
@revelette3,
Good for Stevens. That is right on the money! He doesn't go into how this came about and the individuals involved but that's beyond the capacity for a column like this. For those interested in this big story, turn to Rick Perstein's books or for a fine primer (if you haven't read it) Tentacles or Rage. This really is critically important historical knowledge because it helps arm you for understanding the present and, I think, to combat the bad guys.
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Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Wed 18 Mar, 2020 02:35 pm
@blatham,

Irish planners reject Trump golf resort's plan to build wall
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The climate crisis just became more personal for Donald Trump, after authorities in Ireland rejected an attempt by his Doonbeg golf resort to build a wall to combat rising sea levels.

The planning agency An Bord Pleanála said on Wednesday that the proposed 38,000-tonne rock barrier at Doughmore Bay could damage dunes that straddle the golf course in County Clare, on the Atlantic coast.

Trump International Golf Links Ireland Enterprises Limited, which is owned by the US president’s family, wanted to build barriers to protect fairways from exceptionally heavy storms and rising sea levels – evidence of a changing climate.

In 2017 Clare county council approved a plan for two barriers of 630 metres and 260 metres in length after rejecting plans for a much larger 28km (17-mile) wall.

But An Bord Pleanála has overruled the scaled-down proposal, putting a question mark over the resort’s long-term future.

“The board is not satisfied that the proposed development would not result in adverse effects on the physical structure, functionality and sediment supply of dune habitat within the Carrowmore Dunes special area of conservation,” it said.
[...]
Trump has often spoken of his love of the resort – and has not hidden his frustration at planning constraints. When environmental objections blocked a previous attempt to build new facilities he called it “a very unpleasant experience”.
blatham
 
  2  
Wed 18 Mar, 2020 02:40 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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The climate crisis just became more personal for Donald Trump, after authorities in Ireland rejected an attempt by his Doonbeg golf resort to build a wall to combat rising sea levels.
Har dee har har. I suppose we can expect Trump to start tweeting about the Irish and how they can't do anything right because they're always drunk.
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blatham
 
  2  
Wed 18 Mar, 2020 02:51 pm
Ed Kilgore addresses the question, "What if Trump tried to cancel the November election?"

It's actually not simple. So keep your eyes peeled and your pitchforks sharp.
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Ohio governor Mike DeWine has been getting a lot of well-deserved attaboys for his aggressive response to the COVID-19 pandemic, taking many steps that other state and local officials were slow to emulate. But in effectively stopping his state’s presidential primary without having the authority to cancel it, he set a precedent that raises some troubling questions about what less responsible elected officials might do in the near future. As Ian Millhiser explains, on the very eve of the scheduled March 17 primary, Ohio’s courts had to deal with a direct conflict between laws mandating an election and laws giving public-health officials the power to protect the safety of poll workers and voters:

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The Ohio Supreme Court’s decision in Speweik v. Wood County Board of Elections, which effectively allowed the state’s top health official to delay Tuesday’s primary election, is a confusing decision. It’s made all the more confusing by the fact that the state supreme court did not explain its decision in the two-sentence order it handed down early Tuesday morning.

The upshot of Speweik, however, is that an order by state Director of Health Dr. Amy Acton, which ordered polls closed in the primary election that was originally scheduled for Tuesday, has taken effect. Ohio’s primary is suspended until June 2, 2020 — and it’s possible that it could be delayed again if the coronavirus pandemic continues to rage in June.

Speweik arises out of the tension between two state laws, one of which unequivocally states that the primary election “shall be held on the third Tuesday after the first Monday in March.” The other law, meanwhile, gives the department of health broad powers over “quarantine and isolation.”

Millhiser figures courts are like to defer to public-health officials at every level of government during a pandemic, just as federal courts have typically deferred to national security judgments made by presidents:

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American election law was not written with a pandemic in mind. Extraordinary measures may be necessary to control the spread of coronavirus for many months — possibly continuing well into the November election season. And if those extraordinary measures do disrupt the general elections, courts are likely to defer to public health officials even if those officials act with partisan motivation.


So what if the public official in question possesses both public health and national security powers? What if we are talking about Donald J. Trump?

Ohio’s own Senator Sherrod Brown wondered about that, as the Columbus Dispatch reported:

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“My concern is that in the age of Trump that other governors might think, or that the president might ask, for a delay in the November election based on something, perhaps this, perhaps something else,” Brown said during a conference call with reporters on Wednesday.

“We can’t let this be a precedent.”


The Los Angeles Times’s Evan Halper takes up the unsettling question of what would and would not happen if the pandemic is still raging this fall and Trump decides it’s no time for an election. To make one thing clear, Trump cannot just cancel a constitutionally mandated general election:

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The president does not have that power. Legal scholars are widely in agreement on this point, as are both Republican and Democratic election officials. The nonpartisan Congressional Research Service reached the same conclusion when it investigated the question in the aftermath of 9/11.

Under the U.S. Constitution, Trump and Vice President Mike Pence cannot stay in office past their four-year terms without being reelected. If the election does not happen for any reason, constitutional rules of succession kick in.


Technically, says Halper, Congress could delay the election for a bit in the case of an emergency, but when the president and vice-president’s terms run out on January 20, 2021, they are out of office, period. And in that case, it seems, the next-in-the-line-of-succession official who is still in office would be empowered to occupy the Oval Office.

If, of course, there’s no general election in November, Trump and Pence aren’t the only elected officials out of a job, so crazy things could happen. While the Speaker of the House is third in the line of presidential succession, Nancy Pelosi is also up for reelection this year and so would face the same scenario as Trump and Pence if the election were to be canceled. The next in the line of succession who does not face voters in November is Chuck Grassley, the Senate’s president pro tempore. But then again, 23 Republican senators are up for reelection this year and would be on the sidelines as well, so we could have a Democratic Senate and perhaps a president pro tempore Pat Leahy (that position traditionally goes to the oldest senator of the majority party).

An additional complication, of course, is that states ultimately control whether to hold federal elections, just as the Ohio legislature had the power to determine whether that state’s primary would be canceled — a power made essentially meaningless by the governor’s ban on opening polling places. In the case of a presidential election, state legislatures could in theory appoint electors according to the outcome of whatever election the state managed to hold, or even in lieu of an election, says election-law expert Rick Hasen:

So in that extreme contingency, it could all wind up in the federal courts, and we saw how that worked out in 2000.

It would be very prudent for states (possibly with some encouragement and money from the Feds via Senator Ron Wyden’s bill) to move rapidly toward universal voting-by-mail opportunities. Otherwise we could experience a botched election and then a constitutional crisis, given our current national management.
coldjoint
 
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Wed 18 Mar, 2020 03:52 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
It's actually not simple. So keep your eyes peeled and your pitchforks sharp.

Are you suggesting a violent reaction? Sounds like it.
snood
 
  1  
Wed 18 Mar, 2020 04:00 pm
@coldjoint,
What would you consider an appropriate response to a situation in which a defeated democratic president simply refused to give up his office?
 

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