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blatham
 
  2  
Sun 15 Mar, 2020 05:42 am
Quote:
Trump Supporters Know Where to Turn in a Crisis: To Him

They’re confident, for perhaps the first time in his presidency, that the experts on call aren’t out to sabotage the president.

...“I feel like sometimes the decisions he makes are for his voters, and now it’s about what’s best for the American people,” Ms. Aistrop said. “I think he’s really looking to our government agencies to take the lead on this, he’s listening to them on what to do, and his No. 1 goal is to keep us safe.”
NYT

Yikes.
snood
 
  2  
Sun 15 Mar, 2020 05:49 am
@blatham,
Quote:
“I think he’s really looking to our government agencies to take the lead on this, he’s listening to them on what to do, and his No. 1 goal is to keep us safe.”


You gotta remember: A lot of these same people also believe he’s “sent from God”.
izzythepush
 
  2  
Sun 15 Mar, 2020 06:16 am
Quote:
Three service personnel from the US-led coalition in Iraq and two Iraqis have been injured in a rocket attack on a military base north of Baghdad, the coalition has said.

The Iraqi military said more than 30 rockets were fired at Camp Taji base.

This is the second attack this week on the base. On Wednesday, rockets killed two American troops and one British soldier there.

The US responded with air strikes targeting an Iranian-backed militia.

However, Iraqi officials say that Iraqi soldiers and policemen were killed in the strikes.

The Iraqi military says the latest attack on Taji must not be used by the US as a pretext for any action without Iraq's approval.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-51890492?intlink_from_url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world/us_and_canada&link_location=live-reporting-story
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Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Sun 15 Mar, 2020 08:06 am
@snood,
Reality is optional when in doubt, but usually annoying.

But this phase will come to a brutal end. It is easy to say untruth with impunity about things that are far away (Sweden) or in the distant future (the climate crisis) in the eyes of your voters. But when your neighbours, friends and relatives start to fall seriously ill or die, this contradiction cannot be resolved or pushed away by an extra dose of Fox News. (Hardcore conspiracy theorists perhaps excepted, because as usual they will find other explanations in which Trump is both hero and victim.)

Trump contributed most to the escalation with his usual reflexes: shutting things down ("It'll go away again, just stay calm, it'll go away again"), putting the blame on others ("foreign virus"), prohibiting entry from Europe (but not for Americans and travellers from countries where Trump owns golf courses), praising himself, creating confusion.
Brand X
 
  2  
Sun 15 Mar, 2020 08:27 am
jeremy scahill
@jeremyscahill
“But how will we pay for it?” was always a fool’s question. Just look at the Wall Street bailout. The scorn heaped on those demanding an urgent change in our priorities with questions of money and budgets should be etched in history as a collective badge of shame.
9:12 AM · Mar 15, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
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Bet-Z
@Bustronaut
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1h
Replying to
@jeremyscahill
and
@Doubting_Tom
That $1.5 trillion would've gone a long way to pay everyone to stay at home for two+ weeks. (About $4k per capita)
Ray Ciaf
@nbex9
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2m
Replying to
@jeremyscahill
The biggest lie is convincing people there’s a shortage of wealth.
Bucky Beaver
@bucky_beavr
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1h
Replying to
@jeremyscahill
and
@ryangrim
Ok but how will we pay for a badge of shame that gigantic?
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Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Sun 15 Mar, 2020 08:38 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
According to a media report, a diplomatic dispute over a vaccine is looming between Germany and the USA.

Meanwhile, the report has been confirmed - a spokeswoman for the German Federal Health Ministry said: "We confirm the report in the Welt am Sonntag."

Karl Lauterbach, a professor of health economics and epidemiology who is also a senior lawmaker with the Social Democrats, junior partner in the federal coalition government, tweeted in reaction to the Welt am Sonntag report: "The exclusive sale of a possible vaccine to the USA must be prevented by all means. Capitalism has limits."
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sun 15 Mar, 2020 10:26 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
But when your neighbours, friends and relatives start to fall seriously ill or die.

When is that going to happen? When it does not will Trump get any credit? It should work both ways. So every friend and relative that survives will be due to Trump following the logic here.
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Sun 15 Mar, 2020 10:43 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
On Sunday, however, the head of CureVac's biggest investor said that an exclusive contract with the US was out of the question.

"We want to develop a vaccine for the whole world and not individual countries," the chief executive of dievini Hopp Bio Tech Holding, Christof Hettich, told the Mannheimer Morgen newspaper

The company hopes to have an experimental vaccine developed by June or July, and then to get approval for testing on people. The research into several possible vaccines had begun and the two most promising would be chosen for clinical tests, CureVac co-founder and chief production officer Florian von der Mülbe told Reuters on Friday.
[...]
On March 2, CureVac's then-CEO Daniel Menichella attended a meeting at the White House to discuss coronavirus vaccine development with Trump and members of his coronavirus taskforce.

On March 11, the company announced Menichella would be replaced by company founder Ingmar Hoerr, without giving a reason why.
DW


According to the report in the Mannheimer Morgen there was no connection between the Corona talks with the USA and the change in the board of directors, said Christof Hettich when asked. Hoerr was already CEO of Curevac AG until May 2018 and moved to the supervisory board. Upon request, Hettich did not mention the reason for this spontaneous and unusual return.
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Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Sun 15 Mar, 2020 10:45 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Quote:
But when your neighbours, friends and relatives start to fall seriously ill or die.
When is that going to happen?


I have no idea when it will happen at yours. (It happened already at my Austrian in-laws.)
Lash
 
  1  
Sun 15 Mar, 2020 10:49 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

Walter Hinteler wrote:
According to a media report, a diplomatic dispute over a vaccine is looming between Germany and the USA.

Meanwhile, the report has been confirmed - a spokeswoman for the German Federal Health Ministry said: "We confirm the report in the Welt am Sonntag."

Karl Lauterbach, a professor of health economics and epidemiology who is also a senior lawmaker with the Social Democrats, junior partner in the federal coalition government, tweeted in reaction to the Welt am Sonntag report: "The exclusive sale of a possible vaccine to the USA must be prevented by all means. Capitalism has limits."

Who could even imagine this idea is possible?
coldjoint
 
  0  
Sun 15 Mar, 2020 10:50 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
I have no idea when it will happen at yours.

Then why say when it happens? You have no idea who will get sick and Trump is not causing the illness, a virus is.
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Brand X
 
  1  
Sun 15 Mar, 2020 11:22 am
Georgia will now hold its presidential primary on May 19 instead of March 24.
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Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Sun 15 Mar, 2020 11:31 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
Who could even imagine this idea is possible?
To what idea are you referring?

If you mean that of Trump - okay.

If you refer to Lauterbach:
- Social Democracy continues the tradition of the democratic popular movements of the nineteenth century and therefore wants both: democracy and socialism, self-determination of the people in politics and the world of work. (Berlin Program of the SPD, 1989)
- Our history is shaped by the idea of democratic socialism, a society of free and equal, in which our basic values are realized. It demands an order of economy, state and society in which the basic civil, political, social and economic rights are guaranteed for all people, in which all people can live a life without exploitation, oppression and violence, in other words in social and human security. The end of Soviet-style state socialism did not refute the idea of democratic socialism, but impressively confirmed the orientation of social democracy towards fundamental values. For us, democratic socialism remains the vision of a free, just and solidary society, the realisation of which is an ongoing task for us. The principle of our actions is social democracy (Hamburg Program, 2007)


(Actually, I had voted for Lauterbach [and his party's co-chair] in the 2019 SPD leadership election.)
livinglava
 
  1  
Sun 15 Mar, 2020 11:56 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

Walter Hinteler wrote:

Walter Hinteler wrote:
According to a media report, a diplomatic dispute over a vaccine is looming between Germany and the USA.

Meanwhile, the report has been confirmed - a spokeswoman for the German Federal Health Ministry said: "We confirm the report in the Welt am Sonntag."

Karl Lauterbach, a professor of health economics and epidemiology who is also a senior lawmaker with the Social Democrats, junior partner in the federal coalition government, tweeted in reaction to the Welt am Sonntag report: "The exclusive sale of a possible vaccine to the USA must be prevented by all means. Capitalism has limits."

Who could even imagine this idea is possible?

If capitalism should be limited to preventing exclusive sales of vaccines, does that mean the seller should be limited against excluding buyers who don't pay?

What about price-gauging? Is that within 'the limits of capitalism?'

Who gets to decide what's a fair price and how?
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Brand X
 
  1  
Sun 15 Mar, 2020 12:35 pm
Michael Tracey
@mtracey
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39m
Another plea to conservatives. I'm not asking you to listen to me. I'm asking you to listen to Ted Cruz. Please tell your parents and grandparents this is not a conspiracy against Trump. You don't have to cite any left-wing TDS media. You can cite conservatives who support Trump

Ted Cruz
@tedcruz
·
19h
Good advice — not just for NYC, but everywhere.

If you can stay home, stay home.

And wash your hands.
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Brand X
 
  1  
Sun 15 Mar, 2020 12:50 pm
Fritz Hahn
@fritzhahn
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56m
New rules just down from D.C. gov:

* All nightclubs closed
* Suspending all bar seating
* Suspending service to standing patrons
* Tables and booths must be 6 feet apart and occupied by 6 people or fewer
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sun 15 Mar, 2020 01:07 pm
Quote:
We’re Paying The Price For The Death Of Journalism

Quote:
This cheerleading is fine if the story is about politics, but this isn’t about politics, this is about life and death. Coronavirus is a serious threat, but only to a very small segment of the population. Hyping or downplaying it is profoundly unhelpful when honesty is needed. But there isn’t anyone trusted across the board in media to convey truthful information.

So you get manufactured panic and runs on toilet paper; supermarkets have empty shelves and fights break out over a lack of basics.



Media Democrats hype death totals without providing important perspective, perpetuating panic because it’s good for ratings and their party. More people are in danger from the panic being incited by pundits, politicians, and journalists than they are from coronavirus. You’d never know that if you turned on your TV.

But ask yourself an important question: if coronavirus is the threat they portray it as, why are liberals engaging in an argument over semantics?

If lives are at risk, why has every major left-wing news outlet wasted crucial time focusing on how they’ve declared calling it the “Chinese coronavirus” or the “Wuhan virus” to be racist and a threat to social order? Especially after they’d spent weeks calling it those very things, only declaring it problematic after a couple of Republicans followed their lead and called it the same thing.

https://townhall.com/columnists/derekhunter/2020/03/15/were-paying-the-price-for-the-death-of-journalism-n2564967?utm_source=thdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl&newsletterad=03/15/2020&bcid=9d7d8fe1db1a2fb40e1250fec29a9d7d&recip=20314017
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Lash
 
  1  
Sun 15 Mar, 2020 01:10 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
It’s outrageous that this medicine could be withheld for maximum profit,...but then this coronavirus problem points immediately to the present day to day perverted system in the USA.
Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Sun 15 Mar, 2020 01:30 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
It’s outrageous that this medicine could be withheld for maximum profit,...but then this coronavirus problem points immediately to the present day to day perverted system in the USA.
It is an ethical, not economic or even national issue. If there is a vaccine, it must be available to everyone. Anything else would be a scandal.

In principle, if the conditions are met and there is a threat to public order and security, the (German) Federal Ministry of Economy may prohibit the acquisition of companies or issue appropriate orders.
However, I don't think it is yet possible to say whether these conditions have been met at the pharmaceutical company Curevac.
hightor
 
  3  
Sun 15 Mar, 2020 01:32 pm
Trump Administration Is Relaxing Oversight of Nursing Homes

A proposal would loosen federal rules meant to control infections, just as the coronavirus rips through nursing homes.
 

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