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coldjoint
 
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Mon 9 Mar, 2020 01:16 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
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the most powerful man in the world?

There is no question. Trump is the most powerful man in the world. And will be for another four years. Germany and its opinions will not change that, and either will you.
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oralloy
 
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Mon 9 Mar, 2020 01:20 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
Branco is a nome de zeitung

https://comicallyincorrect.com/about-a-f-branco/

https://www.creators.com/author/a.f.-branco
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oralloy
 
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Mon 9 Mar, 2020 01:26 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:
And another related matter. We all recall how insane right wing media and politicos became when Obama rescued the auto industry. Already now, monies the administration has spent on US farmers is double what was spent for Detroit. And of course not a ******* peep from the right.

Obama murdered Pontiac. That was perhaps his greatest crime against America.
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oralloy
 
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Mon 9 Mar, 2020 01:27 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:
@realDonaldTrump wrote:
Do Nothing Democrats were busy wasting their time on the Impeachment Hoax, & anything they could do to make the Republican Party look bad, while I was busy calling early boarder & flight closings, putting us way ahead in our battle with the Coronavirus. Dems called it very wrong!

Border closings? Border closings? Boarder closing? Does someone - anyone - know of any border closings? And flight closings? What?

Seriously, does this guy think his base is this stupid? Is his base this stupid? What the **** is going on with this man?

The fact that you do not remember recent history is not a sign that Trump's base is stupid.

It may however say something about you.

https://dailytorch.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/01-Corona-Plan-DT-990.jpg
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blatham
 
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Mon 9 Mar, 2020 01:35 pm
The trolls have gone into hyperdrive.
oralloy
 
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Mon 9 Mar, 2020 01:43 pm
@blatham,
Posting facts that you dislike isn't trolling.
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blatham
 
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Mon 9 Mar, 2020 01:45 pm
Just see now that Trump, in Florida this morning, has done a photo op where he's shaking supporters' hands. For Fox dissemination particularly, of course.

This is criminally irresponsible.
engineer
 
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Mon 9 Mar, 2020 01:47 pm
@blatham,
Shaking hands is criminally irresponsible?
coldjoint
 
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Mon 9 Mar, 2020 01:47 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
The trolls have gone into hyperdrive.

Yes you have.
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blatham
 
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Mon 9 Mar, 2020 01:57 pm
@engineer,
Now it is. This is a continuation of his attempt to downplay covid (and to forward the notion that it's dangers are a Dem/media hoax).

As you understand, there will be many, many deaths as a direct consequence of this disinformation.

Edit: Fox will push video of Trump shaking hands. This, if covered at all, will be nearly invisible there and/or mis-attributed as to cause
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President Trump’s campaign on Monday called off a “Women for Trump” bus tour featuring his daughter-in-law and other top election surrogates amid ongoing concerns about the coronavirus, two people close to the campaign said, even as the president sought to play down the threat of the outbreak.

The three-day bus tour through the key battleground states of Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania was supposed to begin on Monday, featuring Lara Trump, the wife of the president’s son Eric Trump; Kayleigh McEnany, a campaign spokeswoman; and Mercedes Schlapp, a former White House adviser whose husband oversees the Conservative Political Action Conference where an attendee has tested positive for the virus.
NYT
coldjoint
 
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Mon 9 Mar, 2020 01:59 pm
@blatham,
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As you understand, there will be many, many deaths as a direct consequence of this disinformation.

Any deaths will come from the disease, not disinformation, which comes from you most of the time anyway.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 9 Mar, 2020 02:03 pm
@blatham,
You won’t be able to have both a healthy public and a healthy economy at this moment. You’ll have to choose. Obviously Trump did already.
Baldimo
 
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Mon 9 Mar, 2020 02:06 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
He picked a healthy public as can be seen by what he has already told the US govt to do. Blocked flights from highly infected countries and has been working with the private and public sector in working on testing as well as a vaccine.
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coldjoint
 
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Mon 9 Mar, 2020 02:15 pm
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CDC: 20,000 Deaths This Season From Flu

Perspective is everything.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/cdc-20000-deaths-this-season-from-flu/
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blatham
 
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Mon 9 Mar, 2020 02:29 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Yes. But he won't end up getting even that. And the recovery period will be far longer.
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blatham
 
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Mon 9 Mar, 2020 02:37 pm
Quote:
Put President Trump in a room full of scientists, and he’s going to start to feel very insecure. Put him in a crisis he can’t boast his way out of, and things are going to go very badly.

That’s what we now face with the coronavirus. The crisis is not happening only in a foreign country, or in just one spot in America. It threatens to touch all of us. By all accounts, the president’s handling of it so far has been somewhere between awful and disastrous. Worst of all, from his perspective, it threatens the reality distortion field he works so hard to maintain.

Trump is plainly more concerned with how the virus affects his public image than how it affects Americans’ health. He blurted out that he wanted to keep a cruise ship off the coast of California “because I like the numbers being where they are. I don’t need to have the numbers double because of one ship.”

He’s feeling doubly besieged right about now. And all his worst instincts are coming out.

Let me draw your attention to a revealing moment during Trump’s appearance on Friday at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Amid comments that were as filled with falsehoods and non sequiturs as you’d expect, Trump said this:
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And, by the way, NIH, what they’ve done — I spent time over there — and I like this stuff.
You know, my uncle was a great person. He was at MIT. He taught at MIT for, I think, like a record number of years. He was a great super genius. Dr. John Trump.
I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it. Every one of these doctors said, “How do you know so much about this?” Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for President.
But you know what? What they’ve done is very incredible. I understand that whole world. I love that world. I really do. I love that world.

We’ve heard this kind of thing before — Trump often boasts that he knows more about a particular subject than the experts do. But the tell is his invocation of his uncle, who was a physicist at MIT. What does that have to do with public health, or viruses, or anything else? In literal terms, absolutely nothing, which is what makes it so jarring. But when Trump feels the need to remind you that he is related to a smart person, it’s pretty obvious that he’s afraid people might not think he’s smart enough.

And while I suppose it’s theoretically possible that all the doctors at the CDC marveled at his deep knowledge about viruses and pandemics, the story seems … unlikely.

We know that Trump has a contempt for expertise, and a belief that people with advanced degrees and deep subject-area knowledge should be scorned and ridiculed. But a crisis like this one is different from some of the other policy challenges he has faced, in which he could convince himself that with his own unique gifts he could do better than the people who actually know what they’re talking about.

For instance, Trump could say to those in the government whose job it is to understand North Korea, “I don’t need you eggheads, I’m the world’s greatest negotiator. Just get me in a room with Kim Jong Un and we’ll make a deal.” It turned out he couldn’t, but to him it made sense at the time.

You can’t do that with a public health crisis. Trump can’t say, “Forget you guys, I’ll make the vaccine myself, and it’ll be the greatest vaccine ever.” Even he can see that won’t work.

That puts him in a precarious place, and from what we can tell, the people around him are even more sensitive than usual about the need to massage Trump’s ego. Whenever one of his political appointees talks to the press about the coronavirus, they’re careful to praise Trump profusely. On Sunday, Surgeon General Jerome Adams went on CNN and declared that “the president, he sleeps less than I do, and he’s healthier than what I am.”

It’s hard to imagine the force of will it takes for an actual doctor to say that about a 73-year-old man who never exercises and who wouldn’t eat a vegetable if you coated it in gold leaf.

It’s understandable that the president is concerned about how this crisis could affect his political fortunes. But according to reports, he is so consumed with his own image and reelection that the public relations aspect is about all he’s managing.

As Politico reports.
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Trump’s unpredictable demands and attention to public statements — and his own susceptibility to flattery — have created an administration where top officials feel constantly at siege, worried that the next presidential tweet will decide their professional future, and panicked that they need to regularly impress him.

And as NBC News reports.
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White House officials are growing increasingly frustrated at what they see as President Donald Trump’s consistent bids to downplay the severity of the coronavirus outbreak.


If the situation worsens, these tensions will only be exacerbated as Trump’s insecurity and political worries grow. The worse it gets, the more he’ll be criticized, and the more he’s criticized, the angrier and more erratic he becomes. But there’s only so long he can impose his view of reality on those around him.

Trump can keep saying that everything is fine, and Fox News can echo that view to convince people the coronavirus is no big deal. But if your local schools are shut down, people are walking around your supermarket in surgical masks and the rest of the media is filled wall-to-wall with anxiety-provoking stories about the crisis, it becomes impossible to believe what Trump and his allies are saying.

Our best hope is that the professionals in government are able to assemble a response that contains the virus and minimizes the damage it does to public health and the economy. But if they do that successfully, it will be despite Trump’s mismanagement.
WP
Builder
 
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Mon 9 Mar, 2020 02:57 pm
@engineer,
Quote:
Shaking hands is criminally irresponsible?


In the minds of these desperado never-trumpers,

just being a Republican is irresponsible.
blatham
 
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Mon 9 Mar, 2020 02:58 pm
Dow plunges more than 2,000 points as bear market nears

We have no clear idea of what the world will look like one month up the road.
Sturgis
 
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Mon 9 Mar, 2020 03:06 pm
@blatham,
So far it seems more peaceful. They streets are less crowded. Lines in stores are shorter...

Between Covid-19 and a rapidly tanking market, things are looking rosier...


And here in NY the governor has announced that to protect ourselves, we can purchase hand sanitizer being made by prisoners.
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oralloy
 
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Mon 9 Mar, 2020 03:08 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
Put President Trump in a room full of scientists, and he's going to start to feel very insecure. Put him in a crisis he can't boast his way out of, and things are going to go very badly.

So in other words, sort of like you are when you can't bluff your way through a conversation by saying "I think what that guy over there thinks".
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